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Old 12-11-2003, 07:35 AM   #1
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Hi everyone...
I am new to the board and, in a short time, have found it to be the most informative board out there. On to my problem... I am 26 and have had lower back pain on and off since I was about 20. Over the past year this pain has gotten much worse. I went to my primary care Dr. and he sugested an MRI. I just got the results... Herniated L5-S1, with no impact on the nerve. He told me this was probably not causing the pain, but he couldn't tell. In the meantime he set me up with a spine specialist, but that is not until mid january! All I know is that it is getting worse by the week. I had pain just in my lower back years ago but now it goes down my right leg into my foot. It almost feels like very painful pins and needles. All indications have pointed toward a herniated -or- reptured disk and now hr tells me that this is probably not what is causing my pain? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Could the herniated disk be causing this pain even if there is no visible impact? What steps should I take and will the specialist be able to do anything different? currently, I have been left to suffer w/tylenol and no sleep. Thanks, Rob.

 
Old 12-11-2003, 08:37 AM   #2
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Re: L5-s1

[QUOTE=CRANBERRYKID]Hi everyone...
I am new to the board and, in a short time, have found it to be the most informative board out there. On to my problem... I am 26 and have had lower back pain on and off since I was about 20. Over the past year this pain has gotten much worse. I went to my primary care Dr. and he sugested an MRI. I just got the results... Herniated L5-S1, with no impact on the nerve. He told me this was probably not causing the pain, but he couldn't tell. In the meantime he set me up with a spine specialist, but that is not until mid january! All I know is that it is getting worse by the week. I had pain just in my lower back years ago but now it goes down my right leg into my foot. It almost feels like very painful pins and needles. All indications have pointed toward a herniated -or- reptured disk and now hr tells me that this is probably not what is causing my pain? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Could the herniated disk be causing this pain even if there is no visible impact? What steps should I take and will the specialist be able to do anything different? currently, I have been left to suffer w/tylenol and no sleep. Thanks, Rob.[/QUOTE]
Hi Rob,
I am new to this board as well,also a long way away (UK) in fact. My husband had a disectomy 2 weeks ago. Prior to his operation he had persistant pain in his groin, numbness in his thigh & sometimes pins & needles right down to his foot.
Immediately after the operation the pain was instantly gone, but the numbness still persists, with extra numbness as well. He is having physio twice a week which really wears him out. The problem was a bulging disc pressing on a nerve (L5). The surgeon trimmed the disc. He has done very well so far & was allowed home a day early. The nerve was trapped for approx 9 months & that was after many years of severe back problems.
He is very happy now that he is pain free, but really concerned that the numbness & pins & needles still persist. We are assured that it is early days & that the nerve needs time to heal. So we are just keeping our fingers crossed.
His story sounds remarkably like yours. He was on pain killers permantly leading up to the op.
We both hope that you get some releif from your pain soon. It certainly sounds like the disc is bulging on to the nerve.
Hope this might have been some help.
Good luck.
Lesley

 
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:21 AM   #3
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Re: L5-s1

It sounds like the disc is affect the nerve to me too, but the Dr. told me it is herniated, but not to that level. But, I know how I feel. I have always had a high tolerance to pain but this is way beyond the pain of a broken arm -or- some stitches + it is always there.
Is your husband still on the pain killers? That is another thing I worry about. Don't get me wrong, I would take the pain killers, now, if they were prescribed, but I don't want to rely on them for the rest of my life. Good luck to you and your husband on his recovery. I hope the numbness goes away soon. That is by leaps and bounds better than the pain, but it is still very bothersome.


[QUOTE=lesley ely]Hi Rob,
I am new to this board as well,also a long way away (UK) in fact. My husband had a disectomy 2 weeks ago. Prior to his operation he had persistant pain in his groin, numbness in his thigh & sometimes pins & needles right down to his foot.
Immediately after the operation the pain was instantly gone, but the numbness still persists, with extra numbness as well. He is having physio twice a week which really wears him out. The problem was a bulging disc pressing on a nerve (L5). The surgeon trimmed the disc. He has done very well so far & was allowed home a day early. The nerve was trapped for approx 9 months & that was after many years of severe back problems.
He is very happy now that he is pain free, but really concerned that the numbness & pins & needles still persist. We are assured that it is early days & that the nerve needs time to heal. So we are just keeping our fingers crossed.
His story sounds remarkably like yours. He was on pain killers permantly leading up to the op.
We both hope that you get some releif from your pain soon. It certainly sounds like the disc is bulging on to the nerve.
Hope this might have been some help.
Good luck.
Lesley[/QUOTE]

 
Old 12-11-2003, 11:50 AM   #4
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Hi All,
Saw this board and could not believe my eyes. I have been in so much pain since February 2003 and none of my doctors seem to know what is causing it. My MRI read as follows: L1-2 Normal, L2-3 Mild disc desiccation /disc bulge, L3-4 Minimal disc bludge, L4-5 Mild disc degeneraiton and disc bulge with ligamentous thickening, L5-S1 Mild disc desiccation, small central disc hernation slightly asymmetric to left, mild bilateral facet sclerosis and ligamentou thickening. Both none of this is what he feels is causing my pain. Does anyone have any answers for me. I would certainly appreciate the help.

 
Old 12-12-2003, 09:55 AM   #5
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[QUOTE=CRANBERRYKID]It sounds like the disc is affect the nerve to me too, but the Dr. told me it is herniated, but not to that level. But, I know how I feel. I have always had a high tolerance to pain but this is way beyond the pain of a broken arm -or- some stitches + it is always there.
Is your husband still on the pain killers? That is another thing I worry about. Don't get me wrong, I would take the pain killers, now, if they were prescribed, but I don't want to rely on them for the rest of my life. Good luck to you and your husband on his recovery. I hope the numbness goes away soon. That is by leaps and bounds better than the pain, but it is still very bothersome.[/QUOTE]
Hi Rob
We have just come home from his lastest physio. He has to start doing stretching exercises at home now albeit for a very short time a day. He is certainly not reliant on pain killers in fact has not taken any for three days. Please do all you can to hurry some action for your self. We will be very interested as to how you get on.
Good luck
Lesley

 
Old 12-12-2003, 01:46 PM   #6
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Re: L5-s1

Hi,

I had a similar experience - severe back and leg pain, and the first sugeon (orthopedic) felt that my L5-S1 disc was hardly touching the nerve and was not responsible for the pain. Got a second opinion (neurosurgeon), who examined me, almost discounted the MRI scan as 'that's only a single moment in time, and I can tell more by looking at you', and offered a discectomy. That was in July, and despite a slow recovery, I'm now much much better. Only having very rare (and manageable) leg pain, and a slightly stiff back in the evening or if I lift too much.

My advice - get another opinion!!

Good luck.
David

 
Old 12-13-2003, 08:12 PM   #7
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Re: L5-s1

Sounds like you just may need another opinion from a different Dr. NOT your pcp. if its your pcp have him/her refer you to either a phtsical med dr. or a some sort of specialist to take care of you. If you have to go to the after hours ER. It can be very frustrating. I had L5S1 discectomy laminectomy 8 yrs ago & am back where I started only in way worse pain & I saw a different surgeon finally last Thursday who is on a high horse who told me he wouldnt have done surgery one me 8 years ago based on my MRI then or based on my MRI now even though its worse now. says he cant see a compromised nerve. Im in so much pain I cant even sit up in a chair longer than 5 minutes & am on disability. He told me he didnt care to hear about pain cause he doesnt work in a pain clinic. Wants to send me for a myelogram. I may just wait till Feb when my Dr gets back. If you can see a Dr. you know someone can recommend it sure does help. Dont give up!!! This board also helps a lot!!!! Your pain is real! What you are feeling is real! We are here for you! XXX

 
Old 12-14-2003, 08:23 PM   #8
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Re: L5-s1

KID,
There is nothing magic about one single test when it comes to the spine. It seems many people think an MRI is the magic test but sometimes they alone don't tell the entire story. There are other tests such as Mylograms or Discograms that may show your problem that doesn't show up in an MRI.
Good Luck,
Larry
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1990-Myelogram=L4-5 LAMINECTOMY.1998-Myelogram,Discogram,CTscan=L 4-5 FUSION w/BAK cages. 2002-Prolotherapy injections. 2003-April-MRI Lumbar spine=DDD,bulges,arthritis,low disc height,Physical Therapy.2003-May-MRI Thorasic spine=Two herniations displacing nerve roots.2003-July-Nerve blocks/epidurals; 2003-August-L5/S1 FORAMENOTOMY.2003-October-Lumbar Discogram=2003-December-L5/S1 FUSION w/BMP/LT cages. 2004-Jan-Pain much worse than before surgery. CTscan & L1/L2 nerve block & Myelogram.

 
Old 12-16-2003, 04:45 AM   #9
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Re: L5-s1

This thread has been very helpful. I have had lower back pain and severe hip pain for a couple of yrs. The Dr. finally said fibromyalgia, because he couldn't find anything else wrong. A mo. ago I fell and my back has been worse. I saw a Ortho. and did a ct scan and he says I have arthritis in L4-5 & L5-S1, but my next appt. isn't till the end of Dec. Could my hips be part of this back pain? And what is a Mylogram and a discogram?
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