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Old 08-29-2007, 05:27 AM   #1
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Father in immense pain, need some info please

Over the past month and half or so, my fathers been experiencing tremendous pain. The pain started after he golfed. He sleeps like 1 hour a night and has lost about 30 pounds or so it seems. He has pain from his lower back which leads to his buttocks/hip and down to his knee, I always see him putting a hot pack on his knee. He recently got 3 injections in the lower portion of the spine and it cost 140 dollars, seems kinda cheap to me. Also he said the pain reduced slightly but only lasted for a couple days. He is considering getting some type of surgery, is this the best thing to do or are there alternatives? Any info or help on what this could be is greatly appreciated. I also just want to understand what is going on with him. Is it common for someone with this condition to only sleep like an hour a night and turn into a stick figure? Or is it the sleep deprivation causing him to look like hell? Or should we be on the lookout for something more serious?


Here is my father's Lumbar spine MRI results, I will write it exactly how it is onthe report

FINDINGS: there are patchy areas of low signal intensity noted in every lumbosacral spine level on T1 weighted sequences. These areas are seen to be at least partially increased signal intensity on T2. Overall this is highly suspicious for bone infiltrative process such as metastatic disease. There is a linear low signal intensity line seen in the L4 vertebra suspicious for pathologic fracture of the L4 vertebra. This is seen running horizontally along the upper aspect of the vertebral body. There also likely a pathologic fracture of the L3 vertebra as indicated by minimal loss of height of the vertebral body.

At L1-L2 level there is diffuse disc bulge without significant central canal stenosis or neuroforaminal narrowing

At L2-L3 level there is diffuse mild disc bulge asymmetric towards the left with mild ligamentum flavum thickening. On theleft side there is mild neuroforaminal narrowing.

At L3-L4 level there is moderate diffuse disc bulge asymmetric towards the left with facet hypertrophy. These findings cause bilateral neuroforaminal narrowing. There is no central canal stenosis.

At L4-L5 level there is moderate diffuse disc bulge with a broad based central protrusion causing mild to moderate central canal stenosis. There is also ligamentum flavum thickening and facet hypertrophy. These findings plus the disc bulge cause moderate to severe bilateral neuroforaminal narrowing.

At L5-S1 level there is 2mm of retrolisthesis of L5 on S1 along with diffuse disc bulge. There is no significant central canal stenosis, but there is bilateral mild neuroforaminal narrowing worse on the left then the right.

Please if anyone can take their time to read this and understand it and tell me how serious his problem is. Please let me know, also my father was tested to see if he has cancer with further test including CT scans, and they came up negative for cancer.

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:50 AM   #2
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Re: Father in immense pain, need some info please

Thank GOD he doesn't have cancer ! Sorry to here of his problems I can't tell you what needs to be done , better let that up to his surgeon . I have heard of this thing where they inject some type cement into the vertebra
X-stop to fix fractures . I honstly don't know ?? Sorry ..

Hope he starts feeling better , pain and stress not sleeping can wear a person out...I sleep off and on at night to.. Very painful and always dred bedtime.

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Old 08-29-2007, 06:12 AM   #3
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Re: Father in immense pain, need some info please

are the symptoms and problems hes experiencing common with people with this problem most likely sciatica? before the golf and pain started setting in my dad was pretty muscular and fit, but now he is nearing the look of Christian Bale in the Machinist. I don't understand how his weight loss can be this severe just because of this sciatic pain. I dont seem to see anyone else experiencing this kind of weight loss due to this problem. i am just so worried

 
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I don't know what meds he's on but they may be doing this..Some meds I take make me not want to eat ??

 
Old 08-29-2007, 06:36 AM   #5
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he is not on any meds at all. at first they gave him oxycodone, and my dad said it did absolutely nothing for the pain so he just stopped taking them and has gone for nearly 2 months with no meds. but looking at him i know he is in agony, his eyes get watery, its just heartbreaking to see it.

 
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In my opinion, he needs to see a pain specialist to get that under control. Maybe you or someone should go with him to his doctor appointments. Us old farts have a way of not telling the docs everything that's going on. Pain and lack of sleep can definately wear a man down to the point of not eating or anything else.

 
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I can imagine how you feel . Maybe he needs to see his primary Physician about his wieght loss cause I never experienced anything like that with my back injury ? I'm sorry I have no answers for you.

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Re: Father in immense pain, need some info please

"Overall this is highly suspicious for bone infiltrative process such as metastatic disease. "

Has your father seen a doctor to rule out cancer? The MRI report seems to be suggesting here that it is a possibility.

I hope it is only a fracture and that he will be feeling better soon.

Best wishes.

 
Old 08-29-2007, 09:21 AM   #9
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because of that statement on the MRI he got checked up again with a CT scan, and it came up negative for cancer. Also the suspicion of cancer came from the T1 and T2. Is this even enough to rule it out though? In the back of my mind I have this feeling like whoever read the CT pictures and writes the reports screwed up. His pain started after he hurt himself playing golf so till this day I am assuming he messed up his spine some how, but since that time with his weight loss and all he looks like someone who does have cancer but since the doctor says it isnt I am so relieved.

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Old 08-29-2007, 09:26 AM   #10
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delete this post plz

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Old 08-29-2007, 10:58 AM   #11
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Re: Father in immense pain, need some info please

Well, it's a great relief that they were able to rule out cancer.

FWIW, I lost weight when I was in severe pain from a herniated disc. Not as much as your father, though. Being in pain makes you lose your appetite, plus you don't feel up to preparing food. Even microwaving a frozen dinner was an ordeal for me during that time.

A fractured vertebrae I would imagine can cause really severe pain.

Back problems run in my family. My grandfather had spinal fusions three times: cervical, thoracic and lumbar. Then later, in his 70s, he had to have rods put in because of collapsing vertebrae.

He also played golf - into his late 60s or early 70s I think. Golf is hard on the back (that's not what caused his problems - it's also from a genetic predisposition). I've heard it can cause herniated discs if you're prone to that because of the twisting motion.

 
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