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Old 07-27-2006, 09:48 AM   #1
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Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

Hi everyone - 1st time positing on this board, but you all seem to be very helpful to those who post, so I was hoping to bounce my situation off your guys (and gals) in return for some advice. Here's the story:

Had lower back pain that got progressively worse over time, so I went to see a chiropractor. She had me a 3-day-a-week plan for about 4 weeks...until insurance stopped paying for it. Once insurance stopped, and I said that I had no intention of paying full price, we parted ways. I got a sales pitch (very sleezy, actually, considering I told her upfront that the treatment was only as good as what the insurance would pay for), but just could not do it financially. Anyway, I am now in MUCH more pain that when I started.

The pain resides at the very base of my back, on the left side only (actually, it is sort of on the top of my left cheek, if you will). Pretty painful, especially when I try to stand up from a sitting position. Any thoughts? Sciatic Nerve? Something pressing where it shouldn't be? Slipped disc? Any advice on what I should do next - excercises, see a real doc, etc.

Thanks in advance...

 
Old 07-27-2006, 10:24 AM   #2
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

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hi and welcome.
please run (if you can) don't walk to a spine specialist and at least get an x-ray that can be looked at by someone who knows what to look for. then maybe further tests down the line.
i understand the no insurance (i'm uncovered myself at the moment) but it's imperative to get a diagnoses before doing anything further that might make your back worse.
Not to panic you, but I've been there done that with the chiropractor, BEFORE seeing a spine doctor and found out that with my diagnosis, the last thing I should have done was go to a chiropractor.
Good luck and hope it's nothing serious. meanwhile try ice, it's a great pain reliever and helps with any inflammation or swelling.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:37 PM   #3
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

hey- sorry to hear you're having trouble with your back. For starters, chiropractors are not helpful for many types of back problems, and can in fact make things worse.

You really need to see a doctor if you can, because at least then you can try to figure out the root of the problem and work from there. If you don't really know what's going on then you can't really treat it.

before you go make sure you either think of or write down ALL of your questions...i always seem to have more questions the minute i walk out of the door, not a great feeling

the doc will give you an Xray, it only takes a couple minutes. This could be sufficient,but I have Degenerative Disk Disease in 2 disks and Xrays show absolutely nothing. If you don't see anything on the XRAY youmight want to ask about getting and MRI, which is a scan that will show much more detail. good luck,

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Old 07-27-2006, 03:43 PM   #4
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

Well, chiro can be good (it's been good for me, and is actually recommended by the orthopedic group I work for)...but it is important to get a good diagnosis too. Or first, if you can.

The fact is that most people over the age of 35 or so have some sort of degenerative disc disease (DDD), although for many it is entirely unsymptomatic. On the other hand, some have a completely negative MRI study but still suffer from debilatating back pain. To put it simply, backs are weird. Unpredictable.

While it does seem from your post that you may have some sciatic nerve involvement, it is imperative that you get in to see a provider to get the radiological studies and exam done. This site, as helpful as it is (and I am a GREAT advocate of it, it's done me a lot of good) is no substitute for a doctor's office visit.

Ice is a good suggestion, and NSAIDS if they are tolerable for you, but if you can you ought to make an appointment and get this looked at. I wish you luck and hopefully many pain-free days in the future.

 
Old 07-29-2006, 01:26 PM   #5
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I have had bad lower back pain for the last 5-10 years.Actually the last 2 jobs I had I hurt my back on the first day and had to quit and Im only 35.Probably just back spasm's.I have always noticed that when I work my Abs and stay in shape my back feels better.I only got Xrays that showed nothing.I have never taken medication for my back except Advil.I went to the Back Doctor and thats the 1 thing he told me was to exercise my stomach area to strengthen it.I never went back but Im still in pain from time to time.Boy,Back pain is very dehabilitating especially when a physical type of labor job is involved.

 
Old 07-29-2006, 02:37 PM   #6
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

My back is beyond repair with current science.

BUT I have seen a few chiropractors in the old days and I would tell them ...
up front....my insurance pays for this many visits. Can you fix me in that many visits or less. If they said yes we tried it. If they said no, I moved on.

I have found most are honest, but like anything else, some are crooks.

As you have been told, get X-Rays, CTs, MRI's, Discograms...take care of it
as soon as possible and good luck.

 
Old 07-29-2006, 03:01 PM   #7
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

Lower back pain certainly does hurt.
Thing is that you can't fix it unless you know exactly what to fix!
a good diagnosis by a medical professional is a must.

I am seeing a Chiropractor now and I am happy with the results so far
BUT I did all the other things first.
You need, at the very least, a family Dr to take Xrays and see "what is what" before letting anyone do something like manipulate your spine.

I have seen the various medical specialists and had lots of X-rays and MRI's on my spine over many years. PCP, Neurologist, Orthropedic Surgen, Physical Therapists.
I've spent a couple winters doing Physical Therapy.
I know exactly whats medically wrong in my spine and why.
At this point I am aware the Chiropractor can help for my specific problem.

I feel lucky I have located a good Chiropractor.
He took X-rays the first day and we went over them together the explained what he can (and can't) help me with.
I have explained we can only do what my ins pays for but I am not having any problem about it so far.

Be aware that for many back problems the Chiropractor is trying to slow the progression of an unstoppable problem.
In which case stopping means you revert right back to the painful place where you started.
That is true for me and I do understand that.
So, in my case, it's a life long commitment to continue this, although surely by this winter it will be once a week or (hopefully) less.

Do you sleep with the knee pillow?
This is unharmful and can be very helpful for lower back pain.
When I first discovered the contour knee pillow my lower back reacted like it was miricle after only 3 nights.

About excercises.. what is excellant for one thing may be harmful for another thing....so you really do need to know exactly what the problem is medically even before starting home excercises.

Last edited by snowmelts; 07-29-2006 at 03:05 PM.

 
Old 07-30-2006, 09:54 AM   #8
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I have been lifting weights for nearly 20 years.I usually lift moderate to heavy weights.My back can't be all that bad because i can still do the squats.My Back acts up if I lay around for a week or 2 and when Im totally inactive,bad diet and get out of shape.I really never hurt my back lifting weights ever.Usually cutting the Lawn,getting up from the couch or just turning an awkward way.To me it feels like I have back spasm's.Working a high activity level labor job, I don't think i could do if it involved my Back. I think I just have a musculature problem but i wouldn't rule out a pinched nerve but thats not a muscle spasm.The last 2 jobs I started I hurt my back.The one job I slipped on the ice in a snow storm and hit the back of my heels so hard i was in bed for a week.The other job was alot of heavy pulling that involved my lower back and I also was in bed for a week.I just take Advil because I do have arthritis in my knee's and possibly my back.i had Lyme's disease about 16 years ago and I am sure thats where I get my arthritis from.Its not crippling arthritis but it was when I had lymes 16 years ago.Im sure it could be linked to my Back problems but who knows.

 
Old 07-30-2006, 06:22 PM   #9
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Re: Advice needed - Lower Back Pain

Do see a spine specialist. An orthopeadic surgeon or a neurologist that specializes in the spine.

I had the same exact symptoms as you do only mine was the right side. I too first went to a chiro and he did xrays and it shows severe degenerative discs in my late 20's. I hurt much worse when I left him the first day. When I told my family, they all said you can't trust them and I should get an opinion from a "real" doctor. My primary doc sent me for an MRI which confirmed the chiro's findings, which terrified me both times. It took several years of agony to decide I needed medicine and further care.

I have been told I am too young for the severity of my disk damage. They don't like to perform surgery when you are in your 30's or younger because the chances of additional surgeries are so great, however, you heal faster when you are younger. I finally lost all quality of life an agreed to have the surgery. I went with a very young surgeon as they tend to have the newest technologies and he already had a great reputation.

I hope that you will not have to go what I and others have gone through. If one doctor dismisses your claim of pain, find another doctor and fast. I had to do that and it is the most humiliating experience in the world. Those are the ones who think you are too young to have pain.

Good luck to you and please keep us posted!

Sincerely,
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:44 PM   #10
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It sounds similar to mine. I also have pain in the low back, buttocks, hip and down my leg toward my knee. I have been told that I have Sacroiliac Sprain. I also had a lower lumbar sprain from a recent job related injury. Do some research on Sacroiliac Sprain and see if that is something that it could be and make sure you talk to your dr about it also if it sounds like that could be it. Good luck!

 
Old 08-15-2006, 11:07 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=1010]Hi everyone - 1st time positing on this board, but you all seem to be very helpful to those who post, so I was hoping to bounce my situation off your guys (and gals) in return for some advice. Here's the story:

Had lower back pain that got progressively worse over time, so I went to see a chiropractor. She had me a 3-day-a-week plan for about 4 weeks...until insurance stopped paying for it. Once insurance stopped, and I said that I had no intention of paying full price, we parted ways. I got a sales pitch (very sleezy, actually, considering I told her upfront that the treatment was only as good as what the insurance would pay for), but just could not do it financially. Anyway, I am now in MUCH more pain that when I started.

The pain resides at the very base of my back, on the left side only (actually, it is sort of on the top of my left cheek, if you will). Pretty painful, especially when I try to stand up from a sitting position. Any thoughts? Sciatic Nerve? Something pressing where it shouldn't be? Slipped disc? Any advice on what I should do next - excercises, see a real doc, etc.

Thanks in advance...[/QUOTE]

Well, as others have said, you really need an x-ray or a doctor's visit at least to get a diagnosis. I have similar pain, and mine is due to a bulging disc at L5 - S1 that causes sciatica pain down my leg, and what the doctor's office called "spinal arthritis and degenerative disc disease" ... very scary words, but there's a whole range of severity with these things, so you have to talk to the doctor and find out what it all means.

There is a "stretching exercise" that I do that really helps with the dull, aching pain that I have. Actually, I have several that I do, but this is the only one I would be comfortable telling you to do because you're not pulling or pushing on any part of your body. In this stretch, all you do is lie on the floor in front of a chair ... position your butt nearly against the legs of the chair, so that your legs are almost at a 90 degree angle to your body, with your knees bent and the calves resting on the chair seat. Its almost like a sitting position, except you are looking at the ceiling. Get into the position very carefully, but once you are in it, try to relax. If you're like me, you'll feel sensations in your lower back as it flattens out toward the floor, but should not feel an increase in pain. If you feel an increase in pain, abort the "stretch" and wait until you see the doctor. Pain is bad.

Lie there for about five minutes and see if the pain starts subsiding. Be careful getting up out of this position, as twisting is sometimes a killer for me. But this "stretch" gives me a lot of relief with my lower back pain. I do it about 4 times a day, 5 minutes at a time.

Its also worthwhile to list all the things that cause pain, exactly where you have tingling or pain, and anything else you notice. All of your symptoms are important for the diagnosis. I would caution against doing too much in other ways; some of the stretches make my pain worse, so you want to wait for the diagnosis before you start an exercise or stretching program.

 
Old 08-16-2006, 03:51 PM   #12
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So sorry to hear about your back. Back pain can be the most uncomfortable and painful experience. You need to see a real doctor. I broke my back 16 years ago and since then I've been to several doctor's, several Physical therapist, and had several test done. They are all good for you as well as the doctor. I think for the doctor more. $$$$$ if you know what I mean. So get a well know doctor to look at you. I did constuction most of my life and really messed up my back. April of 2005 I had a tri-level fusion L2 - L5. Which I might mention didn't work, so I have to have another one. Anyway, If I would of seen a doctor earily on that should of treated me right, I might of not needed the surgery.
Best of luck with your quest searching for a doctor. And I hope you pain goes away.

Tim

 
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