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Old 02-23-2003, 06:07 AM   #1
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Does this group discuss the psychiatric implications of "deficient" diets ?
If there are any experts out there, I'd appreciate advice.
I recently started working with 16-18 yr olds suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, and notice a tendency towards poor diet in this group.
In particular, one young man I work closely with has a routine daily diet consisting of:
2 or 3 white bread + honey sandwiches
2 or 3 glasses semi-skimmed milk
ocassional banana / yoghurt
frequent chocolate bars and crisps (potato chips)
1 daily multi-vit+ 1 cod liver oil cap.

He is of slim/normal build, has terrible trouble awakening in the morning, and very contra-suggestive and challenging behaviour. At times he can be physically vigorous (sport etc)

I can't see how he can *fail* to be suffering significant dietary deficiencies (with possible mental side-effects??), but I'm a virtual amateur in this field.

Any advice or pointers would be appreciated.

Regards

Glenn Baron



 
Old 02-23-2003, 07:36 AM   #2
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Glenn,

Diet and allergy is a major problem with people with Aspergers/Autism/ADHD. There is alot of information available on the internet in regards to this. I have worked very closely with an allergist and nutristionalist. It has helped my son greatly. He was on a very strict diet for approximately 1 year and half. He had alot of allergies and those allergens were eliminated from his diet. This was VERY difficult but got easier as we went along. I am very happy to report that my son (as of approximately 1 month ago) has no allergies. He takes several different vitamins and minerals with the help of a nutritionalist. I am also happy to report to you he is eating more foods than he ever did before. Alot of time the very foods people crave are the foods they are allergic to. Hope this helps you some.

Rachel

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Old 02-24-2003, 07:49 AM   #3
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Rachel,
Please tell me how old is your son and how severe is his Aspergers? I have a 6 yr old on medication with Aspergers and ADHD and am interested in learning about the allergies and diets that you mentioned. Nothing like that has ever been told to me by any of his 5 doctors!
Jackie

 
Old 02-24-2003, 10:02 AM   #4
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Jackie,

My son is also 6 years old. He has been diagnosed with PDD. No doctor directed me in testing for allergies and/or nutritional deficits. I researched on my own and found this to be the most logical path to follow. It has proved (at least in my case) to be the right path.

I would also like to add that I just went to a seminar which was lead by a DAN doctor by the name of Mary Ann Block ( she has been on the Montel Williams show). She pretty much confirmed that the path I have chosen was the reason for my sons progress and I totally agree. My son is also in speech, OT and in Behavioral Therapy (ABA) privately as well as in the public school system. He is doing very well and I'm very proud of him.

One book that I read that lead me to allergy testing was "Is This Your Child?" by Doris Rapp. Very interesting information in this book. Many symptoms of an allergic reaction can look very similar to ADHD/ADD or even PDD. Some children can write their name, be just as calm as can be before an injection of an allergen and then turn into a different child (ie. not be able to concentrate, sit still or even write their name). After giving them another injection to neutralize the first injection they were able to concentrate, sit still and write his name. It is amazing. Dr Block showed us a tape of a child after the first injection (not being able to concetrate)and then asked us what we thought was wrong with him. We all said ADD or ADHD. She then proceeded with the tape and showed us the child getting his second injection to neutralize the first and he calmed down within minutes. She then asked us if we still thought it was ADD or ADHD. There was total silence.

Educate yourself in these areas so that you might be able to choose the right path for your son.

Good luck to you!!!

Rachel

 
Old 03-06-2003, 09:14 AM   #5
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Rachel:

I saw that you live in Grand Prairie. I live in Wylie and we are in the process of adopting a 3 year old little boy who is (not yet formally diagnosed) PDD. I've heard lots about diet, allergies, etc. So far, everyone I've asked about it (doctor, psychologist, case worker) has discounted the use of it. They say that it's not proven and that it's usually more difficult to implement that it's worth. Can you help?

 
Old 03-06-2003, 03:27 PM   #6
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Hello amheartfield,

Yes, I would be happy to help. I heard all the same responses from doctors, caseworkers and others too. If I would of listen to them my son would not be where he is today. I just had him retested for speech to see how far he has come in the last year and half and he is just under the normal range by 6 points (up from a severe speech problem). I am so very happy and excited to officially hear that all the therapies are paying off for him. It is true that it is difficult to implement alot of these different diets and vitamin therapies to help with allergies and/or intestinal problems but I can say from experience that it gets alot easier as time goe's by and as for the results....every child is different but I am glad I have choosen this path and I am very pleased with the results so far. Let me know how I can help.

Rachel

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Old 04-08-2003, 12:29 AM   #7
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I work with a 10 year old boy with asperger's in india....we do not have the luxury of a nuritionist who is familiar with suc conditions and about diets that can suit them.....this boy is very big for his age, kind of overweight, loves eating fried food stuff, chocolates etc. of late he has developed a lot of behaviour that have been hard to handle and find a reason for.....could any of u suggest a diet that would help him? can u suggest something which the mother can try or do at home.....he has been sceraming and crying fr no apparent reason(not apparent to us...), eating paper, getting aggressive with younger children, obsessive talking about certain people, etc. he was going to a mainstream school, but now we are in a dilemma as to what school set-up t put himin....he is verbal, but is unable to tell us how he feels.....we really do not know what is botherin him....the psychiatrist feels he is undergoing depression an has put him on drugs.....is this the right choice? i would like suggestions from all u specialists as i wud like to do the best for this boy with the limited resources that we have. can u help me?

 
Old 04-08-2003, 12:11 PM   #8
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Rachel:

Thanks for your reply. I've been out of town and then had computer problems and am just now getting back with you! I'm glad to know there's someone near me who might be able to help us get started on this diet as well as share some similar experiences.

What is the best way to get in touch with you?

Mary

 
Old 04-10-2003, 05:57 AM   #9
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Rachel, what sort of things did you find your son was a llergic to? My boy is 6 also and only eats maybe nine or ten different things. He likes good things like beans and corn and carrots, will eat potatoes and mac n cheese, chicken ham and fish. That's about it.

 
Old 04-11-2003, 06:19 PM   #10
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Chippie,


He was allergic to milk, corn, tuna, peanuts, carrots and the cat. These were the major allergic reactions.
He also came back allergic to chicken, wheat, dust and a few others (minor reactions) that I cannot remember off the top of my head. At the time we were also doing the gf/cf diet which made eliminating the corn extremly difficult. But we did it for a year and a half and the results was that he no longer has allergies. He is eating more and more foods all the time. He will at least try new things now. He seems to be healthier. He has gained a little weight now and is in the average range for is weight and height now. We still work with a nutritionalist and he still takes vitamins & minerals. We periodically do Urine Organix Profiles on him to check different levels of vitamins, bacteria and other markers and then follow up with the nutritionalist for recommendations. This has worked very well for him.

I would also like to add that sometimes the foods that we crave the most are the very food that we are allergic to. This really seems to be the case with my son. It almost seems that our bodies start to think that these foods are allergens and start to fight against them. By eliminating them...it give the body time to heal. I know my sons allergist told me that our cells have memory in them (as strange as it seems) and it takes time for that memory to disappear and the body to stop acting as if these foods are allergens. I would suggest visiting an allergist if your concerned about allergies. Hope this helps some.

Rachel

 
Old 04-11-2003, 06:24 PM   #11
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amheartfield,

I'm not sure how we can contact each other outside of the board. I know we are not allowed to post email addresses, telephone numbers or personal information on the board (they can ban you from posting). If you have any ideas let me know. I would love to talk with you anytime.

Rachel

 
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