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Old 04-24-2005, 01:15 PM   #1
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I think the chiropractor made me worse.

Ever since Thursday when I went to the Chiropractor I have had pain shooting down my left leg that I did not have before. I just had a horrible experience with it. I was very gently putting some dishes in the dish washer and when I went to stand up my back spasmed and my left leg in the back tightened up really bad. It scared me to death. I managed to relax and take some ibuprofen and it has subsided but I think he did something to the disc that is causing it to make my nerve send signals to my leg to tighten up like that. I will never let my mom talk me into anything ever again. I am going try to get in to see my regular doctor tomorrow and schedule a cortizone shot. She offered it before and I said no. I guess I should not have been bending over like that. I have had not had a problem like that since I injured it 3 months ago.

 
Old 04-24-2005, 01:29 PM   #2
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

Kari

sounds like you have a full blown herniation.

stay off your feet, rest apply ice and SEE A MD tomorrow or as soon as you can.

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Old 04-24-2005, 01:43 PM   #3
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

I sure hope not. I had a disc protrusion when I went in there. If he caused it to herniate completely he is going to pay for my doctors visits. I suppose my doctor might order another MRI. I hope she does so I know if it got worse or not. I am wearing a back brace now that my husband bought the other day. I wonder if when they go in to do the cortizone shot and it is guided under x-ray if they can see how bad the disc is when they are in there.

 
Old 04-24-2005, 04:50 PM   #4
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

This does sound like a herniation now. You need to see your MD, and get a referral to a spine specialist. Your MD can order and MRI and have the results ready for when you see the specialist. Please don't go back to the chiro; so many people with bulges go and the manipulation causes herniation. A good chiro will not even touch the area of a bulging disc as they know the dangers.

Please let us know what you find out, and good luck.

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Old 04-24-2005, 05:07 PM   #5
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Yeah I would never dare go back to the Chiro. I hurt the next day so bad I had to lay on my stomach and I had taken 10 ibuprofen in about a 4 hour time frame and still had pain. I normally would never have gone to a chiro but My mom talked me into it and said what a great chiro he was. They have this special table that is made for treating disc damage. So it seemed ok to me at the time. I am calling my regular MD tomorrow and trying to get in to see her. My husband will be home to take me there. My doctor is so close I can see the clinic from my house and could walk there in about 5 minutes so that is nice. What exactly is a spine specialist? I have a Neuroligist that I see for migraine headaches would that be a good person? Is a spine specialist always a surgeon? I don't want someone who would automatically want to do surgery. I want someone who can figure out what is going on and treat it in other ways at first. What type of spine specialist is best for that. I know my MD wanted to refer me to a surgeon when this first happened and I really don't think it warrants surgery yet at this point.

 
Old 04-24-2005, 06:03 PM   #6
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Kari7171,

I take my daughter to a pediatric orthopaedic surgeon. He has a fellowship in pediatric spines/scoliosis. Even though he is a surgeon, he tried numerous nonsurgical interventions before ever suggesting surgery to us. I would assume the adult ortho surgeons would do the same.

I hope you begin feeling better.

 
Old 04-24-2005, 07:32 PM   #7
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Kari, most neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons will not want to jump into surgery right away. They will want to exhaust all conservative measures first. It does sound like your disc has herniated. Just get to your doctor asap and ask him to recommend a specialist to you if you are not familiar with any. (You could also ask your neurologist for a recommendation.) In the meantime, I would recommend ice, rest, and anti-inflammatories. I hope you get some relief soon.

 
Old 04-25-2005, 12:16 AM   #8
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

Chiros and disc promblems are a dangerous combination - I wouldnt trust a chiro as far as i could throw one - and having had a double fusion that aint a great distance

 
Old 04-26-2005, 06:53 AM   #9
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

Oh boy...

Perhaps a neurologist would be the first choice. If surgery is an option, don't go with an orthopedist. Try to find a neurosurgeon to do the work.

Good luck!

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Old 04-26-2005, 06:55 AM   #10
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Please don't lump all chiros into the same category. There are some excellent ones out there who really care about their patients and who know when to make a referral to an MD.

Please don't assume all chiros are quacks!

 
Old 04-26-2005, 07:54 AM   #11
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Dr V,
Have you had a patient who had worse pain after treatment on that disctraction manipulation table? I am just worried if I am worse now or if maybe things are just swollen and that is a normal reaction. It hurts down the back of my left leg now after treatment. I am also having problems with my left foot on and off I get pain and this morning it's numb somewhat. I also have been getting muscle twitching in my left butt, back of leg and calf and in my foot on the left side. The nerve is causing it I can tell. It follows a map down my leg of exactly the nerve that they told me was being pressed on. What do you think? I am not putting down all chiro's. What is your opinion as a chiro?

 
Old 04-26-2005, 08:14 AM   #12
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Re: I think the chiropractor made me worse.

Kari,

To paint with a broad brush, yes I have had patients who felt worse after one visit.

Unfortunately, I don't have detailed information about your specific case, and without looking at an exam or performing one it would be hard to give you specific information to your particular case, and whether what you are experiencing would be expected.

I wish I could help you more, and it is frustrating to see someone in discomfort and unhappy and not be able to help them.

But, I would recommend talking to the chiro and letting them know exactly what is going on. I always want people to be honest with me, because if my patients are not happy, I am miserable.

Ice is ALWAYS your best friend. Ice the aggravated areas for 20 minutes on, and 30 minutes off. It seems that whatever happened the area was aggravated (which is not unexpected), and ice will help with the inflammation.

I always tell people that when you get adjusted, you are "waking up" parts of the body that haven't been used for quite some time, or had been working incorrectly. It's kind of like starting an exercise program. If you haven't run a mile for a few years, and then you go out and run for 1/2 hour, you will be extremely sore the next day. The same goes for your back and muscles.

Just communicate with your doctors. If they blow you off or don't believe you, then write them off, because they don't care. However, most good health care practitioners can't sleep well at night if their patients don't. I know that is the case for me.

Remember that if you are not happy, let your doctor know so they can help.

And, to follow up with those other readers out there, it is extremely, EXTREMELY difficult to herniate a disk by adjusting them. Please don't assume that chiropractors are evil or uneducated.

Hope this all helps

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Old 04-26-2005, 08:18 AM   #13
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The SAME thing happened to me!!! But it's my right leg!! It happened two years ago and I'm in Horrible Pain so I'm trying to get help!! I go for another MRI Wed. I'm ready for this nightmare to be over !! My chiro. pushed on my low back where I had surgery in 2000. I hope we both feel better real soon!!! Good luck!!

 
Old 04-26-2005, 08:29 AM   #14
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Coco,

I am sorry to hear of your misfortune.

Talking about chiropractors, since we are on this subject...I will go off on a tangent.

Hearing stories like this gets me upset.

Chiropractic, as a profession, is somewhat divided (but the public doesn't really know about this).

You have "straight" chiropractic, and "mixer" chiropractic.

Straight chiropractors believe, in a large sense, that the primary role of a chiropractor is to adjust the subluxations found in the spine and the body will heal itself.

Mixer chiropractors believe that, yes, subluxations do exist, but there are other factors involved, such as muscles and soft tissues, nutrition, disease processes, disks, joints, etc. The mixers also recommend MRIs and work with MDs, including requesting labs (blood tests and chemical profiles) in an attempt to find out what is wrong with the body.

There are some chiropractic colleges that instruct "straight" chiropractors, and there are some that follow the "mixer" model.

The "mixers" are put through thorough training in diagnosis, anatomy (including a complete dissection of the human body), radiology, and physiotherapy. The students are also taught how to read EKGs of the heart, how to read blood test results (and what they mean), how to read and analyze blood chemistry test results, and others.

Many of these students actually "forget" about the "adjusting" component of their care procedures because they are drilled so hard on what the MDs do so that they are prepared to work with them and know when to refer.

As far as straight schooling, I am not familiar with their curriculum, but I can share that chiropractors must pass national board examinations in order to get a license. Some students from the "straight" schools have difficulty passing these boards because they are tested on diagnosis, microbiology, anatomy, and biochemistry, which are not heavily covered in some of their curriculum.

So, I hope that helps you all understand why there are some great chiros out there, and why some can make some huge mistakes that cause more pain, unfortunately, to some of you out there. Not all are equal...

Take care!

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Old 04-26-2005, 08:43 AM   #15
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Hi, after going to chiro's for years and finally having to have a 2 level fusion, I would't go back to a chiro either. I think that most times they do make things worse. Valley

 
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