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Old 05-20-2003, 10:50 AM   #1
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Question how do you all deal with the frustrations

Hi all: As most of you know I have been going thru WC hell and I was wondering how do you all deal with the frustrations. I saw my family doctor yesterday, and I told him I wanted a punching bag with WC adjusters face or voice on it [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] He looked at me and I think he was shocked by my statement. (I am usually the quiet type) anyways I think he was laughing a little bit about that too. I mean you can only walk so far, and do so much and the frustration is still there. I have been very careful not to take it out on people but let me tell you it's been hard. Screaming helps a little, I wonder if any of you heard me, but I so want to make the WC adjuster to feel this pain that I am in. Let him live with it for 8 years 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and say No you can't have that treatment. I have a court date on June 5. I pray that the judge makes them give me the surgery my doctor wants me to have. Sorry for venting. I just need to release this ick feeling you know.
Hope you all are having a pain free day.
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canadate for the prodisc surgery. have ddd in
L4-5 also have tears in L3-4, and L5-S1. Had the IDET in 2000. Have nerve blocks under sedation in C5-6 and
C6-7 . Still waiting for approval from WC. I am now getting severe leg pain, doing simple activites. May have 3 bulding disc in neck,
c4-5, c5-6 and c6-7 have numbness in legs and arms.
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I had the prodisc surgery at level L4-5 on October 9,2003. I have L3-4 and L5S1 starting to go bad... but will look into that in the future. Epideral blocks are helping.

 
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Old 05-20-2003, 10:59 AM   #2
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I am so sorry that you are having such a frusterating time. I am to the point that I hate all doctors (except my back doctor). I get frusterated just dealing with doctors but thank goodness I don't have to deal with WC. The only way I deal with my frustrations is by crying, I wish I could scream, shout, hit, and kick but I think my husbang and kids wouild think I've lost it. (At times I feel I have.)I wish I could help you out! I just wanted you to know that we are here for you and I will keep you in my ptayers!

I hope your days goes better and I will be here if you need to yell more!!!

 
Old 05-20-2003, 12:00 PM   #3
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Hi Isillyme,

O.K. we live close enough to drive together and go get your adjuster, we can make him regret how he treats you [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img]

Do you think we could stop and see my little friend "Jessica" when we are done ??

I'm ready to take them both on at the same time !!!!

Vent away, it's good to get it off of your chest.

I'm still praying that the court date goes well for you

Be Well,
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Two level laminectomy fusion L5-S1 & L2-3 done on 12/6/02.
Fifteen inch scar from the very top of butt crack (sorry), to the bra line.
BAK cages, rods & screws.(Titanium)
My pelvic bone was used for grafting.
Praying that the other two discs in between, won't have to be fused later, as I was told it was a possibility, due to the other two discs in between, not being in that great of shape.
Doc didn't want to fuse four levels, unless it is really necessary.
I would hate to repeat the surgery, as the recovery period, is so very painful.
I also have a free fragment in my T11-12 area, that I'm still refusing surgery for, at this point in time.
That surgery is way too dangerous for me to consider, until if affects my being able to walk.

 
Old 05-20-2003, 12:03 PM   #4
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Hi Isillyme,

I forgot to ask, what did the doctor say about the BM issue ? Is it back related ?

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Two level laminectomy fusion L5-S1 & L2-3 done on 12/6/02.
Fifteen inch scar from the very top of butt crack (sorry), to the bra line.
BAK cages, rods & screws.(Titanium)
My pelvic bone was used for grafting.
Praying that the other two discs in between, won't have to be fused later, as I was told it was a possibility, due to the other two discs in between, not being in that great of shape.
Doc didn't want to fuse four levels, unless it is really necessary.
I would hate to repeat the surgery, as the recovery period, is so very painful.
I also have a free fragment in my T11-12 area, that I'm still refusing surgery for, at this point in time.
That surgery is way too dangerous for me to consider, until if affects my being able to walk.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 06:05 AM   #5
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Hi Maria
I know exactly what you mean. I have been thru several doctors, once I was hospitalized for 10 days and I had a neurosugeron say you miss are building a puzzle, meaning my case was complex. While at the hospital I developed serious tremors down my legs, but yet there is nothing wrong with you kind of syndrom. I have been thru Orthos, PT's, I actually fired a family doctor I had before I found a real one. Now that I have found an Ortho who did a discogram, saw that everything was happening, Which was what a chiropractor has said all along, I would like to have some kind of solution. I have had tried everything except for standing on my head, hmmm that might work. :grin: I totally understand what you are going thru. Thank you for your post I appreciated it.

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canadate for the prodisc surgery. have ddd in
L4-5 also have tears in L3-4, and L5-S1. Had the IDET in 2000. Have nerve blocks under sedation in C5-6 and
C6-7 . Still waiting for approval from WC. I am now getting severe leg pain, doing simple activites. May have 3 bulding disc in neck,
c4-5, c5-6 and c6-7 have numbness in legs and arms.
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I had the prodisc surgery at level L4-5 on October 9,2003. I have L3-4 and L5S1 starting to go bad... but will look into that in the future. Epideral blocks are helping.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 06:12 AM   #6
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Hi Baxter
Yes put miss Jessica in the line up [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] it will do us some good. I talked to my family doc and he too feels it is part back related and some pain med related, he is leaning more towards it being back related as far as the bm is concern sigh. He is calling the GI himself, have me be seen, so things can be ruled out. Which was supposed to have been done at the hospital. Did I tell you I hate university Hospital. I too pray the courts rule in my favor, but I am facing the reality that they might not either. I don't know I don't want to get my hopes up again, and be let down again, I don't think I'll be able to handle that. All I do know is I can't keep living in this pure pain stuff, it is effecting me big time, and I am the type that can handle pain, but this is getting to be too much. Next week I have to see 2 IME's for the NO Fault injuries that should be real fun, not. I hope you have a great day. [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/love1.gif[/img]
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I had the prodisc surgery at level L4-5 on October 9,2003. I have L3-4 and L5S1 starting to go bad... but will look into that in the future. Epideral blocks are helping.

 
Old 05-21-2003, 03:10 PM   #7
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Hi Isillyme,

O.K. I added Jessica to our mission, maybe we should meet at Walmart and carry out the plan He-He !!

I'm like you, I can normally handle things, but lately I've had days that just drop me to my knees.
I wish our pain would just go away so we can get back to living.

I also hate University Hospital, I prefer to use Community for everything, it's so clean and the employees are always great to me.
I had my first three thoracic epidurals done at University just before my car accident that caused the lumbar problems, I was seeing Dr. Sebastian Thomas, Dr. Masten referred me to him, I couldn't understand a damn word he spoke, and I also couldn't understand a single thing the PA's were saying either.
Three strikes, I sent them packing and moved on.
I will never go there again !!

Oh how fun you get to do the IME exams, I actually never had a problem with any of the doctors that saw me, except that one doctor specialized in knee's, not backs, I was floored by that !! He didn't even know how to read my MRI's and Cat Scans, and actually admitted that fact.
I had to be seen in Favetteville for my visits with the IME's.
They even referred me for more testing and further MRI's, it wasn't like they were trying to save money.
They never ever gave me a hard time about anything.
Please make sure to charge no-fault for your lost work time, as well as your mileage, they will reimburse you.

I'll keep praying that the court hearing rules in your favor
If they refuse to cover the surgery, I think you told me that private insurance would pay, so at least you'll be able to get treatment, and maybe even sooner, although I agree, W/C should pay all !!

Please keep me posted, and I'm always around if you need to talk or vent [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif[/img]

My back is totally killing me today, I feel like ripping my doctor apart

I hope that you have an excellent evening

Be Well,
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Two level laminectomy fusion L5-S1 & L2-3 done on 12/6/02.
Fifteen inch scar from the very top of butt crack (sorry), to the bra line.
BAK cages, rods & screws.(Titanium)
My pelvic bone was used for grafting.
Praying that the other two discs in between, won't have to be fused later, as I was told it was a possibility, due to the other two discs in between, not being in that great of shape.
Doc didn't want to fuse four levels, unless it is really necessary.
I would hate to repeat the surgery, as the recovery period, is so very painful.
I also have a free fragment in my T11-12 area, that I'm still refusing surgery for, at this point in time.
That surgery is way too dangerous for me to consider, until if affects my being able to walk.

[This message has been edited by BAXTER (edited 05-21-2003).]

 
Old 05-22-2003, 10:05 AM   #8
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Hi Baxter
It's funny you mentioned Dr.Thomas, they did a nerve block while I was hospitalized, and the nurse practioner they had my Pain management clinic FIRED HER because she wasn't any good. She was great at prescribing all these drugs, but she never really examine anyone, or really listened to the patient. I actually complained to the doctors about her, along with a few other patients. Dr. Masten did my discogram after he did the painful exam, he want oh my you need surgery and soon. Then he couldn't recall what happend 3 months later when I had to go into the ER in March hmmm I think his brain was a little fried then. I do have a couple of doctors that are licensed at community general and yes you are right, they treat you very well there, and they don't treat you like a nut case I hope your back begins to feel better soon, what is DR Zogby doing about it. What did the MRI show? Have they even called you back at all yet? I am still waiting on the GI doctor to call me, and my own family doctor called him as well, I am starting to get annoyed with them as well. I am getting some really weird new symptoms down my legs, and I have been taking it easy all day, I don't feel like falling down stairs today. So I hope you have a better day today, and I will check in with you soon.
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I had the prodisc surgery at level L4-5 on October 9,2003. I have L3-4 and L5S1 starting to go bad... but will look into that in the future. Epideral blocks are helping.

 
Old 05-22-2003, 11:28 AM   #9
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Hi all. Just a little note about WC. If they're giving you a hard time - and you have regular insurance - then get them to give you a written denial of benefits (basically saying they don't believe it's work related and they're not paying). Once you have that, then your regular insurance will pay - they'll usually make you sign a statement saying that if you recover the costs from WC down the line you'll pay them back.
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This does not affect your WC claim and your attorney can continue fighting them and going after a settlement. The letter only gives *their* opinion, it does not mean that you agree, but as far as your insurance is concerned, if it's not work related or has been refused by WC then they have the obligation to pay for your treatment.
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This is what I had to do with my arm surgeries... good thing I did too, I already had permanent nerve damage and the WC case didn't finally settle for three more years!
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SillyMe: Good luck on your court case. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Take gentle care,
Bev

 
Old 05-22-2003, 01:08 PM   #10
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Hi Isillyme,

I know what you feel like with the leg pain, last night was the worst I have seen I seem to be doing better today, and I hope you are feeling better also.

I like Dr. Masten, but I decided to leave him and another doctor for Zogby. The wait for Dr. Yuan was just too long for me to handle at the time.
I bet we have even sat in the same waiting room somewhere together and din't even know it.
Are you familiar with Dr. Kowalczyk at all, he's a great PM doc, but a very busy one at that, he did alot of my blocks as well, heck, they have all had a stab at me one time or another.

One time Masten did a selective nerve block on me at four lumbar levels with no sedation what so ever, let me tell you, that was pure torture !! and that is when I decided to move on elsewhere.
Masten and Dr. Connelly have also both treated me for my thoracic problems, but neither is a specialist in that area, so when the time comes for that surgery, they will not be the guys for the job, I will be very selective at who I choose for that surgery.
Masten even noted in my file that my experience with Dr. Thomas and his (Thomas) group was not a good one, nor was it one that I cared to repeat.

I have a 2nd opinion with Dr. Wulff on 5/27, then he and Zogby will get together to decide what the best course of action is for me.
Rather than to repeat the MRI findings here, please check out my 5/19th thread titled "Hi L5S1 Update" that will give you all the details.
Basically I'm a mess from head to toe, including my neck, plus my other levels are now worse since the surgery, so we are in the same boat together

I'm concerned about my leg pain as well, I wasn't able to take the aspirin or blood thinners after surgery, so I have told Zogby that I'm concerned about blood clots in my legs, and I don't want this to cause a pulmonary embolism problem down the road, he assures me that the leg pain is all nerve related, but I will address that with Dr. Wulff as well and see what he has to say.
I know a few people that Wulff has done surgery on, they say he is really good, and that they feel comfortable with him, so that makes me feel better.

I sure hope you hear back from the GI doc today, don't you just hate the waiting ??? It drives me crazy [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img]

I'm hoping that things fall in place for you soon, you don't deserve the BS that W/C is putting you through.

Wow, have I rambled on or what ?? Sorry

Please keep me posted.

Take Care,
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Please let me know what you hear from the GI,

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Two level laminectomy fusion L5-S1 & L2-3 done on 12/6/02.
Fifteen inch scar from the very top of butt crack (sorry), to the bra line.
BAK cages, rods & screws.(Titanium)
My pelvic bone was used for grafting.
Praying that the other two discs in between, won't have to be fused later, as I was told it was a possibility, due to the other two discs in between, not being in that great of shape.
Doc didn't want to fuse four levels, unless it is really necessary.
I would hate to repeat the surgery, as the recovery period, is so very painful.
I also have a free fragment in my T11-12 area, that I'm still refusing surgery for, at this point in time.
That surgery is way too dangerous for me to consider, until if affects my being able to walk.

[This message has been edited by BAXTER (edited 05-22-2003).]

[This message has been edited by BAXTER (edited 05-22-2003).]

 
Old 05-22-2003, 06:57 PM   #11
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Hi isillyme

I am sorry to hear that you have been having a rough time If it makes you feel any better, I am feeling just as frustrated, but for differant reasons. I understand how you feel about w/c and the adjuster. W/C put me through hell up until January. They denied my claim and stopped paying me, until I got a lawyer and won my case in January. I swear they will do anything possible to make you miserable. As far as my adjuster, I HATED her with a passion. She would call and harass me all the time. I swear it is there job to frustrate you and break you down. Try not to let them do this to you.

What kind of surgery are you having done? I am so sorry that you have to go through this. There is nothing worse then having pain and then have to be put through what you are going through. I didn't know that w/c can deny you of having surgery. Why are they doing that? I hope they don't try to pull that with me. But with the luck I have been having lately, it will probably happen to me too!

If you feel the need to scream and vent, go for it! That is what we are all here for. I think everyone needs to release their frustrations in some way.

I hope and pray that you win your case on June 5th. I hope that you are able to get your surgery so that you can begin to heal and become pain free.

Good Luck,
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May 2002: Injured at work
June 2002: Had MRI
June 2002: Had ESI's
July 2002: EMG
Feb 2003: Prolotherapy
March 2003: Discogram, Showed left posterolateral radial tear @ L4-L5 and more diffuse annular tear @ L5-S1.
April 2003: Transforamital Injection
May 2003: Intra-Discal Injection, Finally got some relief from the hip, groin, butt and leg pain. This injection worked the best!
May 2003: Second Opinion, Doctor Suggested Disc Replacement as my only option.
May 2003: Postponed Nucleoplasty
June 2003: Went to Psychiatrist for depression.
July 2003 - Present: Trying to take one day at a time, and learning to adapt to a new way of life.

 
Old 05-24-2003, 10:34 AM   #12
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Hi Baxter and everyone
Thank you so much for your posts, it helps to know that I am not alone in this. There is a main reason why I am going to court for this and not thru my main insurance. The WC adjuster has lied, to my attorney and my PT has documented this all do well. The surgery is for the ADR surgery, we have been waiting for approval for this since November. I had a car accident in Januaray and now the WC adjuster is saying until my neck is better will be approve this surgery. The ORTHO wants to do this surgery asap, as the symptoms are getting worse, and if I have to keep waiting I will end up with more nerve damage. The adjuster told my attorney he approved pt he has not. He feels we shouldn't even go to court for this, that we should settle everything out of court. He is trying to cover his butt. I was taken out of work for 3 weeks at the end of march until april and didn't get paid for it, the adjuster was trying to blame that on the accident as well,even though that is also documented that was for my back. I am working on getting the adjuster fired. He has been playing games, and everything has been well documented. I have been thru alot with this jerk since november, and it just keeps going. Thank you everyone for your prayers, I really can use them. I have tried everything for my back from nerve blocks to the idet, you name it I have tried it, and nothing has worked.
Baxter: My chiro tried to get me in to see Dr Zogby one time he wouldn't see me at all, it was a watertown doctor who got me to see DR Yuan, we probaby did see each other in the waiting room and never even knew it I see Dr. Tiso's group for my pain management group they are pretty awesome. They know my history well, but I didn't really understand why they were upset that they didn't do the discogram, all though I would have prefered them to do it, with university hospital they had me sit in a chair for 2 hours before they even did it, that was probably how the discs got going before the tests. Me and sitting is not a good match. I am glad I never settled out with WC with my case, I am only 37 years old, and I don't even know what to expect when I turn 50 if my back is this bad now. I hope you all have a great memorial day weekend. [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dance.gif[/img]

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canadate for the prodisc surgery. have ddd in
L4-5 also have tears in L3-4, and L5-S1. Had the IDET in 2000. Have nerve blocks under sedation in C5-6 and
C6-7 . Still waiting for approval from WC. I am now getting severe leg pain, doing simple activites. May have 3 bulding disc in neck,
c4-5, c5-6 and c6-7 have numbness in legs and arms.
__________________
I had the prodisc surgery at level L4-5 on October 9,2003. I have L3-4 and L5S1 starting to go bad... but will look into that in the future. Epideral blocks are helping.

 
Old 05-24-2003, 11:30 AM   #13
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Hi Isillyme,

Wow, we sure have one thing in common, getting the royal screw [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif[/img]

I'm so sorry that the adjuster is such an as*, it's not right that he keeps blaming everything on the car accident, it doesn't surprise me one bit though, they all love to pass the buck, and they seem to care less about the patient.
I'm praying so hard that you can win the case, and that they will approve the ADR as soon as possible for you.

I was just wondering, has W/C ever paid for an ADR procedure for anyone in the past ?
The reason I ask, is that it seems like from what I read here, that the bulk of insurance companies are refusing to pay for that procedure until it becomes FDA approved.
I was wondering if W/C follows that same policy, I sure hope not.

Why is that jerk insisting that you get your neck taken care of first ? it seems to me that one has nothing to do with the other !!

We have more in common also, I'm also 37 years old, but I feel like I'm 90 !!
My biggest problem right now preventing me from working is also sitting, I can fully relate there. Grr!

I wish the L5S1 was not my problem area, it seems like alot of people fused at that level have problems like I do, my other fused area L2-3 seems just fine, so I'm so mad that fusing the L5S1 has caused all of this trouble for me.
Sitting sure plays such an important role in our daily living, as we can't be expected to stand for the rest of our life !!

I feel so bad about the way they are treating you, it's bad enough just having to deal with one problem, but for you to have to battle both issues at the same time, sure has to very frustrating.
That is why I'm only dealing with my lumbar now, the thoracic will be done later, as that was not accident related, I just don't have enough fight left in me to address both concerns right now.

I know a few people that go to Tiso's group, they all speak very highly of them, so at least I know that you are in good hands with them.

Why wouldn't Zogby see you ?
Maybe because he already has too many patients now ?

I'm available today if you feel like tracking down the W/C adjuster [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] just give me a holler, and I'd meet you in a minute.
Seeing how it's such a crappy day out, we might as well keep ourselves busy

I have both my fingers and toes crossed for you, I'm so glad that we can relate with one another, it really does help to let it all out to somebody that is going through the same thing, although I wish it was easier for both of us.
I'm getting so used to having doors slammed in my face lately, I seem to keep falling back a few steps every day.

I'm also very concerned about what we will both be like at 50, some days I wish I wouldn't even have to make it that long.
I'll keep fighting though, we can't let the pain win or rule our life !!

I'm here for you anytime you need me, I promise.

Have a super weekend !!

Be Well,
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Two level laminectomy fusion L5-S1 & L2-3 done on 12/6/02.
Fifteen inch scar from the very top of butt crack (sorry), to the bra line.
BAK cages, rods & screws.(Titanium)
My pelvic bone was used for grafting.
Praying that the other two discs in between, won't have to be fused later, as I was told it was a possibility, due to the other two discs in between, not being in that great of shape.
Doc didn't want to fuse four levels, unless it is really necessary.
I would hate to repeat the surgery, as the recovery period, is so very painful.
I also have a free fragment in my T11-12 area, that I'm still refusing surgery for, at this point in time.
That surgery is way too dangerous for me to consider, until if affects my being able to walk.

[This message has been edited by BAXTER (edited 05-24-2003).]

 
Old 05-25-2003, 09:29 PM   #14
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Hi Baxter
I had an interesting phone call from my attorney's office. The WC Adjuster wants to know why I am taking them to court. It seems he feels he has approved everything yeah sure he has. The actual ADR will be paid for, but the actual surgery itself won't be. Like the hospitalization stay etc.. it is scarey not to know what our lives will be like when we are 50 when we have so much pain now. I see my grandfather who will be 98 in august and I say wow I would love to be 98 someday, but not in this much pain I wouldn't. I want to thank you for being here, and it helps to know that you are also in my area, so that you know who the doctors are as well. The reason Dr Zogby didn't want to see me he didn't think I was that bad off. Alot of doctors thought the same thing until I went to see the watertown doctor. I tell you that watertown doctor took one look at the MRI films and he sent me to Dr Yuan right away. When you are feeling up to it, maybe we should meet for coffee someday and exchange information that would be cool. I have been working full time at my job, and my business is at home now so that is a huge load off of things. I feel alittle relief knowing that I can at least lie down during the day when business is slow. I can't wait until we open our pool up as well, I feel the need to do some excersizes in the pool to deal with the frustrations. We are getting royally screwed, but I am not going to stop fighting and it sounds like you are not going to stop either that's good. Maybe it's time we should do something about miss Jessica [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/hammer.gif[/img] heck even throw some water balloons at her, make her cool off some hey that's an [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/idea.gif[/img]
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