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Old 04-24-2005, 07:44 AM   #1
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Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

I am post op 7 weeks from laminectomy(left side) L4-5 no fusion. I am having a lot of pain in my right leg,hip,back and can hardly turn myself over in the bed, I have to use the back of the head board to turn myself over much like I did the first few weeks after surgery.. My neuro has ordered pt for 6 weeks and off work for 8 weeks. I still cannot sit for longer than 15 min, or stand or walk over 30 without the back pain, still walk at a slow pace as if I increase the gait I get horrible pains in my back. . I just got a notice in the mail that wc is wanting a 2nd opinion.. my son says sometimes that they get a doctor to say that you are ok to get you back to work... anyone else know what this is about.Is this just procedure. Why would anyone want to live in this kind of pain. I have only been taking the pain meds when I need them(loratab), after reading about the comments that you need to take them as directed to keep the pain level under wraps, I am wondering, I was taking them every 6 hours as needed for pain after my surgery. I have been only taking them about twice a day and toughing out the rest of the day to try to get off of them... do you think that I am not doing it right??Am I trying to hard to get off of them too soon? Should I go ahead and take them every 6 hours to keep my pain levels down and see if that will help the pain at night..Is it getting ahead of me at night when I go to sleep. The neuro said that he lamy was only to correct the compressed nerve in my leg which that pain is gone , still have the toe numbness,Pain on top of the foot, weakness of my foot and ankle and a little butt pain when I sit but no shooting pains up my leg. I just have the horrible pain in the other leg which started after the surgery. Could it be a problem with the surgery? Could it be the additional disk starting to cause problems. I have earlier posted my Myelogram questins a while back if anyone wants to check it out. So lots of concerns and questions . Thank you. Leaf

 
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Old 04-24-2005, 08:22 AM   #2
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

Hello Newleaf,
Ive beening dealing with wc injury since 2002 yes that sounds like them. They do have drs out there that are on wc side and say your fine and should go back to work. They have done that so many times to me but thank god I have a good attorney. He has helped me so much. I tried going back to work in 2004 and it sucked pain couldnt even last 15 to a half and hour. As far as pain meds I guess I cant help you there because Ive taken so many that they dont work for me now. So I just have to live with the pain on a daily basis which is really hard when you have it 24/7.
Oh ya just to let you know that wc dr is not on your side wc pays them I thought that all drs where honest but there is those out there ( WC DRS)that will be caring and feel for you when you see them but then write that nothing is wrong Ive had 4 of them already. One also helped me to my car and said god bless you and then told WC that there is no reason I shouldnt be working. IF you dont have an attorney think about getting one.

Hope this helped a little
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Old 04-24-2005, 10:23 AM   #3
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

Thanks Kathy for the reply. I looked at the letter again and it says that the insurance carrier is requesting an independent medical examination.. the insurance company wanted me to get back to work for at least 4 hours a day and my doctor wants me to go to pt for 6wks and then see him back at 8 weeks and off work... so I guess they are trying to get another doctor to say I can work parttime. I can't sit more that 15 minutes at a time, can't stand, bend,lift,walk fast, not to mention the pain,back spasms..etc. no place to lay down at work to take a break.. this does not make sense , what kind and quality of work would I be doing for my job with these kinds of restrictions and in 4 hours and the frustrations of not being about to do a good job... that would be work 15 min,,, break 15 min, ... so I guess that 2 hours of actual work is that important to them!!!! And not my well being... I do office work. Just does not make sense to me.

 
Old 04-24-2005, 12:58 PM   #4
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Hello Newleaf,
Thats what they had me try but my dr said that I could only work 5 min then take a 15 min break and it was like why I cant do it but to prove them that I couldnt I had to have a QRC go with me and a physical therapist there to watch how my work affected me. Plus they paid for milage and they paid my hourly wage plus the QRC and the therapist wages their time and milage too.
Just to save a buck and in the end I couldnt even last 15 mins of work. They will try anything to save a buck. What ever you do if your dr says dont then dont tell them you cant . When I went to their dr he kept saying just try and I told him I cant it hurt. Finally he got the clue it hurts and I cant but they are very persistant on you trying even if it hurts you they dont care.
Let me know how things go and do you have an attorney yet?
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:06 PM   #5
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

Check Your State Laws!!! In Pennsylvania You Can Choose Your Own Dr. 90 Days After Surgery And Comp. Has To Pay. I Had A Problem Wit My Microdiscetomy At L5/s1 (scar Tissue And Abcess) And I Already Have My Second Oponion Done And My Next Dr. Lined Up. The Second Oponion Dr. Billed Comp. With No Problems And Is Waiting My Call After They Aspirate My Back For The Abcess And Send It Out For Testing. Please, Please, Get A Second Oponion And Check Your State Laws. The Comp. Dr. I Went To Told Me There Is No Problem In My Back And I Should Start Pt. And Work Hardening. I Said Fine If I Could Have A Second Mri To Make Sure Everything Is O.k. After Surgery. Boy Am I Glad I Did. I Have Scar Tissue Replacing The Herniation At S1, And An Abcess At The L4 Process. And He Said I Was Ready For Pt!!!!!!! Hope You Can Get That Second Oponion And Everything Works Well For You!!!! Trust Me, Speak Up Loud Enough And They Will Listen!!!!

 
Old 04-24-2005, 07:55 PM   #6
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

No I do not have an attorney. So if the doctor is not honest in his report and they say I have to go back to work, then what? Just go to work and do the best that I can? And if it gets too bad, just leave from work sick? My regular doctor has ordered 6 weeks of Pt,,, are they just not wanting to pay? Are they trying to establish some sort of sense as to see if I am going to have a permanent disability? Do they not trust my doctor's opinion? Or could it be because a 3rd party is going to be involved and they want them to pay?

 
Old 04-27-2005, 09:36 PM   #7
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

NewLeaf,

I have been going through my WC since 2002. I would look into getting an attorney (it doesn't cost you anything and you are allowed one it makes everything somewhat less stressful). WC and their Dr.'s will do anything to save a buck. I tried to play their game for two years and even got stuck having to go back to work causing me to have more heath problems in the end.

My point, take care of yourself and don't push yourself too hard. I wish I knew then what I know now. I could have saved myself a lot of pain of suffering. Feel free to ask questions if you wish.

 
Old 04-28-2005, 05:55 AM   #8
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

WC is a joke and so are the quack drs that work for them. I thought Dr took an oath that they would do what was in the best interest of the patient? I am off work for upper back and neck problems, I have had MRI, EKG, X ray and they can't find anything that is wrong. They say it is in my head. I know that pain is not in my head. I have been on my job in a factory for 11 years, if I didn't want to work, I would have quit a long time ago. WC sent me to one of their Dr and I was given a 5% disability rating and told that I was at maximum medical improvement. I was given permenant restrictions on my job, which meant I couldn't do my job. They sent me home on a special disability they offer for three months until they find me a job. They didn't fine one so offer me an option to resign with a settlement or they would try to continue to find me a job and after two years I would be fired. All with good standing. The company I work for says they have nothing to do with WC. I still hurt and go to the Dr again today. My PCP sent me to a joint and bone specialist. I have seen a neruo surgon once and have not been back. I think that is where I need to be. I do know that WC is going to try to offer me money to gorget this, but how can you forget something that causes you so much pain? I just don't understand how people can not care about another person. Maybe I feel this way because it is me going through it and not them. Money is the root of all evil, remember that. Dr. will take it under the table because insurance is so high. I just pray that the Lord will intervene and get me some real help.

 
Old 04-28-2005, 10:17 AM   #9
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

New Leaf,

Get an attorney ASAP. He/She can request another opinion with a QME if the IME says anything that is not consistent with your rehabilitation. Secondly, this new pain problem is concerning. You may need repeat imaging of the spine to check your postoperative status.

 
Old 04-28-2005, 11:24 AM   #10
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

I went back to my doctor because of the new and increasing pain and he did some more xrays and told me everything still looked ok and they he didn't see a new nerve problem and the I just needed to continue on with pt for 4 more weeks and is going to send me to a pain management doctor, he raised the dosage of my loratab's and they helped me so much to get more relief and sleep. I was better able to make more progress with my physical therapy today and that was wonderful. It was wonderful to know that I have not rehurt myself and that the pain is part of the continued healing process and I just need to give it more time... Leaf

 
Old 04-28-2005, 01:17 PM   #11
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

Well I'm in the same boat with W/C. I have been dealing with denial after denial for 10 months. I was suppose to have surgery on the 15th and on the 11th they denied after I had all my pre-op work done and was given the ok for surgery. Then the docter told my work that I was not allowed to work until after the surgery.Well guess what I got a call today from my job saying I have to come back to work for 4 hours a day. On all my pain meds. They made the doctor change his mind about my ability to work. I have a lawyer working on a court hearing to get them to approve the surgery. But if I don't go back light duty on monday they can fire me and cancel my W/C claim. wish me luck going back to work as a cna in a nursing home while taking percocet 10/650 every 4 hours and oxycontin 2 times a day.

 
Old 04-29-2005, 01:49 PM   #12
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

You know there ought to be a law.I've had 5 wc docs flat out lie on their reports and refer me back to work.Which was impossible for me to do.I went for a year without money because of it...lost my home and ruined my credit.I finally found a good attorney and eventually got straightened out.The reason I did not get an attorney initially was because I planned to just get myself fixed and go back to my job.I really wish you could suit these work comp docs because they destroy lives.I wish you well....but even if you are planning to return to youe job....get a good lawyer.It takes time even after you've retained a good attorney because the system works it's own pace.

 
Old 04-29-2005, 01:58 PM   #13
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Just a second. Did you call the doctor and verify that he changed his mind. Did he clearly tell you that he was going to clear you going back to "patient care" while taking opioids?

I can't wait to hear the answer to this. If so, that guy is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

 
Old 04-29-2005, 05:12 PM   #14
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Believe me, I can completely relate to WC doctors NOT! being on your side, they are paid by WC so they are definately NOT going to do anything for you.....My issue is not a WC issue, but I am being paid by Long Term Disability, through MetLife...4 of my doctors have said, "NO! she can not work." Then they sent me to THEIR doctor for an examination, and before leaving the room after the exam, he told me, "Honey you go home and take your pain meds and go to bed, I definately have to agree with your other doctors, saying you can not work, I can see you are in a world of pain." When he reported to MetLife, he wrote in his report that he had no reason to feel that I could not work, that he felt I was overreacting, or over exaggerating my pain....basically putting on.... and felt that I could function better then I let on.... HOW IN THE H$@L would he know!?!?!?!, he isn't inside my body, he doen't experience my pain on a daily basis, Who knows better the pain I experience then me???? and when I got his report and saw this, I called them and ask them exactly that... the only answer or comment they could give me was.... "I hear ya..I understand" I told them IF they ever send me for another exam like that, I am taking a mini micro tape recorder with me, to basically keep the doctor honest, because I was not getting screwed by another one of THEIR doctors....they didn't have a come back..... Anyway, I completely agree.... those doctors that work for WC or Insurance companies are only out for the companies, NOT US!

I am on 20 MG of Methadone a VERY strong Narcotic Med 3 times a day... and He said I could return to work, although I can not function on these meds....I do work in retail, heavy lifting, running machinery......VERY PHYSICAL..... he said I could go back doing a sedentary job, which where I work they don't have that option....and I have NO training doing any other type of work...but now I have been out for 1 year on Medical Leave so my employment has been terminated with my employer.... so now I am unemployed.... and I come up for reevaluation with MetLife the end of May....They had approved me until the end of May.... based on my other 4 doctors saying I CAN NOT WORK..... sedentary or otherwise.......... should be interesting...


Take Care..

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Old 04-29-2005, 06:37 PM   #15
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Re: Workers comp question-STILL in new different PAIN

et318, I called my nuero and they said that they were given the form to fill out saying that I could do something for 4 hours a day and he really didn't want to but was put on the spot. I asked him if he could refer me to a good nuero that wasn't in W/C pocket. When the surgery was denied 2 weeks ago he refered me back to my original pain managment doctor so he wasn't even my doctor anymore. I went to my pain managment doctor today and she said hell no your not going back to work, you can't go 15 mins without having to lay down and your on heavy duty pain meds. She wrote a nasty note to W/C case manager and told her NO WORK and she also told me that the letter from the doctor that my work delivered fedex today looked like it was changed around. almost looked fake. and she said how can this doctor that was going to fuse 2 disks 2 weeks ago say you can work now..I think that doctor might have some explaining to do. I told my lawyer what he did. I'm going to be holding my breath on monday until I hear if I still have a job.. wish me luck.

 
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