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Old 08-30-2006, 06:26 PM   #1
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What's the name of the procedure ....

where they insert a copper wire into the perimiter of the disc, heat it up and "seal" the torn disc? My doc wants to do this on my L4-L5 and I am trying to research it online.

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Old 08-30-2006, 08:47 PM   #2
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Nevermind...IDET, I remembered. But if anyone has

experience w/ this let me hear your thoughts.

 
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:15 PM   #3
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Re: What's the name of the procedure ....

I heard that a newer version is out called Trandiscal Procedure by Bayliss Med. Do not know much about either....but I heard it is something to research. (transdiscal) I am in the process of trying to find a dr. that does it.

I think I have read a lot of posts here from people not crazy about the IDET....curious to see what results folks have had here.

Keep me posted!

 
Old 09-01-2006, 11:37 AM   #4
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I've had two levels of IDET, so will be glad to answer whatever questions I can and tell you whatever you would like to know about it. If you do a search on this board of "IDET" you'll find many, many threads and posts about it that you can also read.

First let me say that I did not have a positive outcome from it. I was scheduled to have both levels done at the same time, but my doctor only did one. He told me that I was crying so hysterically that he couldn't bare to continue. A month or two later we did the second level. I had two VERY different experiences. The first one I don't remember a thing about. It's done under sedation, but you're not fully out. The second level though - HOLY COW do I remember it. I thought the discogram I had done prior to the IDET was bad... , IDET was soooo painful!

The idea of IDET is to heat up the inside of the disc and basically turn it into jelly, then as it heals itself over time, it should fill in the cracks and tears that were in the disc. I had to wear a corset for months afterwards whenever I was out of bed to keep me from bending. The odds for this procedure being successful are 60/40 (60% chance of positive outcome). There is also a fairly low possibility that you can end up worse off than you are before hand. I was in the lucky percentage that ended up worse off. After the healing period was over I was actually in more pain that before I had the IDET. So that raises the question of 'if I could go back in time, would I still have it done?'. To be honest, I probably would. I was in so much pain that I had to take the chance that it would work. In theory, IDET sounds great. Unfortunately, I think a lot more needs to be done to perfect it.

Unfortunately now it's a matter of life long pain control. A discogram after IDET showed that I now have 3 bad discs instead of just the 2. Because of where they are and how bad they are I'm not a candidate for fusion. A very well respected surgeon actually told me how wouldn't touch me, saying that there was a very good chance I would end up worse after surgery. Sorry, but I've been there, not taking that chance again.

What odds is your doctor giving you that it will be successful? It's very important to know how many he/she has done and what the outcomes have been, if you are going to consider this procedure. When are you thinking of having this done? There are many sites online that have some very good diagrams that can show you exactly how the procedure is done. Just search IDET and I'm sure you'll find a ton of information.

Please let me know if you have any specific questions or anything else you would like to know - will do my best to answer whatever I can for you. Good luck with your decision!

 
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Re: What's the name of the procedure ....

Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately all of the research I have done on this proceduere leads to a negative outcome. I haven't heard one positive. Your experience just added to that. This procedure sounds alot like a "discogram", if so it scares me to death. My discogram was a nightmare. I was not sedated though. Now I am so torn (no pun intended, lol). The only two options I have left are ADR & IDET.

The surgeon I saw regarding ADR told me that there was only a 60% chance that ADR would relieve the pain. This is partially due to two different causes. Also, the recovery time for a disc replacement is not in my cards as I run a company w/ DH. I assumed IDET would be less invasive, therefore a shorter recovery. I am now finding that not to be true - there is a LOT of pain and a lengthy recovery. What a quandry.

The meds drive me nuts, the epidurals don't help. I just want my old back to return, the one before my fall!

Thanks again, you were very helpful .

 
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Re: What's the name of the procedure ....

Glad to help any way I can - I just wish I could have given you some better news.

Here is a post I think will help you.

[url]http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=365625&highlight=ADR[/url]

It's a very informative post that one of the other members of the board put together a while ago. Please make sure you read it - there is some very important info about ADR that I'm sure you will find interesting. If you do a search of ADR on the board you'll also find a bunch of other posts about it that I'm sure will help you in making your decision. Please do a lot of research about before deciding one way or the other.

I wish I could have my old back back too. Before I got hurt I never had so much as a twing of back pain in my entire life. Never woke up stiff, nothing! Now it's constant pain and there is so little I can do and so much that I can't. I'm only in my mid (actually late but I'm not dealing with that well ) 30's and it's hard to accept that this is the rest of my life.

I wish you all the luck in the world - I hope you find lasting pain relief soon. Let me know if I can help with anything else

 
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