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Old 03-17-2008, 05:11 PM   #1
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Bone spurs in lower back.

I have had lower back pain for several months. My doctor sent me for an X-ray and I never heard back from her. Today I went back to the doctor as my back is still hurting everytime I stand. She told me today that the X-ray showed bone spurs on my lower back. She is sending me for an MRI. Has anyone had anything similar and what can I expect?

 
Old 03-17-2008, 10:18 PM   #2
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Hi Big Daddy, I had bone spurs from spinal stenosis and they tried the following:

1. Medication - Motrin around the clock for 10 days, medrol (steroid pack which lasted 7 days), a steroid injection in the hip to get the steroids in quickly, muscle relaxer, and a pain reliever. They told me to alternate between ice packs and the heating pad. (Be sure to use no more than 20 minutes at a time or your could receive a burn. Believe me I have the heating pad coil marks (circular rings) on my back to prove that it does happen.

2. At the end of 10 days, they sent me to physical therapy for six weeks and ordered an MRI.

3. Still not feeling better they sent me to a surgeon. The surgeon ordered a CT scan and

4. a series of 3 epidural injections (steroids injected directed into the spinal column). They start an iv, some places give you light sedation, they spray a numbing spray on your back, do the injection under fluroscopy (very important - don't let anyone do an injection without using the flurscopy), and you are out of the building within 30 to one hour from the start of the procedure. The second day to about the 5th day you will experience a temporary increase in pain then it will slowly get better for you or back to your preinjection levels.

When all of the above failed to provide me with relief i.e. back pain and leg pain, I underwent a laminectomy. During the surgery they decompressed the affected nerve and removed the bone spur. Recovery was six weeks before I resummed my daily activities and 4 to 6 months before I recovered.

Do you have leg pain? What medications do they have you on?

I hope this answered some of your questions but please remember each case is unique and has its own levels of complexity. Also different doctors handle things differently.

Good luck and I will be lifting you up in prayer.

 
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Old 03-18-2008, 04:47 AM   #3
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

[QUOTE=123dietdrpepper;3491414]Hi Big Daddy, I had bone spurs from spinal stenosis and they tried the following:

1. Medication - Motrin around the clock for 10 days, medrol (steroid pack which lasted 7 days), a steroid injection in the hip to get the steroids in quickly, muscle relaxer, and a pain reliever. They told me to alternate between ice packs and the heating pad. (Be sure to use no more than 20 minutes at a time or your could receive a burn. Believe me I have the heating pad coil marks (circular rings) on my back to prove that it does happen.

2. At the end of 10 days, they sent me to physical therapy for six weeks and ordered an MRI.

3. Still not feeling better they sent me to a surgeon. The surgeon ordered a CT scan and

4. a series of 3 epidural injections (steroids injected directed into the spinal column). They start an iv, some places give you light sedation, they spray a numbing spray on your back, do the injection under fluroscopy (very important - don't let anyone do an injection without using the flurscopy), and you are out of the building within 30 to one hour from the start of the procedure. The second day to about the 5th day you will experience a temporary increase in pain then it will slowly get better for you or back to your preinjection levels.

When all of the above failed to provide me with relief i.e. back pain and leg pain, I underwent a laminectomy. During the surgery they decompressed the affected nerve and removed the bone spur. Recovery was six weeks before I resummed my daily activities and 4 to 6 months before I recovered.

Do you have leg pain? What medications do they have you on?

I hope this answered some of your questions but please remember each case is unique and has its own levels of complexity. Also different doctors handle things differently.

Good luck and I will be lifting you up in prayer.[/QUOTE]

 
Old 03-18-2008, 04:57 AM   #4
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Thank you for your information and your prayers. The doctor gave me Celebrex and I take one a day. She had given me Skell... something when she thought it was muscular. It made me dizzy so I stopped taking it and it never eased the pain. I don't have any pain in my legs. Just in the lower back. It hurts almost every time that I stand from a sitting position and it is diffucult to straighten up. It is also difficult to tie my shoes. I am waiting to get a date for an MRI.

 
Old 03-20-2008, 04:38 AM   #5
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Hi! I also had a bone spur on my original xray at the onset of my pain. A bone spur is a growth to try and cover up underlying problem. (in my case)

For 2 years, all docs said that bone spurs do not cause pain. That is baloney.

After trying everything in the book to relieve the pain, inlcuding pain meds, muscle relaxers, nerve pain meds, physical therapy, hysterectomy and appendectomy, steroid injections in various places, a discogram that showed my discs were fine, chiro appts, accupuncture, massage, and seeing a naturopath, I went again to see the back surgeon who felt sorry for me in his office since I was crying and agreed to do surgery. At that point, I was limping on the right and in pain to tears.

After they opened me up, the saw the inflammation and severe arthritis of the facet joint, not the disc, and they cleaned up the bone spur and fused L5-S1.

My point I am trying to make to you is please try all other avenues to help with the pain, but if you don't get anywhere with it, dont let them dismiss you. See a spine specialist, getting 2nd and 3rd opinions if necessary.Hope you feel better soon!
Jen

 
Old 03-20-2008, 05:01 AM   #6
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Thanks twins. I'm not afraid of surgery. Can you tell about yours? How long were you in the hospital? How long out of work?

The Celebrex that I am taking seems to have eased the pain, but it is still there.

I will find out more on tomorrow's MRI.

Thanks for writing!

 
Old 03-20-2008, 05:24 AM   #7
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Sounds like it could be arthritis. If you can manage it with celebrex that is great!!! If you can get the pain down to say 3 on the pain scale, I would not do surgery. I think that surgery causes even more pain (including nerve damage) and the back is extremely slow to heal. I am still at least a pain level of 3 at 6 months out of surgery. I get sciatic pain that is relentless.

When you get surgery, depending on what they do, You have to wear a brace, and no bending , lifting, or twisting for 6 months. I am still not able to work at 6 months out of surgery. I am attending college part time but feel there is no way I could work yet.

Surgery is definitely a point at which you have tried everything and are desperate for pain relief. I still cant walk walmart, and need to ride in a motor cart. You have to be very patient with surgery. At 5 months I was in pain and thought there was no way out of this, and at 6 months Im feeling better, so it can get better but it is a LONG road. (for me)

For my surgery, They went in and cleaned out my bone spur area, and did a laminectomy and fused L5-S1. I have a bracket with two pins/screws in there. They put in a BMP which is a bone growth stimulator to help the bone fuse faster. I think they removed or fixed the bad facet joint.

Hope that helps! Let us know what your MRI says
Jen

 
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Oops, forgot to tell you, I was in the hospital 4 days. I probably would have got out in 3 days, but the pain meds were making me so sick and I couldnt eat. As soon as they took me off the big pain meds, I started eating and got out the next day.
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

My Dr. must be nuts too , my CT said I had bone spurs too but my Dr. said they didn't cause pain...Wait until I see him..Grrrr.

Good Luck with your back , I took skelaxin too , was in la, la land everytime I took it.

 
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

I had alot of bone spurring, but the extent of my problem did not show up on x-ray. My x-rays said mild degeneration. When I finally had my first MRI, my spine was a mess. My rheumy even said alot of my pain was probably caused by the bone overgrowth (plus I had disc herniations and a thickened & buckling ligament). My surgeon didnt say anything in particular about the spurs, he just saw from my MRI and films that I had alot of compression in there caused by several things. Before I even was able to make an appt. with him, I had to fax them any xray and mri reports. I guess they wanted to see first if I might even be a candidate for surgery. I did get a call back to make an appt. and the surgeon had told me I would need surgery (if I decided to do it) if I wanted any chance of walking normal again and having less or complete pain relief. He did show me on my MRI's where everythign was and he's done that any time I went there...so It's also a learning experience for me.

But anyway, you might want to have an MRI done so your spine can be checked more thoroughly b/c x-ray does not show the whole story. And spurs definitely can cause pain, especially if they press into any surrouning nerves.

 
Old 03-20-2008, 08:47 AM   #11
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

I had no idea that the surgery would have such a long recovery. I couldn't take 6 months off from work.

We shall see what the MRI shows tomorrow.

Thank you all for your information.

 
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Big, it all depends on what kind of surgery is done, plus how your own body heals, etc. I had multi-level laminectomies and was out of work for 10 weeks, but I also have other health issues that caused alot of fatigue and such, so it took me longer to recouperate. The average out of work time for my surgery is about 6 to 8 weeks, some people feel really good in less time. If one has a fusion, then that seems to usually take a long time to completely heal.

First you need to see what the MRI results are and you should ask for a copy of the MRI report also. Then you will see what treatments to try or if you even need any type of surgery. It's possible that the bones spurs might not even be causing you any pain, it could be disc herniation or something else. Let us know when you get the MRI results.

 
Old 03-20-2008, 10:32 AM   #13
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

Thanks Baybreeze. You are right. The MRI will tell the story. Thanks for you input and concern. I will let you know what they find. I had by-pass surgery 5 years ago and wasn't out of work much longer that a month.

 
Old 03-26-2008, 08:14 AM   #14
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

My doctors office called a moment ago with my MRI results. She said that the MRI showed a bulge at L-5,S-1 or something like that. I don't know what that means. She said the MRI also showed arthritis but no nerve problems. She is sending me for physical therapy.

 
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Re: Bone spurs in lower back.

I asked for a copy of the report which said:

Findings:

There is minimal disc desiccation at the L5-S1 level with a mild disc bulge appreciated which reveals no significant asymmetry or focality, and there is mild degenrative change involving the facets.

The remainder of the sutdy is unremarkable. The signal demonstrated by the bony structues is within normal limits. The conus is unremarkable.

Impression

Minimal disc desiccation and mild disc bulge at the L5-S1 level with mild degenerative change involving the facets. The study is otherwise unremarkale. There is no evidence of disc extrusion or significant canal compromise.

I still hurt.

 
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