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Old 10-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #1
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Back pain just not getting any better

Hi, a few years ago i referred myself to a chiropractor because i was having intense shoulder pain. He took xrays and told me i have mild scoliosis and started to adjust my back to treat it/treat the shoulder pain. Well the shoulder pain quickly went away and hasn't returned, however my back pain (which was mild due to lots of bending and shoveling with my previous barn job) has gotten worse.

I quit my barn job a few years ago now and don't do much in the way of heavy lifting and such but now if i sit for longer than a few hours/ride my horse/take a wrong step.. it seems to give me back pain.

Over the weekend i went with a friend to kentucky, a 5 hour drive there on saturday and a 5 hour drive back on sunday. I am so sore. My mid - lower back is killing. I know the long drive will have made me sore and i understand that sitting for that long will make anyone a bit stiff but i fell like all this going to the chiropractor isn't curing anything so much as it's taking my money and making it hurt as my spine pops back to where it's used to sitting.

Since about April this year i've had knee issue that i thought were related to riding my wide horse, which is basically what the ortho dr told me when i went to see him. Could the knee issues be related to the back issues? He didn't really tell me what was wrong with my knees other than to say i should get a slimmer horse but i also didn't tell him i had back pain.

Who else could i see for back pain other than a chiropractor? I want to get rid of the back pain, not end up with chronic pain that disrupts my life.

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:22 AM   #2
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

I would suggest you stop seeing the chiropractor, at least until you know what is causing your back pain. The most accurate and reliable diagnosis or evaluation will come from a spine specialist. This can be either a fellowship-trained orthopedic spine surgeon or a neurosurgeon whose practice is limited to the neck and back. Some people think because the word "surgeon" is in their title, and because they don't need surgery that this type of doctor is not appropriate...but let me assure you, it is. People can waste a lot of time seeing their family doctor, chiropractor, etc. who have basic knowledge of back issues but do not have the training to make the best evaluation.

Your knee pain could be caused by a lumbar spine issue such as a bulging disc or stenosis. The spinal nerves send signals out to the limbs and pain can develop anywhere along the path of the nerve due to an irritation or compression in the spine.

Do you remember the old song "Dem Bones?" It goes something like..."the ankle bone's connected to the knee bone; the knee bones connected to the hip bone," etc. There is a lot of truth to this song. When structural alignment is off, one thing can have an affect on the other.

For example, if a person has a pronation of the feet, it affects the legs, causing the knees to turn inward, which causes a change in the position of the hip joints, often causing the pelvis to tip...as the body strives to maintain alignment, muscles start to compensate and eventually it can effect the spine itself. You mention scoliosis. Even if it is very small amount, it will have an affect on your posture, muscle balances, soft tissue and fascia...so I think you would benefit from going to a spine specialist and being evaluated.

 
Old 10-08-2012, 08:05 AM   #3
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

Thanks for the reply.

I will stop seeing the chiropractor, it's not that he doesn't make my back feel better, but the better doesn't last very long and i have been seeing him for a few years now so what am i supposed to do? Keep going to a chiro every 6 weeks for the rest of my life? I don't think so.

I'll look for a orthopedic spine surgeon and try to get an evaluation from them. I was so annoyed at the ortho dr i saw not long ago, he seemed to make a huge joke out of the fact i have had knee pain since april just because i am a short woman who rides quite a large horse. I could hear him making jokes outside of the room with one of the other drs and i thought he was very unprofessional. My knees have gotten so bad that i can no longer run or ride for more than 30 minutes so it's really effecting the kinds of exercise i can do. The chiropractor said he thought it was ITband issues so had the massage therapist work on me (which was pure torture) and i didn't go back for another session because i could hardly walk after the first.

When the chiropractor took xrays of my back and shoulder i could see that my spine does have a slight curve to the left, this was a few years ago and i'm not sure if that can be straightened or if it has been since no more xrays have been taken since.

 
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

It may turn out that your knees are another problem entirely...but there is no doubt that doctor was very rude and unprofessional. Since you're having back pain, and have for some time, I would start with that and see where it takes you.

I've had three lumbar surgeries, two fusions and a smaller procedure in between. I have been working with a guy that I call my rearranger, who has made me aware of how important structural alignment is. The body naturally strives to be in balance. When there is back pain, it is human nature to compensate for it, which often results in favoring one side over the other. This can result in pulling other soft tissue out of balance, stretching or shortening ligaments and tendons, etc. I don't ride so can't give you any particular examples.

Have you tried a course of physical therapy for your back problems. A PT who is very experienced with spine cases can usually take one look at how you stand and tell you what is out of balance. The rotation or tipping of the pelvis can be a major cause of "back" pain and can create other problems up and down the spine.

What specifically are your problems in your back? How would you describe your symptoms?

 
Old 10-08-2012, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

I haven't tried physical therapy.

I used to get a lot of lower back pain when i worked in a horse barn because i did a lot of bending to muck out and lifting heavy hay bales. Now, like right now my pain is mid back, around c6,7 & 8, more to the right side of my spine. It's tender to touch and twisting or movement causes aching pain with occasionally sharp pain. On my left side if i lift my arm i get a tightness across my back that catches my breath. Also, oddly my back feels cold, like i've got icyhot on it which i don't.

 
Old 10-08-2012, 11:59 AM   #6
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

I was also facing with pain problem in my back. I had been through Thai Massage therapy. Feeling better now, but still I am having the massage twice in a month.

 
Old 10-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #7
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Re: Back pain just not getting any better

I would look into massage but for some reason every massage person i've been to here in the past for my back pain has hurt me more than helped me.

 
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