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Old 04-22-2005, 07:52 AM   #1
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Question HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

I am confused by this terminology and wonder what is the difference? I have read alot of the posts here and alot of the people are speaking in terms of 1st and 2cd level autism, Where does this come from? Is this something your doctor is saying to you or what? I am from Canada and our dev. ped will not even touch "different levels" of autism, He just labels everyone as autistic so that they can receive the funding they need to get help. If anyone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate that.

 
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:52 AM   #2
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Re: HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

Hey dbljmama,
I am from Canada as well. I haven't received a diagnosis yet, but I am attending a speech class for parents. They explained some things...they say that there is a spectrum for kids who have unusual development - this spectrum is supposed to be called Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) but most people still refer to it as Pervasive Development Disorder (PDD). On the left side or severe side of the spectrum is Autism and on the Right side or mild side is Aspergers and PDDNOS (not otherwise specified). There are some other categories on the spectrum but I can't remember them. IF this information is not accurate I am sorry, but this is what I understand so far. I have also heard that some doctors will not give you a specific diagnosis of where your child is on the spectrum and will just say PDD stating that your child is on the spectrum. Sometimes they do this because your child is so young and/or it is hard to pinpoint an exact diagnosis.

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Old 04-22-2005, 09:13 AM   #3
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Re: HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

I hope this isn't a stupid question but are there children who right in the middle of the spectrum. Our therapist, of course, views typical autistic children as those with banging heads, major stimming, hates to be touched and then 'mild' autism as children with awesome vocabulary. She doesn't think it is possible to have autistic children in the middle of the spectrum. Children with major speech delay, some stimming, total sensory overloads, and anti-social, but likes to be touched/cuddled and smiles/laughs. Thanks!!!

 
Old 04-22-2005, 03:52 PM   #4
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Re: HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

I am from Canada as well
Stay with the ASD label
HF means no services.
Take my word for it .
We pay for everything ourselves.
Plus, get no direction or co-ordination.

 
Old 04-25-2005, 12:10 AM   #5
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I'm from Australia and here everyone is on the Autism Spectrum. They usually just categorise as mild ; moderate; and severe. Quite often someone falls between two categories ( such as moderate to severe). However my son has yet to be given a position on the scale. I too have no idea what those other initials mean.
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Re: HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

PDD-NOS is not always mild, sometimes kids with psychotic features (but who also clearly show autistic traits) get diagnosed with that since there is no official category (there is a research category called Multiplex Developmental Disorder though).

Also, a child who has severe symptoms but not 'enough' to get diagnosed with autism or AS would also get diagnosed PDD-NOS.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:56 PM   #7
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Re: HF Autism vs Classic Autism??????

Hi ladies
I'm in the United States, Illinois to be specific. HF stands for High Functioning I'm not a brain child I looked it up on the web. Tony Attwood writes some interesting articles about autism and so does Dr. Steven E. Gutstein about a new developmental program that opens the door to lifelong social and emotional growth. Classic autism is like the first impression people have when you say the A word you know autism. In the US we do not have developmental pediatricians we get the diagnosis from a pediatric neurologist Best Wishes! B

 
Old 06-13-2005, 06:15 PM   #8
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Yes we do have developmental pediatricians in the US!! When my son was diagnosed at the DEC (Developmental Evaluation Center) he was observed and evaluated by a team of people. A physical therapist, occupational therapist, social worker, speech therapist and a developmental pediatrician. I then followed up with a pediatric neurologist for a second opinion.

 
Old 06-13-2005, 06:22 PM   #9
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I had no idea. What state do you live in?

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Old 06-13-2005, 06:55 PM   #10
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North Carolina. Developmental pediatricians are not rare. They have them in every State even small towns!!!

 
Old 06-15-2005, 11:18 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by NaomiR
I hope this isn't a stupid question but are there children who right in the middle of the spectrum. Our therapist, of course, views typical autistic children as those with banging heads, major stimming, hates to be touched and then 'mild' autism as children with awesome vocabulary. She doesn't think it is possible to have autistic children in the middle of the spectrum. Children with major speech delay, some stimming, total sensory overloads, and anti-social, but likes to be touched/cuddled and smiles/laughs. Thanks!!!
Congratulations...you've just described my son.

 
Old 08-04-2005, 06:25 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by erly
I am from Canada as well
Stay with the ASD label
HF means no services.
Take my word for it .
We pay for everything ourselves.
Plus, get no direction or co-ordination.
I think it depends on what province you are from. I am from Canada as well (BC). My son gets 6000 year for services (behaviour therapy, speech ect...). He also gets 15000 given to the school for his education. However that gets put into a pot and any child diagnosed or undiagnosed can benifit. I sort of dont think that is fair because that money would not be given to the school had he not had autism.

His diagnosis is HF autism. With the school situation, I now homeschool my son because the money he was getting was not going to him at all and it was very frustrating, he was only in class about one hour a day before they were calling me to pick him up. I would personally like to see exactly how that money is spent. For all I know they could be funding extra curricular activities for NT kids. There is virtually no accountability.

 
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