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Old 05-15-2006, 01:41 AM   #1
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Significant Insect Infection?

I'm looking for a bit of insight into a few odd symptoms that appeared a few days ago. To note, I haven't felt especially ill recently, and even at this point I'm not experiencing any pain or notable discomfort (just feeling a bit "under the weather"). On to the issue at hand: the symptoms began with an odd little rash appearing on my upper wrist. It was about the size of a dime, with a bright pink center and outer ring, and relatively normal skin separating the two. It didn't itch at all, and I figured it was probably just an insect bite. A friend of mine suggested that it resembled a "bullseye" rash, which I confirmed by finding a few pictures online. By late the next day, it had turned into a classic insect-bite - nothing odd about it anymore. It still doesn't itch, and is now a uniform reddish-pink color. However, today I awoke to find that the back of my tongue and throat is seemingly swollen (slightly, not enough to cause respiratory distress) and causes discomfort when eating or talking. I feel like I have a slight flu or virus (you know, that general feeling of "blah") but nothing too striking or painful. Should I check with a doctor, or see if it improves in a few weeks? Have you heard of anything similar to this?

 
Old 05-15-2006, 03:08 AM   #2
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

I'd check to make sure it's not Lyme, just in case. A simple blood test will tell you and a round of antibiotics will be all you need if you catch it so quickly. Good luck.

 
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

Most doctors will start you on a course of antibiotics even before they have lab results back from a lyme test - they take the "bull-eye" rash that seriously. Go to the doctor - Lyme disease is something to be very afraid of.

 
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I agree it could very well be Lyme. You need to get to a doctor quickly

 
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

Hi asilentsea. I am glad you posted.

Only about 50% of people who have Lyme disease get a rash, but a bull's-eye rash is a definite sign of Lyme disease. The rash alone merits treatment. Get photos of the rash, it is important documentation. Place something near it, like a coin or ruler, before photographing to give it size definition. Then you will have evidence of it later if needed.

Lyme disease is a multi-system bacterial infection caused from the bite of an infected tick. It is the second fastest growing infectious disease in the US after AIDS and the number one vector-borne illness in the US; however, the majority of the medical community is ignorant about it. The symptoms usually start off as flu-like.

It is very important that you get proper treatment with antibiotics. Getting the right treatment in the beginning of the infection may reduce the chance of long-term complications. Untreated or undertreated Lyme disease can be very serious and debilitating. I know from firsthand experience.

No Lyme test is completely reliable and results can vary by lab. The bull's-eye rash alone merits treatment. It is very important to see a knowledgeable doctor. Besides Lyme, ticks can transmit several co-infections including Babesiosis, Ehrlichiosis (HME & HGE), Bartonella, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and Mycoplasma. Many people who have Lyme are co-infected, and it may affect treatment choice and progress. It is important to be tested for these by a Lyme reputable lab such as IgeneX in Palo Alto, CA.

From what I understand, an infection caught within two weeks of the bite should be treated with a minimum of six weeks of the proper dose antibiotic. The antibiotics kill the bacteria when they are reproducing, which is estimated at four weeks. Six weeks of treatment will cover one growth cycle. If symptoms are still present, further treatment is warranted. A longer infection needs longer treatment. Doxycycline is often the first antibiotic prescribed because it can be effective against Lyme and the Ehrlichiosis co-infections. The dose for Lyme disease should be 300-600 mg daily. Many doctors prescribe only 200 mg. If you would like a doctor recommendation for your area, post where you are located and I will tell you of the closest knowledgeable doctors to you that I know of. The Lyme disease board at this site is very informative.

Be aware of the Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction (herx). Often, when people who have Lyme take antibiotics, their symptoms become worse or they get new ones. When the antibiotics kill the bacteria, toxins are released making them feel sicker. It can be very scary when it happens, but it is a good sign the antibiotics are working. Although it can vary individually, many people experience this at the beginning of treatment and every three to four weeks.

Please take this seriously. It is hard to imagine how serious this infection can become if untreated or undertreated.

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Old 05-17-2006, 07:34 AM   #6
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

I was planning on waiting for a few days to see if the problem cleared up on its own (I really hoped that it was a virus or flu), but new symptoms have appeared recently and I feel it is necessary for me to visit the doctor today. The symptoms include nausea, ear/mouth/throat pain, chest pain, tingling/shooting pain in finger tips...if I continue I risk developing the appearance of a hypochondriac. I will inform you of the results when I can.

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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

Hi asilentsea. Lyme disease is a bacterial infection and it needs to be treated with antibiotics. It can cause many different symptoms. Remember, a bullseye rash is a definite sign of Lyme. The rash alone merits treatment. Please get to a doctor and get at least 6 weeks of antibiotics. I cannot stress enough the importance of getting the proper treatment early in the infection.

Below is a Lyme disease sympotm list. You can have any combination of symptoms.

Unexplained fevers, sweats, chills, or flushing
Unexplained weight change--loss or gain
Fatigue, tiredness, poor stamina
Unexplained hair loss
Swollen glands
Sore throat
Testicular pain/pelvic pain
Unexplained menstrual irregularity
Unexplained milk production: breast pain
Irritable bladder or bladder dysfunction
Sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
Upset stomach
Change in bowel function-constipation, diarrhea
Chest pain or rib soreness
Shortness of breath, cough
Heart palpitations, pulse skips, heart block
Any history of a heart murmur or valve prolapse?
Joint pain or swelling
Stiffness of the joints, neck, or back
Muscle pain or cramps
Twitching of the face or other muscles
Headache
Neck creeks and cracks, neck stiffness, neck pain
Tingling, numbness, burning or stabbing sensations, shooting pains
Facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)
Eyes/Vision: double, blurry, increased floaters, light sensitivity
Ears/Hearing: buzzing, ringing, ear pain, sound sensitivity
lncreased motion sickness, vertigo, poor balance
Lightheadedness, wooziness
Tremor
Confusion, difficulty in thinking
Difficulty with concentration, reading
Forgetfulness, poor short term memory
Disorientation: getting lost, going to wrong places
Difficulty with speech or writing
Mood swings, irritability, depression
Disturbed sleep-too much, too little, early awakening
Exaggerated symptoms or worse hangover from alcohol

Good luck. Keep us posted on how you are doing okay?

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Old 05-17-2006, 04:48 PM   #8
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

Bad news, but not due to a diagnosis - rather a lack thereof. Despite an appearance of death warmed over and significant illness, I was told that I was likely suffering from a "stomach virus" - the doctor assured me that she'd seen an innumerable amount of sufferers today, and therefore didn't feel the need to ask about symptoms, check blood pressure, urine test, etc. I DID have my blood drawn, however, and she found no abnormalities. Now, in addition to feeling very sick, I feel a bit agitated. New symptoms are appearing every day and I'm beginning to question my sanity - I haven't felt this ill in a long time, and I'm due for Australia 3 weeks! Ticker - you mentioned that you might be able to find a doctor who would be a bit more knowledgeable on this subject, do you know of any in the Dallas/metroplex area of Texas?

 
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Re: Significant Insect Infection?

Hi asilentsea. I don't blame you for feeling agitated. Your symptoms should be taken seriously.

I have heard of only one possible Lyme doctor in the Dallas area. I am not sure how knowledgeable he is but it would be a starting place. His name is Dr. Hamid Moyad and he is in Bedford. There was an excellent doctor in Houston named Dr. William Harvey, but I don't think he is practicing anymore. He was in practice with Dr. Salvato. I suggest calling her office to see if they could recommend someone in your area who can treat Lyme.

Good luck! I hope you can see a knowledgeable doctor soon. Make sure you tell them about the rash you had. If you need opinions on what the doctor says or prescribes, just let me know. Let me know how you are doing okay?

 
Old 05-23-2006, 02:20 AM   #10
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Update: I called the office of Dr. Salvato (the immune deficiency specialist - experience with Lyme) in Houston, and she is unable to take new patients. Her office generally refers individuals to a hospital a few hours outside of Houston, but it would be a 7+ hour drive for us. After searching for a general physician in my area, I lucked out and was able to visit her today. She was the first to mention Lyme disease, and authorized that we have the Elisa & Western Blot tests done (she is sending bloodwork to the Mayo clinic, where the tests will be performed). Also, my ankles had begun to swell along with an odd lump on my right side and swollen lymph nodes in the groin area. We are due to have an abdominal ultrasound performed to rule out any growth that could be causing the lump, and she x-rayed my feet/ankles to check for anything in the area itself that could cause swelling (x-ray was clear, so it is deemed to be an internal problem somewhere in the body). We expect to know the results of the Lyme tests & ultrasound within one week, and i'll update then.

 
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Hi asilentsea. I am sorry Dr. Salvato could not see you. I am glad you have been tested, but remember that no Lyme test is completely reliable and results can vary by lab. It is important to be tested by a Lyme lab such as IgeneX in Palo Alto, CA. I suggest that you get copies of your results. If you would like me to help you interpret them, just let me know.

Regarding the Western Blot test, it will list numerical bands with a + - or IND after each one. The CDC requires a large number of bands to show for it to be considered positive yet many people who have Lyme do not have this many bands show. Lyme doctors often focus on which bands show, some are specific for Lyme. A lyme knowledgeable doctor will not rely solely on test results to diagnose tick-borne illnesses.

Hang in there okay? I know it is hard waiting for test results. Do post when you have more information.

 
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Hi asilentsea. I am glad you posted.

Only about 50% of people who have Lyme disease get a rash, but a bull's-eye rash is a definite sign of Lyme disease. The rash alone merits treatment. Get photos of the rash, it is important documentation. Place something near it, like a coin or ruler, before photographing to give it size definition. Then you will have evidence of it later if needed.

Lyme disease is a multi-system bacterial infection caused from the bite of an infected tick. It is the second fastest growing infectious disease in the US after AIDS and the number one vector-borne illness in the US; however, the majority of the medical community is ignorant about it. The symptoms usually start off as flu-like.

It is very important that you get proper treatment with antibiotics. Getting the right treatment in the beginning of the infection may reduce the chance of long-term complications. Untreated or undertreated Lyme disease can be very serious and debilitating. I know from firsthand experience.

No Lyme test is completely reliable and results can vary by lab. The bull's-eye rash alone merits treatment. It is very important to see a knowledgeable doctor. Besides Lyme, ticks can transmit several co-infections including Babesiosis, Ehrlichiosis (HME & HGE), Bartonella, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and Mycoplasma. Many people who have Lyme are co-infected, and it may affect treatment choice and progress. It is important to be tested for these by a Lyme reputable lab such as IgeneX in Palo Alto, CA.

From what I understand, an infection caught within two weeks of the bite should be treated with a minimum of six weeks of the proper dose antibiotic. The antibiotics kill the bacteria when they are reproducing, which is estimated at four weeks. Six weeks of treatment will cover one growth cycle. If symptoms are still present, further treatment is warranted. A longer infection needs longer treatment. Doxycycline is often the first antibiotic prescribed because it can be effective against Lyme and the Ehrlichiosis co-infections. The dose for Lyme disease should be 300-600 mg daily. Many doctors prescribe only 200 mg. If you would like a doctor recommendation for your area, post where you are located and I will tell you of the closest knowledgeable doctors to you that I know of. The Lyme disease board at this site is very informative.

Be aware of the Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction (herx). Often, when people who have Lyme take antibiotics, their symptoms become worse or they get new ones. When the antibiotics kill the bacteria, toxins are released making them feel sicker. It can be very scary when it happens, but it is a good sign the antibiotics are working. Although it can vary individually, many people experience this at the beginning of treatment and every three to four weeks.

Please take this seriously. It is hard to imagine how serious this infection can become if untreated or undertreated.
I have been treated for Lyme Disease for the past month, 100 Mg of Doxycycl twice a day even though my blood work came back negative. I am feeling worse every day and need to find a doctor here in Sarasota, FL who may be able to help me. If it's not Lyme Disease what do I have? If it is Lyme's why do my blood test come back that I don't have it?

 
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