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Old 08-28-2006, 10:08 PM   #1
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fallen angel?

where are you? I miss your input. things suck for me right now and I need you.

 
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:21 AM   #2
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Re: fallen angel?

Hi distroyed
so sorry ive not been around- have been feeling quite ill on my meds the past few days so havent been on the board much.
sorry to hear things have been bad? whats the latest situation with your wife?
keep me updated
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:12 AM   #3
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There you are!
My wife was taken off a anti depressant that she had been taking for 2 months. for 3 days she seemed completly normal. she moved back in with me and was saying that she loved me and that she belonged with me and felt safe with me. She said a couple of time that she felt "normal". that lasted 2 days and then she fell into a deep depression. she moved out again but this time she left the kids. she said she cant handle them right now. she is very distand and cold. She doesn't seem to care about me or the kids. she never asks about my dad, like she doesnt remember or something. She is saying that she is confused about her feelings for me, and that it doesn't "feel right". she just started Lamictal last Wed. and I think it is causing anger in her, as she is nasty to me. I have done nothing but try to help and love her.
I just wonder when she was saying she felt normal, she wanted to be with me, it didn't last, but I wonder if that was the real her or just a passing mood in the swing of things
it's strange to talk to her, because she is aware that somwething is wrong, but at the same time cant help it. She has said things like " I wonder If the old me will ever come back" it's like there are two people in there and every once in a while the "real" her comes out, but only for a short time, usually when she is tired.
I have pretty much givin up on our relationship only because I can't keep opening my heart and then getting crushed. I do want her to get better for the kids sake. I know she does love them more than anything, there is just something blocking that right now.

 
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Re: fallen angel?

wow distroyed cant believe i missed all that! sounds like you have been on a complete rollercoaster.
It sounds as though your wife is still very ill and is nowhere near finding the right combination of meds. i know you have been to hell and back in the past few months, but it can take so long to find a combination that is therapeutic as bipolar is so complex and affects everyone individually. my pdoc always says that it is a disorder that develops over a long amount of time, so it can take a long time to find a suitable treatment.
Im wondering if the anti depressant you said she came off was keeping her "high" and inducing the mania, so that when she came off it she dropped to a more stable level temporarily (when she moved back in with you and said she felt normal) and then she plunged into the depressed state- i have been through these exact motions before myself. Do you know what anti depressant it was- was it an ssri? These are notorious for inducing mania, even when taken with certain mood stabilisers they have still been known to induce manic symptoms. I cant take them full stop.
I feel from what you told me that the person who moved back in with you and told you all of those things was a glimpse of the real her, not something caused by a mood swing. Ive always felt her love for you has still been there and has just been masked and deeply destructed by this terrible illness, and i think you have always known this underneath even though at times it has been hard to believe. The fact she left the kids behind shows how ill she is and that her behaviour is not normal or personal to anyone, she just needs help. She loves her kids unconditionally but if she can walk from them then you can see how she can walk from you, it is the illness acting, not the real her.
Ive often spoken about how my illness affected my relationship, and it actually caused it to break down for 2 months. My boyfriend talked about how i was like two different people- one was warm and caring and the other one was cold hearted and calculating, as he put it.Im sure you can relate to how he felt! I got fed up with him and felt that he was boring and that i wanted to go off and do more exciting things. Now im stable, things are totally different. I genuinely love him and know that the relationship is right, i feel safe with him, like your wife told you. He has given me a lot of support, he goes with me to the hospital to get my lithium levels checked, and has done a lot of his own research on bipolar and found out that one of his biggest heroes, Kurt Cobain had it, hence the nirvana song "lithium". We had our ups and downs to begin with but as long as im open with him things are smooth between us.
I basically feel that, before my diagnosis and treatment, my eyes were blurred. But as soon as i became stable, it was like someone had given me glasses and i could see things for what they really are. Im sure your wife wil reach that stage, it just might take her longer as it sounds like her bipolar is quite severe and she has had a hard time with meds. Im bipolar II, which is the less severe form and was lucky in the fact that my first med, lithium, seems to have worked.But for most people, its not as smooth running.
Please dont give up yet. I totally agree that you need to think of yourself and not let yourself get stamped on, but in the future things could be very different, so hold onto that hope long term. The only person who can truly help your wife is herself, and it may be that she has to do that on her own while you move on, but later down the line, who knows? i feel the old her is still there somewhere waiting to come back.
Take care distroyed and let us know how things are,
Angel

 
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Angel, thank you! you always give great prospective.
She has actually told me on a couple of times to move on. she said I shouldn't wait for her, and she doesn't want me to miss out on somthing that could be good for me. She stated that she has done so much damage and that she doesn't know what she is capable of, but doesn't want to hurt me anymore.
Question, when she stabalizes will she be able to see all I have done for her through this. I'm not being selfish, I am just wondering because I have asked her if she see's that i have been hanging in through everything trying to help her, and she says "I don't see it" her prospective is different. everyone else I know including her own family think I have already gone above and beyond for her and all of them say they would have walked away by now.
but will she ever see my compassion and will she ever see what i've gone through for her, and my family.
I feel I need someone my Dad is in his final days and she doesn't even ask about him. She said yesterday that she would be there for me when he goes, but it was like it was going to be a chore for her. like she is heartless. She hasn't been able to be here for me while Dad has been sick and she is not here for me now, so it's kind of strange that she would say that. at this point what could she do for me when he does go. She is in selfish mode.
How hard is this going to hit her when she stabelizes. She has one heck of a mess to clean up. I'm not trying to be mean, but knowing how she was verry caring ond giving of others, how will she deal with the damage she has brough on to herself and the family. I'm afraid she will just run and not face it
I am trying soooo hard to fight back anger.

 
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