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Old 11-30-2004, 11:17 PM   #1
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Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

If a person who is bipolar decides to discontinue their medicine and experiences a full blown manic phase are they responsible? Is there a possibility that the urge to discontinue the medication is influenced by the bipolar?

This question has probably been hashed out before but because it has happened to myself, I am interested in 'hearing' what others think about the topic.

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Old 11-30-2004, 11:32 PM   #2
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Re: Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

speaking from the bipolar roller coaster -- been on it 10 years now...
the bipolar is partly to blame for the urge to stop taking the meds...
my thought on it is this... meds help you feel better or normal (whatever that may be) so you stop taking the meds, because in your mind you DON'T need them anymore.
doing something while you are manic -- i feel that you are always responsible for your actions... and that is a hard lesson to learn, because you want to blame the bipolar...
yes, it is to blame partly, because it affects your thought process... but, if you have any control at all over your bipolar, then you have some level of will power... even though that will power may only be working on a 10% level, it is there... that is where the responsibility is
hope this helps...
life is a deck of cards -- play like hell...

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Old 12-01-2004, 04:30 AM   #3
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Re: Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

Indirectly, this came up in my last "therapy"...

I'm "required" to stay on a treatment plan ~ which includes medical supervision linked to "talk" therapy...

I happen to be of an EXTREMELY drug-resistent ilke - just like my father...

When I asked the therapist IF my going off of all meds would upset the bureaucratic roller-coaster, I was told...

" Too bad they won't accept the reality that most bipolars WILL stop taking their meds within 6 weeks of the start of treatment... "

So, in order to continue receiving ANY monies for disability allowance, it's a goofy balance wherein truth is not particularly respected...

IF you were asking are you responsible in a LEGAL sense - I would have to say YES, we never lose THAT responsibility... The judgement of our ability to determine right from wrong is a factor, but NEVER assume that you won't be held accountable for your actions, fully...

Old 12-03-2004, 05:27 AM   #4
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Re: Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

A lot of people THINK that they are not sick anymore after a while.
There is a good book on this but i can not recall the name. Sorry.
God Bless


Old 12-03-2004, 04:14 PM   #5
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Re: Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

I understand responsibility.
I also know that during my last mania, before I was diagnosed, I had a very real psychotic break with reality.
If I had done something during that time that I didn't even know I had done, could a court of law truly find me mentally competent and guilty?? (Of course Texas would)
Just a thought out there...

Old 12-03-2004, 06:07 PM   #6
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Re: Discontinuing medicine and patient responsibility

Ruth ~ Don't mess with Texas (~ W)...

Personally, I give them a wide berth, seldom dropping south of I-80 at that longitude...

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