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Old 03-16-2005, 04:37 AM   #1
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Can someone help pls (a bit Stressed here)

Make a long story short had last visit with phsical medicine doc (injection doc) yesterday. But he made feel like a whiner but I had been seeing him for like 3 months and I loved him. Had told me 2 weeks ago that he couldn't do anything for me but I recieved a letter from insurance comp. that they approved 12 more injections to him (that makes no sense correct). So before I left he was explaining a fusion very badly (like they are gonna put big huge steel bars in your back and real big nail and pound on u) stuff like that. I was very hurt by this(really liked him, i thought) but I was wondering is he upset that I have decided it was time to move on cuz what he was doing wasn't helping me. I have a totally dehydrated L5 disc w/bulge in L4. This has happened in just 6month period between MRI's.( L5 had liquid with no bulge in L4 ) and what is to expected at spine doc I know this probably a weird question but husband is in Iraq and I have no family or support during this time of need. I read this board faithfully everyday trying to figure out whats going on. Thank you for all that respond..

 
Old 03-16-2005, 05:21 AM   #2
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If I understand correctly, the injection doc has determined that the injections are no longer helping and it's time to turn you over to a spine surgeon?

The insurance company can approve more injections, but that doesn't necessarily mean they know that to be the right course of action. It just means your plan will allow for more if the doctor feels that's the way to go.

If it were me, I'd move on from the injection doc - consult with a spine surgeon and see what their opinion is. You'll likely find they'll explain it better too. Make sure to take questions to ask, such as why and how has it been determined that its time to move from the injections to surgery. I have also asked the question of "would every doctor I consult with agree that surgery is the logical solution." I usually get a good feel from their answer as to whether they are knife-happy or whether it's cut and dry (no pun intended) that surgery is the way to go.

The bottom line is that only you will be able to determine when enough is enough and that surgery is your last hope.

 
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:56 AM   #3
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Re: Can someone help pls (a bit Stressed here)

YOU do have family support - consider yourself adopted by all on this board


Tx said everything I would have after seeing your post!

Consider this a positive thing in that now, you'll see a spine doc and hopefully he'll be compasionate, knowledgable and your answer to a better back!

Get another opionion, think over your options.

Keep us posted
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:37 AM   #5
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An approval for twelve more injections!!!! That is insane!!!!! At the price of one injection, no wonder he wanted to do more. They take him, what, a couple of minutes for almost $500? All the while he is putting poison in your body that didn't work the first time????

I would ditch this guy and look for someone that you don't necessarily have to like, but who is there to diagnose and correct your back problem.

Those twelve injections could have ended up causing more damage than you already have. Three is the max in a year's time. Was he going to spread them out?????

 
Old 03-16-2005, 11:22 AM   #6
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Re: Can someone help pls (a bit Stressed here)

[QUOTE=Quietcook]So sorry you are suffering, but welcome to this board.

Bionic Witch is right that you have support here, even though you cannot see our pretty faces. I also agree with getting a second opinion. I prefer ortho spine specialists (over general ortho docs) but many people prefer neuro spine specialists. A good ortho spine specialist has all the nerve training but a lot more experience with bone, and I guess I am so impressed by my great ortho spine doc here in Tennessee so I go that route. You do need a doctor who is more understanding and is willing to say who you need to see if he cannot get you better.

If you aren't familiar with doctors in your area, you can find doctor's info on your state's web site, probably under the health department which would handle licensing. There and on some AMA and other doctor search sites on the web, you should be able to sort them by specialities and obtain their educational background and info if any charges have been ruled against them. Maybe some acquaintances or your general doctor has some recommendations as well. Don't be discouraged if you have to go to several before finding the right doc. Finding the right doctor to work with is extremely important for your wellness. Be sure to ask the appointment clerks when you call to confirm that the doctor specializes in spines and isn't a general whatever.

Start looking today and when you set up an appointment, let them know you are hurting badly and need to be seen ASAP.

Best wishes and let us know how things progress.[/QUOTE]


Thanxs Quietcook, for all your support but hey I live in TN.thats really neat that you live here also....

 
Old 03-16-2005, 11:24 AM   #7
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[QUOTE=injured betty]An approval for twelve more injections!!!! That is insane!!!!! At the price of one injection, no wonder he wanted to do more. They take him, what, a couple of minutes for almost $500? All the while he is putting poison in your body that didn't work the first time????

I would ditch this guy and look for someone that you don't necessarily have to like, but who is there to diagnose and correct your back problem.

Those twelve injections could have ended up causing more damage than you already have. Three is the max in a year's time. Was he going to spread them out?????[/QUOTE]

Hey there and thanxs for your inquiring to my stressful thread..But he has been doing the injection every 2 weeks for the past 2 months. I sthis too many or is there something someone hasn't told me....

 
Old 03-16-2005, 01:56 PM   #8
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Three in a year is the max. You have had how many now? Eight in two months? That is nuts.

There is a lot of information out there on these shots. They contain poison. I am not being a radical. Ask to read the package insert. Most contain the same thing as radiator fluid. The insert states that they are not intended for the spine. They were only intended to be used as diagnostic tools. If they work, then you know that you had inflammation. If they don't work, then you know that something is causing the inflammation and they move on to try to fix it. Usually, with time, inflammation goes away on its own. But, people seem to want a quick fix and doctors want money, so shots are being given more than ever.

If the first three shots did not work, WALK AWAY

The ESI's cause tissue damage that is irreverseable. Why take that chance????

The last time that I went in with shoulder pain, the doctor did X-rays. She said, "Arthritis". I walked back into the exam room after the X-ray and she had the needle all laid out. I asked her why she thought that I wanted a ESI. She said that everyone did. She just assumed. A month later, after I stopped sleeping with my arms over my head, I no longer had shoulder pain without the shot.

There is an online publication that addresses the ESI's, The Burton Report. Educate yourself on this. The doctors sure are not going to tell you what you need to know.

Get an EMG. If it is a nerve, adddress the nerve.

I wish you luck in this. I know that a lot of people here swear by the shots, but I don't thin kthat anyone here would agree with the number of shots that you have had.

If you research a little farther you will find a disease that is caused by the shots, I can't spell it but it starts with an A. It is diabilitating. If I find it later, I will post it.


 
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arachnoiditis

 
Old 03-16-2005, 07:53 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=injured betty]arachnoiditis[/QUOTE]

Did Spiderman have that?

 
Old 03-17-2005, 04:15 AM   #11
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How about avascular necrosis?

 
Old 03-17-2005, 10:18 AM   #12
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Fly on the wall: That one is more closely associated with oral steroids.

 
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