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Old 01-22-2005, 09:42 AM   #1
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How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

Anyone have their doctors tell them they had a leak in a disc? That's what my doctors told me after my discogram. My main back guy now (he's a pain manag. specialist) said that could very well be what is causing my center back pain.
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had had experience with this problem, and if it was fixed. If so, how was it fixed?? I'm getting desperate.

 
Old 01-22-2005, 09:57 AM   #2
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

heidi, think of your disc as a jelly doughnut. The outer layer of your disc has torn somehow and the inner jelly is leaking out. Your discs do not have a blood supply so it is difficult for them to "heal". What is your doctor doing for you at this time? I am no doctor but it seems to me you should be doing some pt to strengthen your core. This will reduce pressure on your disc and increase the likelyhood of it getting better.

This is not a totally uncommon injury and odds are you will get better. The far majority of disc injuries heal on their own. It may just take time.

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Old 01-22-2005, 10:15 AM   #3
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

I appreciate your taking the time to respond Al, but in this case even all of my doctors long ago became convinced this isn't going to heal on its own. This has been going on for almost three years, and I've had physical therapy up the wazoo. That did not resolve the pain.
Now we're going to try cortisone shots again, but I was wondering if anyone had had anything else work for this problem.

 
Old 01-22-2005, 10:25 AM   #4
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

I have had a tear since "99" to my knowledge it has never healed I did Pt ESI inj. all of it they wanted to do IDET but my ins. denied and frankly I'm glad as I have found the rate for it to be succesful is low.
I wish I had advice for you as to what helsp I don't as was said most usually it heals on it's own but when it doesn't then it just leads to further problems as in my case.
I really wish you the best of luck in finding a answer.
Linda

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Old 01-22-2005, 10:26 AM   #5
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

I did the shots a few years ago and they did help me for a couple of years. But, it seems they have wore off and now I am back to square one again with pain, meds, and p/t.

 
Old 01-22-2005, 10:47 AM   #6
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

Heidi: how is the prolo going? I was hoping to hear a success story as I was thinking about another session this next month by another doctor.


 
Old 01-23-2005, 12:01 PM   #7
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

[QUOTE=injured betty]Heidi: how is the prolo going? I was hoping to hear a success story as I was thinking about another session this next month by another doctor.
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Hi Betty - I've decided to end the prolo for now, and focus on healing my center back pain instead, because that problem has gotten so bad. I'm satisfied that the prolo will keep my S-I in place for awhile at least; but I do wonder if eventually the muscles or whatever will loosen back up and I'll need more. I'm just in such a depressed mood right now; my back hurts all the time and I'm so sick of it.

 
Old 01-23-2005, 12:03 PM   #8
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

Thanks everybody for your replies. It helps to know at least someone else here is in the same boat, even if being in that boat sucks.

Sorry, bad attempt at humor. But please post on the board if you find anything that proves successful!

 
Old 01-23-2005, 12:14 PM   #9
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

Heidi,
One of the reasons that I was asking is that they told me that I need another treatment or two and if I do not get it, then the bulge at L3/L4 might get worse and leak or herniate. Maybe that is what caused this, too loose of ligaments. If I were you, I would go ahead an tightened up the ligaments and get that out of the way so that if they take care of your back problem, your loose ligaments don't cause further problems.

I was told that my bulge stemmed from the torn ligaments, the movement and then caused the bulge.

But then, who knows if the doctor are correct. They all have different stories/diagnoses.

Take care,

 
Old 01-24-2005, 12:40 AM   #10
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

[QUOTE=heidi23]Hi Betty - I've decided to end the prolo for now, and focus on healing my center back pain instead, because that problem has gotten so bad. I'm satisfied that the prolo will keep my S-I in place for awhile at least; but I do wonder if eventually the muscles or whatever will loosen back up and I'll need more. I'm just in such a depressed mood right now; my back hurts all the time and I'm so sick of it.[/QUOTE]

Heidi, you are not alone in your pain. When I started pt 3 weeks ago, I felt 90% better by the second week, then it all started hurting again & now it's so bad, I feel I'm back at square one with the pain!

I don't think this group of PT's is as good as the ones I previously saw, but am going to make appt with a pain management clinic this week, as I can't take the pain anymore.

I didn't take a pain pill when I got up today, thought it didn't feel too bad so thought maybe I could go without, I actually did for several days after starting therapy.

Grandkids were over & we were watching them, I got so shaky from pain, I couldn't wait for their parents to come get them. It was horrible, I won't skip a pill again.

I feel so much like a vegetable, can't go anywhere, have missed out on so much this winter, this has been going on since Nov.
All I can do is lay around & watch TV. When it started to feel better, I did some laundry & a few things around here & I assume I messed it all up again.

I am so sick of this pain & being cooped up & not being able to do or go anywhere, just wanted you to know you are NOT alone. I even have hard time being on here, have to limit my time or get really sore.

 
Old 01-24-2005, 04:13 AM   #11
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

Do you have an orthopedic spine specialist, one with a spine fellowship?

 
Old 01-24-2005, 06:53 PM   #12
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Re: How to fix a `leak' in a disc??

From what I understand, eventually the tear in the outer disk (ligament) will heal over with scar tissue, but the disk will always be compromised and weak, and prone to re-tear.

I went 2 years myself with a tear, probably longer, until it herniated onto the nerve and i got drop foot. then had surgery and surgeon said disk was torn top to bottom, and inner disk material (looks like crab meat) was sitting in the opening of the tear, holding it open. so he shaved that off, allowing the scar tissue to seal over the tear.

He said it made it hard for it to heal wiht that disk material sitting right in the opening. Usually they heal on their own, but it takes many months. I was told 18 months to firmly heal a tear. Even though the surgeon said they usually heal over in 6 weeks with scar tissue.

It's really not clear. I think that we mistakenly think that once the tear heals with scar tissue that we can go back to doing what we used to do, and that's not realistic, and people lift or bend and lift and retear it all over again.

 
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