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Old 08-15-2004, 05:30 PM   #1
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For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

Does anyone know anything about prolotherapy and its affects on healing for the annular tear(HIZ). Or any information on their success and failed reports.
Ahhhh, can't stand this chronic pain anymore. Life really stinks

 
Old 08-15-2004, 09:28 PM   #2
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

Prolotherapy tightens up your ligaments. The tear has to heal on its own or do the IDET.

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I am a Prolotherapy success story but I didn't have a tear, just arthritis, synovial cysts, bulging disc, DDD, and loose ligaments causing SI dysfunction.

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Old 08-16-2004, 03:18 AM   #3
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

heal, I am in the same place as you, and boy is it frustrating! I have it in a different area si joint but know how bad it can get, does your dr. sugest prolo?

bette,
can I ask a few ? are you in the states? and did your ins. cover it? I have si joint dysfunction also and my dr. told me I need it fused. but I am holding off, god I have had my share of painful surgerys and am not in a rush, so I researched it and I was told that it is not recognized by ins. because it doesn't have fda approval??

if that is the case, I cant afford it. from what I have read. how many treatments have you had? how far apart? when did it start to work?

thanks for your time
godspeed
bee

seems 50% of folks get relief from it. glad you are one of them!


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Old 08-16-2004, 03:43 AM   #4
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

I did prolo for my si joint dysfunction and it worked! I am a success story as far as that is concerned. I tried it for my herniation on my thoracic spine and it did not do the same. I paid 10k out of pocket for it. It was worth the $ to me rather than getting my si joint fused. Are you sure the sijoint is your problem bee?

It did not work for me until about my 8th session. I was so inflamed after all of my sessions(about 20 of them) that I finally took iburophen. I felt much better then. My doc did not believe that I had more than sijoint problems. So we began to disagree about the pain meds.

If you have anyquestions please ask. I think it is worth taking out a loan if necessary, rather than fusing the si joint. That is a terrible surgery.

Colleen

 
Old 08-16-2004, 06:13 AM   #5
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colleen,
that is what I thought, a terrible surgery. I went to see the top ortho guy in NYU and he looked at all my reports and did an examination and told me if I had a shot , forget what it is called now, DUH anyway if I got any relief it was my main pain generator, and has been for a long time, it just went undx!!! makes me so mad, so many drs along the way that just blew me off!!! at least I have a dx. not that I like it. but I am not rushing into surgery, but I am in high levels of pain and have to do something! I am trying to go out of network with my ins. comp. so we will see.

there is a si joint specialist in atlanta georgia that i would love to see. i just feel that this is not such a welknown problem, and even the ortho guy at nyu said he doesn't do the surgery either, I would have to find a trauma surgeon.

also there is a spine place down in the pan handle of fla. that does si joint surgery laproscopicly. so it is in/out one day with a few small insitions, but of course most ins. dont recognize spinal surgery as out patient they do not cover it.

but I keep lookin! I have to find something that will go my way!
good luck, tell me your story...

mine is I have had pain for 20 plus years and finnaly had a fusion 2 level L4/L5-S1S2 in 2002. and have been in pain almost continually, even thou the dr. says my surgery was a sucsesss???? figure that out! but the bones have fused. it is the si joint and the level above my fusion has herniated they are the pain generators now.

so I am not alone!
bee

 
Old 08-16-2004, 09:36 AM   #6
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

Wow, I am sorry to hear of all of your problems. They did not diagnose me right away either. The doc in Georgia, don't remember his name, referred me to my prolo doc up here in D.C. I would ask him for someone to help you in your area.

Keep me posted.

Colleen

 
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

[COLOR=Red]bette,
can I ask a few ? are you in the states? and did your ins. cover it? I have si joint dysfunction also and my dr. told me I need it fused. but I am holding off, god I have had my share of painful surgerys and am not in a rush, so I researched it and I was told that it is not recognized by ins. because it doesn't have fda approval??

if that is the case, I cant afford it. from what I have read. how many treatments have you had? how far apart? when did it start to work?[/COLOR]

I am in the states.

I can't see any reason to get a fusion.

Insurance does not pay for it.

I had three treatments. I found my doctor through the net. I did a lot of research on him before going to him. Luckily he was in my area. I would have driven anywhere to get it done, though.

They allow you to put it on a credit card or take out a loan. It is well worth it. I would rather they stick needles in my back with sugar water than cortisone or do any kind of work that involved needles.

I read that the percentage of people that this helps is really high.

SI dysfunction, from what I have read, is when the ligaments are loose, they become like worn rubber bands. It is the ligaments that keep you all tighened up. There are no exercises that can tighten them back up. The sugar water injections re-injure them and cause them to tighten up. It is a very painful process. I thought that I wanted to die while I was having it done and during the recovery period. They are purposely inflamming you. Think of your worse pain, when a cortisone shot looks appealing due to inflammation, and the Prolotherapy is making you inflammmed. I was so happy that mine worked with three treatments. My tail bone and lower back has not gone out since that time. I can dance again. I can hula hoop. I can function without pain.

Now, when I mow the yard, or over do, I know that it is my arthritis, not my SI. The arthritis will always be there. It was caused when I was injured, tore a ligament, and didn't get any treatment right away. The bones were rubbing against each other. The arthritis won't get worse though, now that the ligaments are tuned up.

I know, a lot of people can't afford to do what we did. Prolotherapy is expensive. But, what is worth more, money or health? If I had not had the money to do it, I would have taken out a loan.

good luck,

 
Old 08-16-2004, 04:15 PM   #8
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

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thanks for the reply ! so do you think the prolotherapy is a shot of chance or just a waste of money down the drain?

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Old 08-16-2004, 04:23 PM   #9
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

[QUOTE=beebauser]heal, I am in the same place as you, and boy is it frustrating! I have it in a different area si joint but know how bad it can get, does your dr. sugest prolo?

bette,
can I ask a few ? are you in the states? and did your ins. cover it? I have si joint dysfunction also and my dr. told me I need it fused. but I am holding off, god I have had my share of painful surgerys and am not in a rush, so I researched it and I was told that it is not recognized by ins. because it doesn't have fda approval??

if that is the case, I cant afford it. from what I have read. how many treatments have you had? how far apart? when did it start to work?

thanks for your time
godspeed
bee

First, im not too aware about si joint dysfuction and i don't see if that is similar to mine but thanks for your reply. I am running thin with money and if I weren't getting married soon i would have more money for myself to take care of. Anyway i work part time as a graphic layout for night shift. There isn't too much lifting in my department and I work about 20 hrs to 25 a week. My insurance only covers some of procedures.

I still have same problem and nothing is fixed or better.
maybe you misunderstood
had chiropractic, accupuncture, PT, ESI, and considering prototherapy
keep in touch
bye


seems 50% of folks get relief from it. glad you are one of them![/QUOTE]

 
Old 08-16-2004, 05:09 PM   #10
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Re: For Everyone Who has Annular tear or has done Prolotherapy

It was worth the $ for me!

Colleen

 
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