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Old 03-14-2007, 01:49 PM   #1
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behavior issues at school

my 7 year old grandson was transferred to a behavior education center on Dec 6th 2006 from a regular elementary special ed classroom that had tried to meet his needs by using the picture schedule and rountine and what ever other measures they needed to to make it work including a one on one aide and special transportation where vest harness can be used as he is a unpredictable runner .

prior to this school he had attended a autistic school 1/2 a day from 2003 to mid 2005 .
the first year he attended the regular elementary special ed, it went well as they had him going 1/2 a day and there was about 6 kids in the classroom, most who was around the 5th grad level.with 1 teacher,1 regular aide and his aide..
this past year, there was about 10 to 13 kids, who were close to his age and also had significent problems. one that cried constantly..this one my grandson would tell to be quiet and would not, so my told him he was too noisy and punched him.in addition to the student increased his day to almost a full day..
severe behavior problems began.
to the point the school could not handle him.
so he was transferred to the B.E.C. where there is 4 students his age in class,a teacher and 2 aides. and the problems still happening.
at the B.E.C. they use the time out booth which is a wall to wall cement like room.
or the option of the time out chair.

my grandson has to be watched closely when he is in there as he has a tendancy to head bang and other self injury.


which 99% of the time, about 3 or 4 days a week, my grandson winds up having a meltdown at school between 1 and 2:30 pm and it turns into where it takes at least 2 adults to hold him him in basket hold or escort him to time out booth when he wont go to chair.

i get at least 3 incident reports a week where he had become aggressive verbally and physically..

and most of this starts from him refusing to take turns or stop doing something when timer goes off or other times just getting out of his seat wondering around the room.

i strongly think he cant handle a full day at school..
and i would like your imput as im thinking of requesting a meeting about this..
his current teacher said eventually he has to learn to go a full day.
then they have to figure out the transportation situation..wether they could arrange for him to be transported home earlier.

The B.E.C. isnt part of our regular local school district,but contracts our SD to transport B,E.C. students from our district there.


i dont see this too much at home unless we go to walmarts in the afternoon, then he runs..and we ususally find him in quite place or not so much lighted area like by the fish or a corner in the pharmacy where they have the self testing blood pressure monitoring device.

 
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: behavior issues at school

Do you know if he has an Occupational Therapist. My son is only 4.5 years and has started this type of behavior. He was referred to the Severe Behavior Disorder clininc at Monroe Meyer in Nebraska. He has been on the waiting list since July-- we are still waiting. So, I finally got other specialists involved and now, since being diagnosed Sensory Integration Dysfunction-- we are starting to see an OT. I have a friend who's nephew also has SID and they have taught him how to deal with his behavior in a way that it calms him... Maybe this is something to look into. All the things he is doing, sounds so much like Andrew.... I just got the book The Out-of Sync child-- In doing research, this is an outstanding book especially when dealing with these types of situations...
There is something that isn't working for him and I would try to figure out what that is. Good luck to you! Michele

 
Old 03-14-2007, 05:38 PM   #3
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Do you know if he has an Occupational Therapist. My son is only 4.5 years and has started this type of behavior. He was referred to the Severe Behavior Disorder clininc at Monroe Meyer in Nebraska. He has been on the waiting list since July-- we are still waiting. So, I finally got other specialists involved and now, since being diagnosed Sensory Integration Dysfunction-- we are starting to see an OT. I have a friend who's nephew also has SID and they have taught him how to deal with his behavior in a way that it calms him... Maybe this is something to look into. All the things he is doing, sounds so much like Andrew.... I just got the book The Out-of Sync child-- In doing research, this is an outstanding book especially when dealing with these types of situations...
There is something that isn't working for him and I would try to figure out what that is. Good luck to you! Michele


I Believe he does have a part time OT at the B.E.C.
I know he has SID..
he has always been a toe walker since he could walk and 7 years later, still does.
he is very sensitive to noises..
one day he was in his bedroom playing and i was on computer in living room. about 12 ft away.

he started screaming at me to be quiet, i was making to much noise, i told him i wasnt saying or doing anything..

his comeback was..yeahhuh,your making noise on the
puter keyboard.

radio's off frequency set him off..as well as other such noises.

ifound brushings help on occasions..

one of the things he does in the time out booth at school is to remove all his clothes.
boy..the first time he did this at the B.E.C.and the teacher opened the door to check on him.she was shocked..

He likes lots of heavy blankets to sleep under.

he doesnt like touchy gooey stuff or other odd feeling stuff..but this gets me..it was okay to put worms in his jeans pocket one day while out playing and forget about them until i went to wash his jeans and he started screaming..

NO NO..MY WORMS..boy did i dread putting my hands
in those pockets!!!
(YES..THERE WAS SQUISHED WORMS IN THEM..LOL).

 
Old 03-15-2007, 12:09 AM   #4
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Windwalker,
I think you are right in thinking that he cannot handle a full day. He also suggested an intervention when he meltsdown: calm area, low light, no sound, soothing atmosphere. If that's what he ran to at Walmart, that's as good as sayinig "I need a quiet place." He could probably handle a full day and a classroom with more kids but one of the very common issues with ASD kids is transitions. He would need to transition to another setting very slowly and gradually for it to work. To make abrupt changes is only asking for trouble.

 
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Windwalker,
I think you are right in thinking that he cannot handle a full day. He also suggested an intervention when he meltsdown: calm area, low light, no sound, soothing atmosphere. If that's what he ran to at Walmart, that's as good as sayinig "I need a quiet place." He could probably handle a full day and a classroom with more kids but one of the very common issues with ASD kids is transitions. He would need to transition to another setting very slowly and gradually for it to work. To make abrupt changes is only asking for trouble.


I know alot of his problems at the B.E.C. is it was a rush job on the regular elementary special ed schools part.

on Nov 22, i was notified of this change ..we had a meeting ay the 24TH and the special ed class teacher and principal wanted him transferred right after thanksgiving break. but B.E.C them we had to have the IEPC first,so that was set up for Nov 30th. the day we went to it,his teacher and principal hand carried his school files in to the B.E.C...
After about a half hour into the meeting, the B.E.C. principal asked them when did they expect this change to take place, the principal from regular special ed spoke up and said, ummm..we are thinking of tomorrow or monday.
the Staff at B.E.C. all spoke up and said thats not possible..we are not ready and have nothing ready for this transistion. the other principal spoke up and said..well im not sure what to do, we already assigned his aide else where and canceled transportation.

i will have to continue this post in a bit. have a meeting to get to.

 
Old 03-15-2007, 09:06 PM   #6
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Windwalker,
I think you are right in thinking that he cannot handle a full day. He also suggested an intervention when he meltsdown: calm area, low light, no sound, soothing atmosphere. If that's what he ran to at Walmart, that's as good as sayinig "I need a quiet place." He could probably handle a full day and a classroom with more kids but one of the very common issues with ASD kids is transitions. He would need to transition to another setting very slowly and gradually for it to work. To make abrupt changes is only asking for trouble.
ok..i will continue where i left off this morning.
The B.E.C. told the special ed school that was not possible as they had to have time to set the classroom up similar to what he was used to and find out all his needs and how to handle his meltdowns and make his picture schedule..so they could keep his rountine the same.
the B.E.C. said the soonest they could be partly ready would be Dec 6th..and that would be pushing it and things not set up as they should be.

the regular special ed school said..well i guess we could figure out something for friday and she("me) can keep him home Monday and tuesday and then he start Dec 6th..


the special ed teacher stayed at B.E.C. for 4 hours after i left to give them a ideal of his picture schedule and rountine and "his square" taped out.

then she was to attend one day with him his first day at B.E.C. and that was it.

as it turns out his last would be day at regular special ed was a snow.



when he was moved from autistic school because of his age to the regular elementary..the autistic school did a wonderful job in transistioning him.
the autistic aide he had been with for almost 2 years went to new school with him for 6 months and worked with him, trained the teachers ,one on one aide, set up his schedule,set up a safe time out room and had everything set up to what he was used at autistic school.
he stayed there until he could shadow what was going on and my grandson didnt really notice that the autistic aide wasnt in sight as much any more.

so eventually fazed out of the picture..things went good the rest of that year until the new school year with more kids and a longer day and more kaos and noise..thats when things fell apart and they moved him to B.E.C in a rush.

yesterday, he told me..Mimi.."if i can go back to my other school, i promise i will be good there"..he wants so bad to go back to the regular special ed elementary school.

 
Old 03-16-2007, 10:35 AM   #7
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If transitional issues, class size, teacher and or aide ration, etc, etc. is listed in the IEP, then the school is required to meet all those specific obligations. If they don't, they are in violation of law. So, if you haven't already, it might be worth having an IEP specifically to list out the particcular needs of your child. Those detailed needs then become the basis for services which must be provided. You can list all kinds of needs, such as the need for a quiet, darkened, noise limited, area away from other children for "time out." You can list the needs for transitions of all kinds. The needs for Picture Exchange System,......Another important reason to have it detailed in the IEP is that document remains all through school years. It's updated periodically, but the basic needs are there and, again, the school is required by law to meet them. Good luck.

 
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