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Old 03-05-2007, 06:03 AM   #1
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New and could use some advice...

This is my first post on the back board and from reading some of the post i feel this is the place to get some much needed advice. I've been having lower back pain ( i thought it was my hips till recently) for a while now and would like some advice on what road to take to improve it. I've been told the muscles are tight in that area and do stretches given to me by a physical therapist. I was also told by a massage therapist that my hips were out of alignment. i don't know which is truer. Here's the situation... I feel ok as long as i'm standing or walking, but getting up from sitting or laying cause pain in the lower back and legs that goes away after walking around for a few minutes. Is this all just be a part of getting older...i'm 54?

I walk 2-3 miles outside or do walking videos daily, do strenght training several times a week, no problems while exercising. I know this is minor compared to some of what i've read here, but it is a concern for me. I keep thinking/hoping it will get better on it own like its done before, but am not sure about this time. Is it time to see the doctor and maybe get more physical therapy than just stretches? Any advice would be appreciated. thank you for the help...phyllis

 
Old 03-05-2007, 06:28 AM   #2
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Re: New and could use some advice...

Hi and welcome!!! Did you previously ever have back problems? When my degenerative disc disease flared up, my symtoms were similar, but progressed over years.

I had hurt my back years ago...

 
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That's strange , my problems got worse when I'm on my feet.
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[COLOR="Navy"]Phyllis,

Welcome to the boards. Before I would have more therapy, I would go and get checked out to see if there is anything wrong. You don't want to do more damage if there is something wrong....

WElcome and hang in there..
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Re: New and could use some advice...

Thank you all for the welcome and quick response. I have had this problem in the past and eventualy it would get better or go away. I don't think i've ever injured my back...i think i would've remembered that. Would our family doctor be the one to see about possible causes? When i've mentioned it in the past he suggested physical therapy, but when i told him i did stretches he didn't pursue it. He gave me muscle relaxers, but didn't like the way they made me feel so i stopped after a couple of days. I was DX with osteoporosis last year, and probably had it when i talked to him about the back pain. Do you think that could be part of it? I know it can cause compression fractures. What kind of test would i ask for? once again, thanks for the help. phyllis

 
Old 03-05-2007, 08:24 AM   #7
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[COLOR="Navy"]Morning Shawley...

I have an announcement! No, I am not healed, I do not cure pain, am still crabby when I hurt, and am a d*mn good baker....[SIZE="4"]I AM A GRANDMOTHER!! [SIZE="3"]Derrick born last Tuesday via section, 9 lb. 1oz, 20" long. [SIZE="2"]Momma and babe doing well. It gives a great sense of completeness to know that you raised your children well enough that they chose to have children also..... All being said and done. I am not old enough to be a grandmother. My mother said she never regreted carrying me 22 years ago...so there you go. My oldest son has some problems with this as he is now older than I am...[/SIZE]how was YOUR weekend?[/SIZE][/SIZE]

How is the pain?

Phyllis, sorry got sidetracked. I would go to a BACK dr. not your normal GP. As long as he can get rid of your pain with some pills, he has taken care of the immediate issue. Osteoporosis can cause problems. Who diagnosed the osteo? If you need a referal for your insurance, go back to your GP and ask for one....I would personally start with a back dr. and let him decide what needs to be done...[/COLOR]

 
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Hi Phyllis,
About 3 years ago I noticed back pain, brought on by gardening, and a tightness in my hamstrings and did just what you are doing. I stretched, took aeoribc swim classes, walked etc. What I found is that my syptoms worsened over time. My one advice is that I would go to my GP and ask for a referral to a spine specialist and or orthopedist immediately. You can ask for X-rays, CT (Cat) Scan, and possibly an MRI. What this can determine is if you do indeed have something out of alignement in your spine, nerves that are being compressed and causing pain, perhaps arthristis or a host of other diagnosis.

I had spent the last 3-4 years at the chiroractor and acupuncture thinking I just had tight muscles etc....only to finally end up at a spine clinic where I was diagnosed with Spondylolesthesis, which is a common ailment having to do with disc slippage hitting other vertabrae and compressing nerves and inflaming tissue, which contributes to leg weakness, numbness, genital numbness, sometimes incontincnence, tingling, pins and needles and general immobility and pain in the sacrum and lower back. It is also called Pars Defect.

I only wish I had sought the diagnosis sooner. I am 48 and a former athlete whose quality of life has been drastically altered. Don't hesitate...if the stretching and anit-inflammatories over-the-counter, like Ibuprofen aren't working, I'd run to your Doc and have him focus seriously on obtaining a diagnosis for you.

Let's hope everything is ruled out and you've just had a strain. Mean time, walking helps, don't lift stuff, and try to avoid high heels...my opinion of course but generally indicated for lower back ailments.
Hope this helps and doesn't scare you but encourages you to look further.
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Re: New and could use some advice...

You guys are really on the ball here... the osteo was DX by a DEXA scan i had last May after a heel test showed low bone density. Our family dr. ordered it. I had considered going to the chiropractor, which i now will not do..thank you Erica saying you tried that route. I don't wear high heels...i'm a housewife. I've been lifting weights for several years and have good form...its not something i want to give up and it doesn't seem to bother my back since i've modified standing exercises to be done seated. I also use good body mechanics when lifting, bending, squatting....leftover skills from being a nurses aid many moons ago.

I'll give the new stretches awhile to see if they help and if they don't help i'll head to the dr. for test or a referral, or both. Another question...i 've been taking generic aleve or asprin when needed...would a solid few days of taking it help? It boggles my mind that its only after sitting or laying that i have the ache. It is so hard to describe how things feel..guess i should practice up on that before i see the dr. We finally have a beautiful day, i'm off for a nice long walk. Once again thanks for the help...keep it coming...i'm learning....phyllis

I want to add... Some nights it harder to turn over in bed than others, i sleep on my side or stomach. Also at times there is a heavy? feeling in the lower back area when upright. i don't know if this is pertinent, but wanted to give as much detail as i can. the ache is mainly on the right side ...boy do i miss the days of getting up, moving and not feeling a thing.

Congratulation on the new grand son ibake&pray... they are truly a joy.

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[COLOR="Navy"]Phyllis,

First, thank you. I think he will be an interesting addition to our family...

Next, make sure that when you roll over you do it as a log. Everything rolls at the same time. Put a pillow between your knees to keep your back level. Watch your BLT (bending lifting twisting). When you sleep on your back, put two pillows under you legs to releave the pressure on your back. And yes, I know what you mean by the heavieness. If you were standing you would say that you feel like you have twenty pound weights on your hips, right?

I would think that taking aleve for a couple of days solid would give it a chance to help your body heal. You don't get a prize for having pain my friend the nurse says! I find that the hot tub really helps relax everything and ease out the aches.

hang in there!

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Old 03-06-2007, 05:18 AM   #11
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Hi Jill, thanks for the tips. You are so right about hot water...we don't have a hot tub but, i do take a hot bath before bed. I made a bag full of clay kitty litter that when heated in the microwave gets and stays hot for a good while is helpful. I started taking the aleve last night, i forgot we had prescription strength (naproxen 500mg), so that is what i'll try 2x's a day for a few. It that does the trick, i'll kick myself for not doing it sooner and if it doesn't i'll call the dr. and get started on that. Another question..if the aleve does work should i still go to the doctor or assume the problem is taken care of for now?

Did/do you ever have the feeling that when you were standing in one place that your were lopsided? I've notice that after a while of standing at the sink (no dishwasher either) that i find myself standing with most of my weight on one leg.

Thank you so much for your help. I see that this an active board full of helpful people. have a good day....phyllis

 
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[COLOR="Navy"]MOrning Phyllis,

Yep, I often find myself shifting my weight to one leg. Get chewed out about it from my therapist also. LOL. Try putting a low stool by the sink and put one foot up on that.

YES< even if the pain has abated, go to the doctor. You need to find out what is really wrong. Prescription aleve (naproxen) is what they first gave me when I started working with the back doctor... it can really help.

hang in there and keep us posted..
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