the scoliosis board is DEAD. nobody is replying on it so i am coming here...
i found out i have a tilted pelvis and mild scoliosis in december. i ended up aggravating the L5 disc in my low back twice in the past 8 months and ended up not being able to do anything for weeks... had to slowly recover.
well it's been a while and i was feeling so much better so my chiro gave me the go on working out- but i did start out slow- walked for weeks only. then added light weights and then jumping jacks and some moderate intensity. i was doing fine too for a few weeks... until i started getting major leg cramps at night, and nerves being a part of it-- in my ankle! it's been so scary.. the nerves just up and strike at night and i have no control. i am wondering if it's due to my scoliosis and perhaps my chiropractor adjusting me for a few months now?
i have been doing everything to prevent them and some nights they stay at bay but most nights the spasms will come and i freak out. i am taking xanax only at night because of this and teeth clenching.. yes my anxiety is high right now because i have had a lot of chronic pain the past few weeks. now my entire back from my neck down hurts, like i twisted it all weird. i feel like my scoliosis is getting worse instead of better. he has me wearing a heel lift because he said my left hip is 8 mm higher than my right. also he has me laying on this foam block on my left side to help straighten my spine, for 10 minutes a day. i couldn't do it today... i can't even tilt my head all the way up or look down without pain in my spine, like nerves being pinched all over. i even saw him today and he adjusted me but it didn't help. it's worrying me of course. i would like to see another x ray but he wants to wait till the Summer to see if i've gotten better.. to give it time. i feel worse since i started the heel lift and spine block to lay on...he said it shouldn't be causing any of this.
anyone else have scoliosis and feeling like their muscles are always pulled or strained and they have to sit up so straight and move slowly when they turn?
As you know, members are not physicians so please keep that in mind as you read. I'm afraid you'll find that many of us who have had serious spine problems and surgeries, are not fans of chiropractic care. It does have its place, but when there is nerve pressure or compression involved, it can make things worse. And, as with any profession, some are better than others. Some chiropractors know their limitations and know when it is time to turn a patient over to a spine specialist...but some don't want to lose control of the patient, so just keep treating them, to the patient's detriment.
Have you had a flexion/extension x-ray to check for a spondylolisthesis? Have you had a MRI or had an evaluation by an orthopedic spine surgeon or neurosurgeon? A correct diagnosis is probably the most important first step to healing.
I have had two lumbar fusions and I am pretty much pain-free now. However, I am amazed at how much I am affected by changing shoes. Even a small change in heel height makes my hip hurt. I too have a pelvis that wants to rotate. I think it comes from some of the ligaments, particularly in the sacroiliac joints, being lax.
I work with a non-traditional therapist who keeps me in alignment. Now that I am stronger, my SI joint stays in position much longer than it used to...because I have worked with him so long, I am very aware of (when one has lax ligaments and tendons and other soft tissue issues) how little it takes affect structural alignment that almost immediately begins to cause other problems -- hip pain, knee pain, etc.
It would seem to me that if the heel lift and wedge are making you feel worse, there is no point in using them. Perhaps they are ultimately good for you, but for now it is causing too much shift in your alignment.
The mild scoliosis may just be a result of the pelvis rotating and pulling on the big muscles of the back, particularly if you didn't have it as a child.
If your disc is herniated at L5-S1, it may be responsible for most of your problems. I would suggest an evaluation by a spine specialist.
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Hi mandolyn, Weights & jumping would be too too much for me especially if i was so flared up in my back that i was having nerve symptoms & reacting so severely to a heighth difference on my shoes! I would be resting with heating pad, ice pack on my lower back helps stop the shooting nerve root pain, taking hot soaking baths & taking it easy for me means no exercise except very short distance walking, stretching & if I had the first thought that the chiro wasnt helping me i would stop his office visits & his recommendations & see a spine surgeon because they have the most experience with the spine, imho & they order conservative treatments like PT, TENS, epidural steroids, medication, back brace etc first before ever considering surgery. I am so sorry that you are doing bad again & hope so much that it settles back down. I cant remember but have you taken your MRI & yourself to a spine specialist? A neurosurgeon or orthopedic that limits their practice to only the spine? Also, mandolyn, the way that you describe the neck to low back pain reminds me of how i feel when i have overdone & my muscles are spasming out of control until i cant turn my head, i take muscle relaxers, hot baths, heat , ice, rest but when it doesnt untighten i get a deep myofascial massage( the therapist avoids my L4-S1 on my instruction) & it works tremendously
I agree with both of you. The only glitch is my mom has already paid 1500 dollars for me to see my Chiropractor for one year. I feel like I have to keep going. I do get relief when he adjusts my back and neck... but I feel like it's only triggering my spine to go out of whack a week later. Now that I am in pain AGAIN I will not workout- and when i do feel better I will walk. This is always the process. I use ice on my back several times a day and take advil.. I have been through this twice, but I have never had my upper spine have this problem. I deep muscle massage sounds PERFECT for my upper back today. I just can't afford anything. We are literally broke. My next doc appointment is April 31st and I will have to pay HIS price because my copays are all used up for the year. I used to be healthy, never had these problems. I know that my spine and pelvis is result of 3 pregnancies and natural births-- then working out for several years after, doing high intensity when I didn't even know I had a crooked spine or tilted pelvis. I really do need an MRI. I will discuss that with my doctor. My doctor and Chiro think I only have anxiety because I have been in for different reasons lately too- TMJ problems and with my doc I didn't mention the back pain last time I saw him because I wasn't having any. So I get discouraged to call him and tell him "oh, now my back hurts again" -- because most doctors think you're crazy when you keep calling about symptoms.
but yeah, when nerves are involved it is SCARY. and my nerves like to party at night.
Well, it's below my neck.. like on the sides of my spine right below.. those muscles are super tight and I keep tweaking them somehow. It makes it hard to look up and look down, moving my neck up and down. The bone right there in the middle, the top of my spine sticks out and always has. I hate that bone! My mom has already paid A LOT of money to have me treated with the Chiropractor. I have been seeing him for 3 months now. In the beginning it was great. Now it seems like every day before I go my back goes out in some area. Like it knows it's time to go...if I didn't workout or exercise this probably wouldn't be happening. I haven't exercised in a few days though because of it. Not even walking. I just don't want to get to the point where I feel immobile again. The chiro has helped with my low back, maybe I should wear the heel lift again and see if it makes a difference... for a few days...
Money should not be the incentive for choosing medical treatment. You will be very angry with yourself if you end up with permanent nerve damage due to the work of the chiropractor.
Maybe you could postpone the treatments until you get a better idea what you are actually dealing with?
Also, I haven't had neck/shoulder pains in a very long time...but I just wanted to mention that strained or stressed muscles across the shoulders can be very painful. It could be that your pain is coming from stress, improper posture, etc. rather than from a compressed nerve.
From your description, I think it is likely that the mild scoliosis is a result of muscle cramping, poor structural alignment, etc. rather than the other way around.
This can be a temporary finding due to excess tight muscles and soft tissue that constrict and actually pull the bones out of alignment.
Until you find out what is causing your problems, I would highly recommend that you stay away from any exercise where you are jumping or anything where you are twisting and/or kicking, bouncing or pulsing. Try to do gentle movements that go in one direction -- like on a treadmill, walking, gentle swimming, etc. Even working with light weights can be dangerous if you are inadvertently using the wrong muscles to do the lifting. You need to be really aware of which muscles in isolation are doing the work.
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Yes. I will stick to walking for now. Obviously my back is not ready for impact. Bah! I just miss a good sweat when working out. I miss that feeling afterward. Plus I feel like I have to now deprive myself of all things delicious since I can't work out at that level, but there are other people who are way worse off than me and I should be THANKFUL.