Vaccines and NO autism???? - Autism Spectrum Message Board

ThreeBoys · 08-26-2005, 10:55 PM

Just wondering if anyone out there knows or has kids that have never been vaccinated and have autism???

I have an almost 4 yr old that is on the spectrum, and I gave birth to another boy (#3) and I am scared to death to get him vaccinated. My husband says NO WAY. But there is a DAN! protocol to follow, a schedule for vaccines........

Obviously my husband and I have the make-up in us to produce a child w/autism. I don't want to take any chances with my newest baby!!!

Thank you for any replies!!!!!!!!!!

claste · 08-27-2005, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ThreeBoys

Just wondering if anyone out there knows or has kids that have never been vaccinated and have autism???

I have an almost 4 yr old that is on the spectrum, and I gave birth to another boy (#3) and I am scared to death to get him vaccinated. My husband says NO WAY. But there is a DAN! protocol to follow, a schedule for vaccines........

Obviously my husband and I have the make-up in us to produce a child w/autism. I don't want to take any chances with my newest baby!!!

Thank you for any replies!!!!!!!!!!

i do know people that have children who haven't been vacinated who have autism, as you probably know autism has been documented since "the wild boy of ayveron in the 1800s, i do believe that there are 2 types of autism, vaccine/accident related autism (environmental), and natural autism (biological), but as autism doesn't usually show until the child is approaching 2 we've already vaccinated our children, hence we don't know if our children are environmentally autistic, or biologically autistic (people do have their own views on what i've written this is just my view!) i do know a lady who had her son vaccinated when he was 3.5yrs for his 1st mmr (children are usually 13 - 18 months when they recieve this vaccination) he was a "normal" child with social skills, good communication, etc, a week after the injection he regressed losing most of his skills, he is now autistic. this proves to me that some children with autism are environmentally affected.

off kilter · 08-27-2005, 03:27 AM

My son Paul now 7 &1/2 was autistic from day one before he recieved any vaccines. I also am a vegan so no fish on my menu while pregnant. Paul's autism is classic. He has had all of the symptoms you would associate with Autism, though with a very early diagnoses while still a infant and with intensive treatment he has been able to develope eye contact,some social skills and has few behavior problems . I am always amazed to see kids who are also diagnosed autistic but don't really fall into the classic or asperger mold. I do wonder if there isn't something else going on that mimics Autism- like the mecury question or a different syndrome and the kids are just being added to the autistic spectrum group because they have some autistic qualitys. My friends son has been diagnosed autistic but due to some strange physical issues she and I both feel someday he may be diagnosed with a different syndrome. He is very hairy,has tiny teeth,spock like ears,low muscle tone ( runs very akward & tires easily). He's had a battery of genetic testing done and he doesn't match anything yet. I think we may find autism symptoms have different causes. since Paul was autistic from birth I would vaccinate another child. If Paul had been developing normally till he received vaccines I'm not sure how I would feel about vaccines. I would be afraid even with mecury removed from vaccines that there may still be something in the vaccines that my children react to that causes the autistic symptoms.

boysboysboys · 08-27-2005, 05:13 AM

Hi,
A few weeks ago when I was reading through this message board I remember seeing somebody's story about their older child, who had vaccines, having Autism. They decided not to get their younger one vaccinated-never had a shot-but he also ended up having Autism. I tried to find that entry on the message board so I could quote it for you, but haven't been able to locate it.
I have twin boys who are 2 yrs. & 9 months who have both been vaccinated and both have Autism. I suspected Autism in one boys from a very early age. He was always different and avoided eye contact. The other twin had a sparkle in his eye from the day he was born. Everybody told me that he was going to be my "trouble maker". This feisty boy changed and was never the same after he had hernia surgery. I'm sure the anesthia has at least as many nasty chemicals as the vaccines do. The boys who was different from the beginning keeps getting better (fewer symptoms), but the one who started out fine seems to keep getting slightly worse. We have an appt. with a pediatric neurologist to make sure he doesn't have some other disorder. I'm so confused about the whole Mercury vaccine thing, since I've heard Mercury was phased out in the vaccines in early 2002, and my sons were born in late 2002. I then found out that Mercury is still in the flu vaccine, which they had at one year old and also got exposed to when, at my doctors recommendation, I had a flu shot during my pregnancy. A lot of other people who have posted seem to think there are more than one type of Autism. If that is the case, then I think I have one child who had it from birth and perhaps one that acquired it as a toddler somehow.

anyway, good luck in your search for answers.

heatherjudd · 08-27-2005, 06:55 AM

THERE IS BASICALLY NO AUTISM IN THE AMISH COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ISOLATED (they don't get vaccinated and are in communities of many thousands when in regular america it may be 1 in 100 or so that have autism, when it used to be 1 in 1000 or so). THE ONLY ONES THAT I HAVE HEARD OF SO FAR THAT HAVE AUTISM ARE NON-AMISH CHILDREN THAT WERE ADOPTED WITH AUTISM BY THE AMISH, OR THE MODERN AMISH THAT LIVE A "SO CALLED NORMAL AMERICAN LIFE" AND HAD THEIR CHILDREN VACCINATED HAVE AUTISM