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Old 05-20-2003, 06:21 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone

It is me again. I need help because I am very confused about my medical doctors and who I should be seeing. [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img] Let me explain so that you guys can give me the correct info.

On May 5,2002, I was injured at work. W/C sent me to a Orthopedic Doc. I saw him for one month. He sent me for a MRI that came back normal, and 3 ESI. Epidural helped me for about 5 mons. Also sent me for a EMG one week after ESI. ( I think that could be the reason that this test came back normal)

On June 25, 2002, W/C denied my claim and stopped paying me and all medical. I retained a lawyer, and he refered me to a GP Doctor. I had to stop seeing Ortho Doc.

June 25, 2002 to Jan 20, 2003 I was only seeing the GP Doctor that lawyer referred me to. GP Doc wasn't able to send me for any test or to any specialist because I had no medical coverage. He prescribed me my pain meds and physical therapy. He told me that even if he could send me for tests, that he wouldn't because he feared I might lose my W/C case due to the fact that my MRI and EMG came back normal.

January 20, 2003 I won my W/C case. I had to beg the GP Doc to send me for a discogram. He seemed surprise that I still wanted to pursue getting my back fix. This made me feel uncomfortable because I am not sure if he is looking out for my best interest!

March 2003, I had discogram done in and it came back with tears at L4-L5 & L5-S1. I had to be persistant in asking him to send me to somebody that could fix the tears. Told me that my problem was not a big deal.

April 2002 GP Doc finally sent me to a Physiologist (sp?) to discuss Nucleoplasty. He told me that this doc was a Orthopedic Doc.

April ? 2003 I met with what I thought was a Ortho Doc and gave him all my records. Explained to him all my symptoms. We discussed Nucleoplasty and I said lets go for it, because I can't deal with pain much longer. Instead, he set me up for a Transforamital(sp?) injection to see if it would help, and it didn't. At two week check-up I told him that injection didn't help and that I wanted to move on the Nucleoplasty as quickly as possible because I can't stand the pain and it was getting worse. So he decides to set me up for a Intra-Discal Injection to find out what disc is causing me my problems.

May 14, 2003 I had the Intra-Discal Injection done at the L4-L5. I got relief for about a day. I called and scheduled my Nucleoplasty surgery for June 16th. I have to see him on Wed, May 28th.

May 19, 2003 I had severe pain along with a high fever. I was doubling up on my pain meds but it wasn't helping. I called the doc who did the Injections and will be doing the Nucleoplasty, but he never returned my call. My husband forced me to go to the ER who almost accused me of being a drug seeker to get some relief of pain. They gave me a demural shot with a prescription of tylenol 3's and sent me home.

Today, May 20, 2003 I went to see the GP for refill on pain meds. I told him that I went to ER on Friday night. I also told him that my surgery is scheduled for June 16, 2003. I asked him for a referal for a second opinion after talking to a few of the people on the boards who suggested that I do that and he said NO! I asked him why not? He told me that I only have tears, and a surgeon wouldn't touch my back and that was my only option and I had to use the doctor he sent me to. He really confuses me because after the discogram in March, he has said all along that I had two tears with one being herniated, and now that I want a second opinion, I only have disc tears. I think I would need a referal to see another doctor, and it is out of the question to ask this jerk! I was going to ask him for something for depression, but I didn't. I have asked him for several things that people on here have suggested like a Tens Unit...NO back brace...NO something to help me to sleep...NO I only found out today that the Doctor doing the Nucleoplasty isn't a Orthopedec he is a Physiologist. Also, I can't even go to physical therapy unless I go to his office that is equipped. I have a rehab that is 5 mins from my home. His office is 20-25 minutes away!

Please help me and stir me into the right direction. If I EVER needed your help, I NEED IT NOW! What should I do? What kind of doctor should I be seeing? Do you think it is rational to think that the GP doc doesn't want me to get better? I mean after all, my Lawyer is the one who sent me to him. I told the GP doc that I was tired of all the W/C bull and don't want to be on it if I din't have to. I told him that I want to get better so that I could go back to work asap.

I am scared of my own Doctor I am crying and upset right now and I need some advice please! I don't know what to do.

Brenda
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
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Old 05-20-2003, 07:55 PM   #2
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I hope I can help you find some relief in your mental state.

I have been through alot of run around before also. Yes it is frustrating

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you do not have to ask your dr for a second opinion. This is your right. Any dr who says you cannot do this is dead wrong !!!!! Get a third opinion if you want. This is your life your pain and your quality of life here...... not a movie review.
You dr works for you. I know this is difficult to comprehend cause we tend to think of Dr's as miracle workers who know it all or at least know alot.... I had trouble getting this thru my head.
Don't worry about upsetting your dr. If he gets upset with what you want then he isn't the right dr for you. You need to find someone who is willing to be as conservative or aggresive in your treatment as you are.
As for therapy??? he says only in his facility? well since you are dealing with the insurance issue and will be paying for it go to where you want.
Again this is your life.

Surgery is not a cure all. Therapy is not a cure all. Medication is not a cure all.
But a combination of them any of them will get you into a comfort level.

Get as calm as you can and think of what you NEED. Not what you WANT your Dr to be able to do for you.

I know I sound like the Kung Fu Philosophical gal but I am trying to make the statement of this is your illness your injury. Don't be bullied.


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Old 05-20-2003, 08:32 PM   #3
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Hi Hon

I am soooo sorry for what you are feeling. I am not sure how to help you, but I did want you to know that I am thinking of you and I will be praying for you.

Always know that you have friends here...and do NOT let the doctors bully you. You, and only you know how you feel. Someone somewhere will help you. Keep your chin up and DON'T GIVE UP [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif[/img]

Praying for you,
Janice
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April 14, 2003 - L5S1 laminotomy/decompression of the spine. 5 hour surgery. One nerve almost severed by herniation, two nerves adhered together b/c of inflammation.
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April 14, 2003 - L5S1 Partial laminectomy/discectomy. 5 hour surgery. One nerve almost severed by herniation, two nerves adhered together b/c of inflammation. Neurosurgeon had to reattach the almost severed nerve. He also coated the nerves that were stuck together with silicone.

May 27, 2003 - returned to work full time. The first week was agonizing.

July 1, 2003 - still having a lot of pain. The last two weeks the pain is different...it has moved to the right side, just above my hip. It is a stabbing, burning pain, very severe. I still have no feeling down the back of my left leg, the outside of my left foot and my two smallest toes. Appointment with the neurosurgeon July 8...my three month visit.

July 8, 2003 - Neuro vist. He ordered another MRI ASAP. He is sure the disc has re-herniated and will probably want to do surgery again. Either another partial laminectomy/discectomy or fusion.

July 16, 2003 - MRI With- and without-contrast - hopefully will tell us what is going on and why I am in so much pain.

July 21, 2003 - MRI results show that the disc has re-herniated on the same side and that I have "significant" scarring. The neuro doesn't want to wait until August 5 to see me. I have an appointment next Tuesday. (July 29)

August 5, 2003 - Going crazy with worry. I have never been as scared of anything as I am this surgery!

August 13, 2003 - Scheduled for surgery. Fusion with a cage, rods, screws and bone marrow from my hip.

 
Old 05-20-2003, 08:56 PM   #4
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Brenda!!

Wow, you have been through a lot. You need to be calm, because if you are not, the pain will be worse!!!! I know that is easy to say and not be able to do, but try and stay calm.

I am not sure how the law works in PA, but in California, if you don't agree with your doctor, you have the right for a second opinion, third if necessary. It is your given right to seek the opinion of another doctor. Can you get another GP doctor???

Call back your lawyer and explain to him what is going on and have him help you. He is getting paid, he should do something to help you!!!! Or should be able to refer you to somebody else!!

Do you have regular insurance?? If you do, you could use that to get a second opinion??? Maybe fudge the truth a bit, if necessary. The important thing is that you get your body taken care of, no matter the stakes!!!

It is my understanding that an orthopedic doctor or a neurologist is the type of doctors you should be seeing, but for a tear, it may be different.

My suggestion is to get all of your records together, call the doctors and ask for a copy or your medical records or your lawyer, with your films, etc., and go see a doctor and pay him cash. What could one visit cost and he could send you in the right direction with the WC?? Again the most important thing is to try and control your pain!!!

Well, let me know how things work out!!! Good luck. I wish I could help you more

Take Care
Renee

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Old 05-20-2003, 10:14 PM   #5
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Hi Brenda,

Gosh...I am so sorry to hear how w/c is dinking you around. For CA...w/c law is we must see "their" doctor (or one approved by them) the first month. After those 30 days....you are free to choose another primary care physician for your injury. HOWEVER.... you are "stuck" with that new doctor for the life of your injury -- UNLESS there is fraud, or negligence (or something like that) on the part of the doctor.

As for a second opinion....actually, I didn't think w/c would approve ANY surgery(s) until a 2nd opinion concurred with the first one. I agree with the others too....why would he be so against a 2nd opinion? Unless he is hiding something or lieing. In fact... I would tell him that to his face. If he still gives you a hard time, leave the office and don't go back. Call your lawyer and get another referral... OR ... depending on how far along you are in the w/c process-usually you cannot talk to your w/c adjuster anymore when you get a lawyer.

Your doctor can be ANY kind of doctor (but a GYN wouldn't be approved by w/c---hehe). So a chiro, osteopath, neuro, spine surgeon, General Practitioner (GP), etc. I sure hope you get some relief soon as well as find a better doctor. Heck...I would even start looking right now. Can't hurt to call around. Good luck to you.



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Oct 2000: Repetitive Stress Injury-Inverted Hernia
Feb 2001: MRI. Shows only slight bulge at L4-L5
Dec 2001: Discogram/CT scan shows Inverted Hernia at L5-S1. L4-L5 & L5-S1 ruptured in all 4 quadrants. Unable to walk.
Feb 2002: IDET, Nucleoplasty, Intra-Discal Injections
Sept 2002: Rated in the top 10% for successful patients. Retraining for new career.

 
Old 05-20-2003, 10:30 PM   #6
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Hi Backwoes Lisa,Twinkie,& Renee

God Bless all of you for your responses. You are so right, I need to try and calm down and think. My head has been spinning all day.

Hi Backwoes, you are right, I should be allowed to get a second opinion. I would like to get one before my surgery that is scheduled for June 16th. I want to make sure this is the surgery that I really need. Are you positive I am entiled to get a second opinion? because if you are right, I will call the GP tomorrow and tell him that I demand one. I am afraid of upsetting him...but you are right this is my life. Also, your last comment made made me cry my eyes out, because it is true, he has bullied me from day one and I don't know how to stop it I hate to go to my appointments with him because I get knots in my stomach. I have put up with it, because at the time my lawyer referred me to him, WC cut me off and I had no health insurance so he took care of me for free. I guess this is his way of me paying him back.

Hi Twinkie, you just being here for me helps. Thank you so much. I will try to keep my chin up, I am just having a hard time right now. As long as I have friends like you guys, I won't give up..just in need of some guidance. Thanks again for being so kind.

Hi Renee, you are right, these past two weeks have been rough, and I will try to calm down because it does make my pain worst. My husband also suggested I get a new doctor. He came home and found me in tears...again! He has been seeing that a lot lately and he isn't use to it. I tend to keep my feelings inside, but lately that is getting hard to do. I never thought about calling my Lawyer to see if he can refer me to somebody else. I will do that tomorrow that is a great idea! I do have copies of my medical records already. I think I will call the hospital and see if they have some kind of referal or list of doctors. I will call and see if I can get a appointment for a second opinion. I just don't know if they will ask me if I have a referal. If I have to, I will pay for it. I know one thing is for sure, I can't go into this surgery feeling good unless I get second opinion. It would just make me fell better, ya know what I mean?
I just don't know what to do if I call a couple of doctors and they all want referals. What should I do then? What are referals about anyway? Why can't I just call and make a appointment and go? I guess I will be on the phone all day tomorrow.

I want to thank you guys for being there for me. i think the key thing for me to do is stay calm like backwoes said. It is amazing how as I was reading your post, I calmed myself down and was able to think a little clearer. I am very thankful to have such caring people in my life that I don't even know you guys are truly a blessing. i hope that someday I can return the favor and be there for all of you.

I will keep you posted on what happens, cause I am still going to need your help and advice.

Ps. I have a feeling I am going to be up most of the night. Stress def plays a part in pain and along with pain, comes no sleep.

God Bless and Take Care,
Brenda [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif[/img]

WC is now paying my medical so I don't think they would have a hard time letting me get a second opinion but I am not allowed to contact them. WC would also would pay for me to go to another physical therapy place, but GP Doc won't give me a referal bc he wants me to use his facilities.
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
Old 05-20-2003, 10:53 PM   #7
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Hi Success

Thank you soooo much for responding. I forgot you are an expert at this. I am atleast I think, in a bad situation, and I need some advice. I have been seeing a doctor that my lawyer refered me to. He is not a W/C Doc, he is just a GP. I asked him today at my appointment, if I could get a second opinion for the surgery that is scheduled for June 16th,.. and he told me NO! He told me that there is no sense of getting a second opinion bc I have tears and he feels as though nobody else would touch my back. What has me puzzled, is ever since March when I had my discogram, he has told me I have two torn disc with one herniation at L4-L5 that is on the left side. Today however, he said I just have tears and he will not give me a referal to get a second opinion. What is going on?

I can't call WC bc the lawyer is handling my case. This GP told me that the Doc that would be doing the Nucleoplasty was a Ortho Doc. The GP refered me to the Doc who will be doing my surgery. Well I found out today, that he is not a Ortho Doc. I am totally confused and beside myself.

This has been going on for a year now and i am getting worst. When I think back now, I have never seen a Orth Doc or a Nur Doc, except for my first month.

Please Help Me. I could use your expertise right about now. I would be truly grateful for any information that you could give me.

Thank you so much success for being there for me. Again, any info would be appreciated.

One more thing, what kind of Doctor did your Nucleoplasty? What types of Doctors have you seen throuout your injury?

God Bless,
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 12:20 AM   #8
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Hi Brenda,
I am so sorry to hear what you are going through.

How can he say "JUST" tears!!!!!?? Tears at the disc can be REALLY PAINFUL!!

You do not have to ask your doctor for permission to get a second opinion. Where are you located in PA? Why don't you ask someone on the list in your area for a recommendation?

I would see another doctor right away. And, if the doctor who's doing your nucleoplasty won't return your calls, I'd find another surgeon. Imagine how he'll be if you have a problem post-op! That's when you'll really need him to return your calls.

Find out how many surgeries a week the doc performs. You want him to be current on the procedure. If he gets offended by your asking questions, go elsewhere.

Good luck!!!
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4 years of back pain
Annular tear L5-S1 diagnosed 5/02 via MRI
IDET 12/2/02
1/26/03 Posterior disc prolapse occurs after sitting too long after walking. Causes new pain down left leg.
3/1/03 Leg pain reduced with exercises from the book "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie.
3/9/03 Lateral disc prolapse causes buttock and thigh pain and numbness.
3/25/03 Used McKenzie techniques to treat disc prolapse -- pain reduced
4/4/03 Started physical therapy
5/8/03 Still worse than pre-IDET, but showing slow improvement with PT, McKenzie exercises, yoga, and Hanna Somatics exercises
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4 years of back pain, but was still able to work and maintain moderate activity (hiking, low-impact aerobic exercise)
Annular tear L5-S1 diagnosed 5/02 via MRI
IDET 12/2/02
1/26/03 Posterior disc prolapse occurs after sitting too long after walking. Causes new pain down left leg.
3/1/03 Leg pain reduced with exercises from the book "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie.
3/9/03 Severe, new buttock and thigh pain and numbness starts.
3/25/03 Used McKenzie techniques to treat buttock and thigh pain -- pain reduced
4/4/03 Started physical therapy
5/8/03 Still worse than pre-IDET, but showing slow improvement with PT, McKenzie exercises, yoga, and Hanna Somatics exercises
5/30/03 PT suggests buttock and thigh pain may be from facet joint
7/6/03 Still worse than pre-IDET due to leg and thigh pain and numbness, and have become so inactive I can't tell whether back pain is better. Can't stand for any length of time, can't walk long, run at all, or do any aerobic activity. I regret agreeing to the IDET and wish I had had more patience with the natural healing process of my disc!

 
Old 05-21-2003, 02:49 AM   #9
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Bcorica,
I agree with everyone get a second opinion. Your lawyer should be able to answer most of your questions.
I have been on w/c for 17 years. social security since 1991 Iam totaly disabled.
I live in az and the laws may be different in pa but you should have the right to choose your dr. and no dr has the right to tell you cant have a second opinion.
Do your home work check on the internet talk to people. ask your lawyer if w/c will pay for a second opinion.It is your back and you have the right to
excellent medical care. Hope this helps you out

Good Luck and God Bless

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3 AVM Brain surgeries Janurary 1993
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headaches 5 to 6 times a week. Unable to work
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2 Cervical surgies w/fuson 1986
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3 AVM Brain surgeries January 1993
continous neck and lumbar
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headaches 2 or 3 times a week. Unable to work

 
Old 05-21-2003, 03:06 AM   #10
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Hi
I was having trouble sleeping ( suprise !)

I re-read your first post on this. And I think I got mad at your Dr for you !!!
How dare he tell you no???

Okay seriously, almost all insurance companies even those that are WC underwriters want or respect a second opinion. This is not only to show that you are serious about your health, but that you are not wanting to go thru unnecessary surgeries and run up bills and so on. A second opinion is a validation in most cases, not a contradiction.
I had a very trusted surgeon who recommended surgery for me, BUT I called and got the name of the biggest jerk Dr I could find for my second opinion. Two total ends of the spectrum when It came to who would hold the knife, but then I knew I was doing the right thing.
As for WC online there are every states laws. read thru them.
Do not call your Dr for permission to get a second opinion. get a name from a medical referral service out of the phone book or from a friend or anywhere.
And even though I know this is hard to try to do, do not let this consume you. The stress and tension make the pain alot worse. Find a way to calm and relax.
I still have to remind myself of that, so I know it ain't easy!
your lawyer should also be able to ease your mind in what is going on in your case, but if worrying about it all makes you worse let him do his job thats what he gets paid for.
Your task is to get you as close to normal as you can get

L

 
Old 05-21-2003, 06:36 AM   #11
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Brenda,
just a short note to let you know I got a w/c lawyer
a few years after I was injured he gets a small amount
of my money each month but for me it is well worth it
w/c very seldoms messes with me. any problems the lawyer takes care of it immediatly(sp) In my opinion keep your lawyer until your case is closed W/C can not contact you or you them it all goes through the lawyer
my money is sent to the lawyer he takes his % and sends me my check like clock work.

keep us posted

Good Luck and God Bless

Wayne (azkikn)

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2 Cervical surgies w/fuson 1986
lumbar partial disectomy April 1992 & 2002
3 AVM Brain surgeries Janurary 1993
continous neck and lumbar
pain.Pain going down both legs. Migrain
headaches 5 to 6 times a week. Unable to work
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lumbar partial disectomy April 1992 & 2002
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Old 05-21-2003, 08:05 AM   #12
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Brenda...

contact your lawyer... he/she is getting paid to represent you.... you won your case? so he/she thinks they're done? Wrong.... I have a dear friend who has had w/c for over 15 years...fall at work, so they pay for her pain meds and chiro...when she needed surgery w/c said NO cuz it was due to Arthritis! HeLLOOOO - arthritis starting in area of injury!!!! Ofcourse it will!

Anyway.. as someone else said - this is your life, your back... and JUST TEARS??? Good God... my MRI showed small bulge, my pm doc thought it was tear bcuz of my pain level.. discogram... YEP - tear w/ big old leak - right onto nerves.. the stuff inside disc is Caustic to our nerves - hence the pain!!!! Your doc sounds like an idiotic money grubbing out for himself jerk!!! Only go to his facilities??? Please... he is milking you for all you're worth....

I will tell you something my Mother said to me many years ago.... we can only be abused as long as we allow it..... That empowered me to get out of a bad relationship.... that is what we have with doctors, too - a relationship - and yours sounds like you need a divorce!

Good luck... calm is good... better for pain... I hope you get some relief!!!

Karen
ps... I just re-read your post... your doctor told you that it was no big deal w/ those tears... won't 'let' you get 2nd opinion, and won't refer you to specialist? I would consider suing him... you could be making things so much worse... I am not normally a sue-happy person by any stretch of the imagination... but, this just irks me... he (doc) could be doing you bodily harm by refusing you... I had to read where you were from (thought it had to be out of country) but, PA? Come on.. this doc is cruisin' for a bruisin [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img]
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12/00 MRI - PCP said nothing amiss - but, had to begin taking vicodin
2/8/02 - 2nd baby born after long, painful pregnance as weight gain
2000-11/02 various PT + pain meds
11/02 Referred to Neuro
3/03 NEW MRI - shows slight bulge L3-L4,slight DDD Neuro Refers to PM for ESI
3/03 PM Doc orders ESI
3/21,4/1,4/8 - ESI's no help
5/9 - Discogram - shows Tear L4 w/ significant leak onto nerves, DDD
Doc sched NEW discogram 'cuz performing doc oversedated, False Negative

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Old 05-21-2003, 08:30 AM   #13
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Hi Tezley,

How are you doing? Are you feeling any better? I have been wondering where you have been. How is work going?I want you to know that I read your post about surgery and I agree with you. I felt so bad for you and my heart goes out to you. Your post is what really made me decide that I should get a second opinion. You had made some really good points, especially the one that says don't look for a quick fix! I think that is what I am looking for, because I am having a hard time handling the pain. I want you to know that I wish you the best and I am so sorry that you are still having problems. It breaks my heart that you can't lift your little one up, when he wants mommy to, but in time you will. And when that day comes Tezley, I know that you will make it up to him. I know it is easy for me to say this to you, but things will get better, you will see! Stay strong and positive but don't be so hard on yourself.

I guess you can see the dilema that I am in, and it really sucks! There is nothing like having to deal with pain and then all this crap.

Yes, the doctor said to me that I only have tears, and it is not a big deal. I wanted to ring his neck. Disc tears ARE very painful and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I am not sure what is going on with me now, because ever since my discogram, he has told me that I have two torn disc at L4-L5 & L5-S1 with L4-L5 being herniated to the left. Yesterday however, he told me that my disc were only torn and its not a big deal so I don't need a second opinion.

Tezley, I am located 15 mins outside of Philadelphia. You made a very good point about the doctor doing the Nucleoplasty. I have had trouble with him returning my calls, and I don't want that to happen if I have a problem post-op. I called him I think it was Friday or Saturday because I was in a lot of pain after a Inra-Discal injection he gave me last wednesday. He never returned my call so I went to the ER. So thats a real good point and I never thought of that. Also, I do need to ask him how many surgeries he has done, and how many people are doing better and ect...I should be asking him questions! I usually just do what the doctors tell me to do, and I don't question it..I guess that is where I am going wrong.

As far as my GP doc, I think he is too involved with my case. I think he is worried about my case more then he is me. He always reminds me how I am lucky that he won me my WC case, and tells me my case was difficult because of my negative MRI and blah blah blah. I think he talks to my lawyer way to much. He actually kept me more informed on my case then my lawyer did. He has told me what was said in his deposition and who was there. He makes me feel guilty and he is very arrogant. I never realized this until last night after reading Backwoes reply, but he bullies me. I always knew it, I just didn't want to admit it I guess.

I have a lot on my plate right now. Hopefully I will look back on this in a month or so, and say wow that wasn't such a big deal. But I sure don't feel that way now. I will keep you posted on what happens.

Thank you for your great advice. I that one day, I can do the same for you.

God Bless,
Brenda [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif[/img]
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 08:50 AM   #14
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Hi azkikn

Thank you for your response. I agree with the second opinion. I should be able to get one with no problem, but the doc who has been handling my care doesn't think it is necessary. I am thinking about calling my lawyer, but my lawyer is good friends with the doctor, so I am not sure what will happen.

I also have to give my lawyer 20% of my weekly checks. It kind of bothered me at first, but if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be even getting a check.

As far as WC, ever since they reinstated my benefits, they have been good to me. They even paid my lawyers fee instead of it comming out of my money. In the beginning, WC was horrible, and so was the adjuster! Since winning my case and being reinstated, I now have a new adjuster. I am not allowed to call WC, because the lawyer handles everything now. Hell, WC even sent me a $800.00 check last week, because I won my case in January and they didn't start sending me my weekly checks until April, so they paid me a late fee. Now I get a check bi-weekly and it is never late!

I know that they won't give me a hard time about surgery or a second opinion. I guess that is why I am upset that my doctor won't allow me to get one. I just don't get it!

Anyway, thank you for your advice, and I will keep you posted.

God Bless,
Brenda [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif[/img]
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 09:24 AM   #15
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Hi Backwoes

I am sorry to hear that you are having trouble sleeping, I know that feeling all to well, so I am NOT surprised. I can see from the time you posted, that you must not have slept to good

I made a few phone calls this morning to some doctors, one of them needed a referal, which I can't give, and another one gave me a appointment for Friday. I guess they felt bad for me, cuz I told them what was going on as I cried my eyes out. I also put a call into the doc who did my discogram. I am waiting for a call back. What do you think about going to this doc? If it is not a good idea, please let me know. I think she is a Anestisia (sp?) doc, but she has my results from discogram. Give me your opinion on this, if you don't mind.

I will try not to let this consume me. I do think I was hurting more yesterday because of all the stress. I am trying to stay calm, and since I have been doing that, my mind is clearer and I am in less pain. I guess your mind is a powerful thing! The key for me is to stay calm and relaxed. How could you tell from my post, that I was uptight? I guess it doesn't matter...you came to my rescue as well as others and I thank you for that.

This has bee a very rough two weeks for me! I have been on my menstral cycle for almost a month now, and should be due for my regular period, and that is due from the stupid steroids, I have had to go to the ER for severe pain and fever for that Intra-Discal Injection, The ER doc sort of accused me of being a drug seeker, I have this thing called thrush in my mouth since the injection that is disgusting and it makes my mouth sore and I can't even taste my food and that is suposse to be from antibiotics, and low and behold...this crap! And how was your week???? I hope I look back on this and laugh. It can't get much worst then this...maybe I shouldn't have said that! Oh well what are you going do.

Backwoes, you have been a tremendous help and I want you to know that I really appreciate all your help and all your good advice. With friends like you, and everyone else, I will get through this. You are a in my eyes! I will keep you posted!

God Bless,
Brenda [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif[/img]
__________________
May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
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