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Old 12-02-2003, 06:57 AM   #1
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Angry Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

Hi everyone. I have a herniated L4L5 and have been prescribed Mobic, Skelaxin, and Darvocet. On my good days, this is plenty, but on the bad days, Darvocet just isn't enough. I've asked him for something stronger, but we have such a problem with street Hydrocodon in this area that doc's won't prescribe it if you really need it. I don't want anyone thinking I'm a drug addict, but I have a 5 month old 20 lb. baby, and need something to take away the pain so I can take care of him like I'm supposed to.

This doctor isn't the only one like that in this area. They all are like that. My last doctor wouldn't even give me Darvocet!!! Does anyone else have this problem, and how can I deal with it? I feel like if I keep asking, they will think I'm an addict and that will make them less likely to give me anything. We also have alot of "doctor shoppers" around here who make up various aches and pains to get Hydrocodon and Oxycodon prescriptions. But I'm not one of them!!!
It really sucks that the people who really need pain meds have to suffer because of the ones who abuse them!
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Old 12-02-2003, 07:03 AM   #2
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

Hi siren1024,I really sympathize with you and I know what you mean. There are people out there that ruin it for people like us that REALLY need the meds. I have to go to my Doc tomorrow and see if I can get something stronger. I am also getting her to refer me to a pain clinic. I think what you should do is go to a different area in your city and look for another Doctor or you can also go to a pain clinic, they are suppose to be very helpful. I hope this helps you and take care and I hope you find a good Doc, they are hard to find!!

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Old 12-02-2003, 08:31 AM   #3
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

Aaarrgghhh....this kind of thing makes me soo mad! Doctors need to have more compassion and better 'people" skills...not everyone is out for drugs and they know that. I think it is an excuse on their part; have you had a long, honest talk with your doctor? If not, I would try that and if you don't succeed, ask him to refer you to pain management. What a shame that we have to jump through hoops like this.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:39 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=siren1024]Hi everyone. I have a herniated L4L5 and have been prescribed Mobic, Skelaxin, and Darvocet. On my good days, this is plenty, but on the bad days, Darvocet just isn't enough. I've asked him for something stronger, but we have such a problem with street Hydrocodon in this area that doc's won't prescribe it if you really need it. I don't want anyone thinking I'm a drug addict, but I have a 5 month old 20 lb. baby, and need something to take away the pain so I can take care of him like I'm supposed to.



Don't be too mad. I am on extra strength Hydrocodone/Apap and I am having Lamen surgery on Dec 9th. Honestly it sounds like it only works as good as your Darvocet. On good days it helps, but some days, the pain is so bad, it's like I haven't taken it at all! In any case good luck.

 
Old 12-03-2003, 08:38 PM   #5
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

I have the same issue. I cannot get anything to save my life. I have tried differnet approaches but to no avail. And I feel the same way you do. I dont want to keep harping on the doc, for fear they will think I only want the drugs. I have run out of ideas and am very frustrated. Everyday is a strugle. And they just expect you to deal with it. Then you hear stories of people who have so many pain meds they dont know what to do with them. And the only reason they got them is because they have a doc that doesnt care, and they dont even need the meds for a legit reason.

What to do, what to do, what to do......

sucks!

 
Old 12-04-2003, 08:00 AM   #6
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

[QUOTE=ssjTiamat]I have the same issue. I cannot get anything to save my life. I have tried differnet approaches but to no avail. And I feel the same way you do. I dont want to keep harping on the doc, for fear they will think I only want the drugs. I have run out of ideas and am very frustrated. Everyday is a strugle. And they just expect you to deal with it. Then you hear stories of people who have so many pain meds they dont know what to do with them. And the only reason they got them is because they have a doc that doesnt care, and they dont even need the meds for a legit reason.

What to do, what to do, what to do......

sucks![/QUOTE]

Hi: I am on the potent pain meds; I suffered 8 years before I was helped. I requested a referral to a pain management specialist (anethesologist--spelling could be wrong). After referral and recommendation for opiates, my family doctor still would not help me. I learned to try a younger doctor and an internal medicine specialist--NOT a family doctor. Internal med docs handle ongoing adult problems. Sometimes some docs won't prescibe ongoing opiates to younger people. When my family doc got the report and he refused to help me, I got a copy of my report and started going down my insurance companies list of providers. I would call the doc's office and say I have this report, recommending opiates from chronic pain; does the doctor prescribe these? Once I found a doc that would help me, I had to have many tests run. Also, before prescribing opiates, you have to "jump through hoops" and you must have exhausted every other type of pain management offered. I had physical therapy, TENS unit, anti-depressants, etc. None worked; the opiates worked because I have neuropathic (burning) pain; that is from pinched nerves (14 degenerating disks is my problem). The prescribing doc must have all the tests in your file, showing you truly have a problem. Why?? The DEA (drug enforcement agency). If a doc over prescribed opiates, a pharmasist can turn the doc in to DEA. When the Feds decide to investigate a doc for over prescribing, they want to see proof in his files that you are messed up and you have tried everything else first!! Unfortunately, the laws are set up to cause untold suffering for Americans; however, the opiate laws are slowly changing. You are right, the drug abusers have ruined it for everyone who really needs the pain meds. You are not alone, being treated like "druggie"; it has happened to us all. Do a search for [COLOR=Red][removed: search instructions to find website] [/COLOR] Take care, Patmg

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Old 12-27-2003, 10:58 PM   #7
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

My pain management dr basically has me on several different pills and none of them are working and when i tell him this, he basically says "your young, healthy, youll have to deal with the pain" and he also tells me its not going away and the pain will get better in 3-4 years. Right now im on neurontin, darvacet, ultram, and a prescription sleeping pill. It seems like none of these pills really help and when i try to take them all-- im just miseralbe from the grogginess and the pain is still there. A friend of mine who is a nurse told me i should try a internal med dr so i have an appt with one in 2 weeks and hopefully that dr will do something.

 
Old 12-27-2003, 11:20 PM   #8
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All I can say is that if I were you I would go to another Dr. My god these Doctors and health care workers are out of their friggen minds if they want us to be on these "barely getting by pain medications" & expect us to remain sane!!! We are not addicts here!!!! Example. Today I took NO pain medication at all.... Normally I take Perkocet. I will be laid up in bed for several days recooperating & paying for overdoing it today. But knowing I would be driving I did not take anything after 10 pm last night. Vicodin, Darvocet & nothing else touches the pain I am in besides Perkocet. Its a sad day when good people have to go to other doctors call it shopping around if you like I really dont mind Whats even sadder than that to me is having to wait 5 months till a better Dr. gets back from sebatical cause he will take them more seriously..... But thats what this world has come to unfortunately... You have to do what you have to do. It is sad I know.....

 
Old 12-28-2003, 04:35 AM   #9
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

I found that you have to tell your dr what you want rather then wait for him to give you what he wants.I had a dr like that and we got into a bit of an arguement about it,he did see it my way once it was pointed out to him.MD's are trained to give the meds if its needed based on a scale of 1 to 10 with the severity of your pain.I was having alot of pain that day I spoke to my MD and he finally gave me Endocet(percocet)which lasted me about 4 months.My point is...be assertive!They are human also but they need to be reminded of the fact sometimes.

 
Old 12-28-2003, 08:15 AM   #10
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

I was taking Darvocet for years before my Fusion Surgery. I found that I had to take 2 Darvocet every 4 hrs. everyday in order to control the pain. I did it for years. It did not stop all the pain.........but made it manageable. I didn't wait till it was untolarable! (only way it would help me) Fusion surgery 2001........& I'm fixed! No Pain.........No Drugs!!
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Old 12-28-2003, 07:20 PM   #11
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

Don't give up! Look for another doctor, or get yours to refer you to a pain managment clinic. Not every doctor has their heads in the sand, some actually understand what pain is. It may take a while, you may have to "shop", but some doctor care about how you live your life. While there are "quacks" out there who prescribe anything for anybody, there are doctors who are well informed about chronic pain. There is hope if you are willing to do the legwork.
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Old 12-29-2003, 10:31 AM   #12
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

[QUOTE=siren1024]Hi everyone. I have a herniated L4L5 and have been prescribed Mobic, Skelaxin, and Darvocet. On my good days, this is plenty, but on the bad days, Darvocet just isn't enough. I've asked him for something stronger, but we have such a problem with street Hydrocodon in this area that doc's won't prescribe it if you really need it. I don't want anyone thinking I'm a drug addict, but I have a 5 month old 20 lb. baby, and need something to take away the pain so I can take care of him like I'm supposed to.

This doctor isn't the only one like that in this area. They all are like that. My last doctor wouldn't even give me Darvocet!!! Does anyone else have this problem, and how can I deal with it? I feel like if I keep asking, they will think I'm an addict and that will make them less likely to give me anything. We also have alot of "doctor shoppers" around here who make up various aches and pains to get Hydrocodon and Oxycodon prescriptions. But I'm not one of them!!!
It really sucks that the people who really need pain meds have to suffer because of the ones who abuse them![/QUOTE]
I take Ultracet for my back/neck condition. It's not as strong as Codeine, or Percocet, or Vicadin, but it seems to work for me. It also keeps me going through the day...I don't have too much drowsiness, and w/and active 5-yr-old, I know that if I can relieve pain w/out crashing, it's a good thing. It doesn't alleviate the pain entirely, but it does make living w/the pain bearable.
Good luck

 
Old 12-29-2003, 08:44 PM   #13
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

Hi all, I too have the same problem. I can not get a job because this place is so small and everyone here knows that I had back surgery, I cannot get disability, nor can I get anything to help me cope, I'm at my wits end and I need to strangle something. Anyway I do not know of any solutions but I thought I would just put my two cents worth in and see if anybody else came up with any miracle solutions.
Best of luck to all back pain survivors, we are not alone.

 
Old 01-03-2004, 06:55 AM   #14
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I am here I have no meds, and an unstable thoracic spondylolisthesis (forward slippage of a vertabral segmet) at ninteen I received tramatic blows to upper extremity. I was sore but felt better in time. After many re-injuries and degenerative back desease. Thoracic spinal pain and pressence of nuero indicators. No reflex in right leg. Sensory nerves in hands are blown and I have the wounds to prove it. I am 39 6 children and in 20 year have had three doctors who have continued care 7 years out of 20...blah blah I have not had a breath pain rating is 10. Last night I passed out twice and vomoting daily. I went to the emergecy room last night and while I am grateful because I slept 3 hours or so comfortably. The four reg strength vicoden maybe 6 hours maybe 6 or 7 pain. No script. Given shot dilauded im wore off 50 minutes after getting home. I have multipule trama and films for 15 years...mris here I am in UNRELENTING PAIN...sorry about the rant.

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Old 01-03-2004, 07:11 AM   #15
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Re: Doctor won't prescribe strong narcotics!!!!!

lets be honest here...the darvocet even our best days is not enough

The need to be real if only here, if not we are what they say. We are denying we are deparate to feel better, and furthermore the clinicially +

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