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Old 08-19-2005, 05:17 AM   #1
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Extreme groin/hip pain

It's been a while since I've posted.
I'm having a problem in my right groin and hip.I can't cross my leg...have to be careful if I'm turning to walk to my right.I've had micro discectomy on L3L4 4 years ago...and I have bulging L4L5 and herniated L5S1.MRI did not show the L5S1 problem but a discogram showed clearly.
I've consulted several doctors the past few years...and they only seem to be concerned with leg pain...which I do experience,but not all the time.My back however feels like it's been broken and won't heal...and the groin/hip area is a constant aggravation...at tikmes if flares to extreme acute pain...on a scale of 1 to 10 it's a 13.
Why are the doctors not hearing my complaints?
I know I have a small inguinal hernia on the right side so I consulted a doctor on that...and he says it's small and wouldn't be causing me that kind of problem unless it was larger....he also says it's probably caused by my disc problems.
My spine specialist wants to take the conservative approach and put me into pain management.I've told him I've already done the ESI route and won't allow any more cortisone injected into my body....and I do not want the drugs.I've done that and I always feel like crap when I'm on these heavy pain meds.
Has anyone else here dealt with this problem...and if so have you found a doctor who can fix it? This is pushing 5 years now and I'm at the end of my rope.

 
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:36 AM   #2
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Read "Healing Back Pain" by Dr. John E. Sarno for an alternative approach. He has helped thousands.

 
Old 08-19-2005, 01:23 PM   #3
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Hello jaydar,
I too suffer from extreme hip pain and groin pain. Mine is on my left side. I was told by my ortho spine specialist that there is a ligament in your back that causes this pain. Right now my pain is a screaming 9. I am on pain medication from my pain management doc. I too will not take the shots because they do not help me. My pain doc did say that he could inject moraphine into my back and that might help. I have not had that yet. Well I have a friend who just had a fusion by an ortho spine specialist (all he does is backs) and he said that the last doc screwed my friends back up.(he had a prior surgery at a well known spine center) This new doc said my friend would feel like a new man. Well he is my test case if he feels better than he did when he went in I might go to his doc. Funny how we (people with screwed up backs) are looking for the magic bullet that can fix us. I guess we are just tired of feeling like crap every day. I know I am!!!! Well I do hope you feel better!!!!! Let us know what happens. TINCAN
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:42 PM   #4
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To put it simply surgery for back pain is not very successful. Leg pain on the other hand is from nerve root compression and surgery can often be of benefit. Also epidural injections can help with leg pain but again are not of much benefit for back pain.

I have been putting up with back pain for over 40 years and am now at a point of being disabled. Twenty years of excruciating attacks and chronic nerve pain before a fusion and then one year of recovery, five years of less pain then 17 years of leg pain limping and chronic nerve pain. So to the chagrin of many there really isn't an absolute solution. Backs are not like gallbladders that you simply operate on and it makes you all better. If only it were so. Sorry I really wish for all of us that there was an easy solution.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:02 PM   #5
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Ahhh, somewhere where people understand my pain! I had the chronic hip pain for 2 years before they found my problem. I kept telling them something was wrong and they kept saying I had bursitis in my hip. I told them people don't live with pain this bad and I have a high tolerance for pain (went off my pain meds 8 days after my double level fusion).

Not saying you have what I had, you probably don't because it is rare. They found a tumor in my spinal cord compressing the nerves and causing severe spinal stenosis. This caused my hip severe pain... could barley walk, could not sleep, cried a lot and had many other symptoms headache, ect...

They removed the tumo in Dec 04 and I was in the hospital 6 days, double level fusion with bone graft and removal of tumor. I felt better as soon as I woke up only the pain was in my left hip from the graft and my lower back from the surgery. But the leg pain, GONE!

4 months after my surgery I have the pain again... the doc said today, because it is getting worse, I will need more surgery. My fusion did not take and the pressure from my spodylilthesis is pressing on S1 and pushing on the nerves. I have to wait till Novemeber for surgery (because of work) but can't wait until it stops again. That 4 months was heaven even though it hurt.

I agree with what they say about back pain being hard to fix the leg pain I suffered then and now is worse than the back pain ever was though . I am on pain meds again. I can vouch for this though, the SURGERY was way worth it and once they fix my other problem I will be pain free again, at least in my legs!

I wish you the best!

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Old 08-19-2005, 11:20 PM   #6
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Re: Extreme groin/hip pain

Hey Jaydar
I feel You're frusstrations,I had a back injury at work on 6-15-05 I recently went to a doc and he claims my mri shows nothing to worrie about and that my injury is either or all of these a torn or stretched legimate and or tendon and or muscle tissue.When they do a physical on me I do have strenth 5/5 in my legs and arms, But when I walk for a short period of time I get alot of pain like pressure in my lower back,a cramping pain in my leg butt and calf,when I bend over I feel like ******* all over my self.I told this doc that I think that I should have a discogram done and he disagrees.
I have numbing in my front and side thigh and sometimes toes.What should I doo to get them to do another type of testing on me?

 
Old 08-20-2005, 07:07 AM   #7
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Can we tell our location on here? I am not from Charlotte but had to go there for my surgery and I can tell you of a really good doc in Charlotte NC if anyone is interested, he is a spinal surgeon and has helped me immensley! I can not say enough good things about him!

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Old 08-20-2005, 06:57 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=jaydar]It's been a while since I've posted.
I'm having a problem in my right groin and hip.I can't cross my leg...have to be careful if I'm turning to walk to my right.I've had micro discectomy on L3L4 4 years ago...and I have bulging L4L5 and herniated L5S1.MRI did not show the L5S1 problem but a discogram showed clearly.
I've consulted several doctors the past few years...and they only seem to be concerned with leg pain...which I do experience,but not all the time.My back however feels like it's been broken and won't heal...and the groin/hip area is a constant aggravation...at tikmes if flares to extreme acute pain...on a scale of 1 to 10 it's a 13.
Why are the doctors not hearing my complaints?
I know I have a small inguinal hernia on the right side so I consulted a doctor on that...and he says it's small and wouldn't be causing me that kind of problem unless it was larger....he also says it's probably caused by my disc problems.
My spine specialist wants to take the conservative approach and put me into pain management.I've told him I've already done the ESI route and won't allow any more cortisone injected into my body....and I do not want the drugs.I've done that and I always feel like crap when I'm on these heavy pain meds.
Has anyone else here dealt with this problem...and if so have you found a doctor who can fix it? This is pushing 5 years now and I'm at the end of my rope.[/QUOTE]

I had this pain for two years and ***finally*** got a doc to go in to take a look around four weeks ago and they removed tumors, scar tissue from shots and some cysts and I am as good as new. When I went back to see the doc, he was amazed. He had no idea that this would work. I just got back from a four day hiking trip where we hiked five to six hours each day. I was told that it was everything from a torn ligament to a herniated disc before the surgery. I ran the gamut and they were wrong. I found the answer on the net by myself and I was right. They biopsied the tissue and I was right on, on what it was. You might want to look these up. They were episacreal cysts (not sure on spelling)

Doc learn to do two things in medical school, cut and write prescriptions.

 
Old 08-22-2005, 07:38 AM   #9
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Thaks for the responses.It has been awful...There are days when I feel pretty good but then if I walk,say as far as a football field...my hip is agony.It feels like an overworked muscle type of pain.I'll have to bring the subject of cysts up with the doc.But wouldn't these have already been shown by xray,mri or discogram?

 
Old 08-22-2005, 07:50 AM   #10
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I think an MRI would show them with contrast. I had that test run and they found my tumor which they initiallly thought was a cyst. They had to do a CT scan to tell bone from tissue so they found out it was a tumor with the CT. This leads me to believe they usually see cysts on an MRI to.

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Old 08-22-2005, 12:14 PM   #11
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Nothing showed up on the MRI or CT scan that made them want to do surgery. I had to convince them and then when they went in, they found them. I guess that a lot of people have them, they just don't cause pain. Mine did.

I had a general surgeon with no vested interest in back surgery do the surgery. There was no insurance involved so I knew that he was not in it for the money so I feel good about what happened in the end, I was cured.

 
Old 08-22-2005, 12:56 PM   #12
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My injury is also work related.Comp insurers are tough and don't play fairly.I had to get a lawyer and went through H%$# because they wouldn't pay for nearly a year.I lost everything I owned. We finally got through that and settled with my medical on my back open.
Well I moved to Florida from New England..and went through the BS again just to see a doctor down here.A call to my lawyer cleared that up.Now I'm trying to communicate with this doc but he doesn't seem to hear what I am saying.
It's unfortunate that an injured worker has to get a lawyer to get the proper medical attention...but that is the system as I know it.My advice is to ask around for recommendations of a good attorney,because the sooner you do the sooner you'll get results.Like I said...it took nearly a year in my case just to see a judge...due to the clogged system in Massachusetts.
You have rights...but insurers won't budge until they get word from a lawyer. Good luck.

 
Old 08-22-2005, 02:10 PM   #13
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Moonlight......Interesting that they only found the problem during exploritory surgery.I know I have an SI issue...but have no explaination.I don't think my mri studied the sacral joints...just the lumbar.How did you doc do this? Did he/she go looking with a scope or was there a lot of cutting involved?Not that it matters...I'd have them cut me from stem to stern if I could get this fixed.

 
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I jumped all of the hoops, played the game, did the tests, PT, shots, to no avail. I was still in pain. I tried to tell them, from the start, that it felt like I had torn something and when it healed, it was all gummed up in there. It is hard to explain.

So, I started typing my symptoms into the computer. I came up with some obscure information on this condition. I went to one surgeon who told me that it was all in my head and that it would go away with time but it had been two years. I gave it enough time.

I took the information that I had printed out from the net to another surgeon who agreed to take a look around in my back. He said that if I was willing to pay, cash, he was willing to do it. I am scared to think of what the cost will be but, I am cured.

He found that I had indeed pulled and torn a ligament, thus the pain from my lower back to my hip to my groin. But, it did not heal properly. And, on top of that, cysts formed. Throw in scar tissue from shots and it was a mess. He pulled all of this out. It has only been five weeks and I am back to normal, every day activity which includes heavy labor. Yesterday I mowed our lot, an acre, with a push mower for exercise. I was hiking the coast this last week, 1000' drops.

I am not completely 100% and never will be. For some reason my body forms scar tissue more easily than most. I can feel where that area is forming scar tissue again, but I do my Yoga, religiously to keep it broken up and am going to see a massage therapist soon for the same purpose.

I had to be pushy and get a doctor to agree to take a chance that I had found my own cure. I had to offer cash. I had to hang in there. This was a WC injury but I let that go. I never collected on that part because I wanted a cure more than I wanted money. By all rights they owe me for this, but, luckily, in the end, it was an easy fix.

I will try to remember how to spell what I had and maybe you might check it out. It is rare, but it happens. This doctor had never heard of it before but now he is a firm believer. I was, in your face, this had better be the truth, after surgery also. I didn't want a snow job. He said that he was amazed at what he found.

Can you describe your symptoms, exactly? Where is the pain, pin point it. Does it hurt all of the time or at certain times, or after certain activities? Have you done all of the tests and the PT? Did you have the shots? They can and do cause scar tissue. That scar tissue can be a bugger.

Let me know,

 
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Cut wide open. I have two scars about three inches across on top of my SI joints. I am going to have faerie wings tatooed over them.

 
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