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Old 03-12-2007, 07:38 AM   #1
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14 yr old son diagnosed with BP, ADHD, OCD... what now?

Hi all,

Last Monday, I had to hospitalize my 14 yr old son, he flipped out and put his foot thru the wall and tore apart his bedroom... screamed so much that the blood vessels in his face popped. It was the most difficult thing I've ever done. I cried for the entire three days he was in that place. They diagnosed him with BP, OCD and ADHD. They put him on Abilify and I can tell a bit of a difference, but the side affects have me very concerned. He either fidgits like he is on heroine or has his head down half out of it. If we go anywhere, the motion of the car makes him EXTREMELY nauseaus. I don't know how he would be expected to function in school like this. He has an appt with his pdoc tommorrow afternoon, so I will talk to her, but now what? He doesn't want to take the meds, he cries and pleads with me not to make him... says he doesn't understand why I'm trying to change who he is... why I don't like who he is. It breaks my heart. How do I explain to him what is happening? How do I show him that this is the best thing for him?

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:45 AM   #2
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Re: 14 yr old son diagnosed with BP, ADHD, OCD... what now?

I'm not quite that extreme (I'm seventeen), but I can COMPLETELY understand why he doesn't want to take his meds. I went through the same denial phase, which most bpers go through. I tried three times to go off my meds and it never worked. Also, most bpers need more than one med, especially with a multi-diagnosis. I'm also on Ability and Lamictal works wonders for me, though I'm not quite stable right now (seriously considering hospitalisation at this point). Also, if he has anxiety problems, mention that to the pdoc because he/she can help with that as well - I'm on two different anxiety meds (Ativan during the day, Klonopin at night). I hope for the best for your son and hope that he gets through his denial phase quickly. Also, the side effects usually clear up in a week or so so just hang in there.

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Re: 14 yr old son diagnosed with BP, ADHD, OCD... what now?

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why I don't like who he is. It breaks my heart. How do I explain to him what is happening? How do I show him that this is the best thing for him?
Tell him very frankly that you are not trying to change who he is, that you are just trying to help him go back to the way he was. It takes time to accept the diagnosis and as long as you are persistent, it will sink in, especially once he gets stable. Just hang in there and trust yourself that you are doing the best thing for him.

Let him stay home from school for a couple days, at least until he is stable enough to return because sending him back now will just agitate his condition and he won't learn anything anyhow; think about homebound education where they send a teacher to your home to educate him.

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Re: 14 yr old son diagnosed with BP, ADHD, OCD... what now?

Hi...I have been on this road with my 15 year old daughter since she was your son's age. And I know it isn't an easy one.

First, BP is treatable, however it is not like a physical illness that one pill fixes all. There are many meds and the most difficult part of all of this is finding the right meds for your son. Each med has it's side effects but they should subside as the body gets use to them.

The doctors try Abilify first because if it works it often eliminates the need for other drugs. It works pretty rapidly in reducing the hypomania/mania which your son seems to be exhibiting. It also has a mood stabilixing effect so that is why alot of doctors choose to use this med.

My daughter is hypersensitive to meds and the Abilify didn't work out for her. It had too much of a sedative effect and caused twitching of the face and tongue within the first few weeks.

Discuss your concerns about the way in which this med is working for your son. The doctors will make any adjustments based upon your input as well as your son's. Like I said, it will take some time to find the right meds but you will have to give each one a fighting chance to see if once it levels off it does the trick.

Reassure your son, that you will work with him to find the right meds that won't make him feel like another person. Tell him that you know he doesn't want to feel angry and frustrated and that what he has been diagnosed with is a chemical imbalance of the brain and just like somebody who has diabetes has to take insulin, he is going to have to take meds to balance the chemicals in his brain or his condition will worsten and that you do not want that to happen. Tell him that this is not his fault...that the disorder is often genetic and out of his control. And give him hope that he will feel better once you find the right meds.

My daughter was hospitalized 4 times before being properly diagnosed. It took 2 suicide attempts and impulsive behaviors and the perscription of an antidepressant that triggered a mania that had her arrested before she was properly diagnosed.

I will share what the pyschiatrist told me when I was afraid to put her on these strong meds. She told me that and unmedicated person with Bipolar was in more danger than any med perscribed. And from doing my research and looking back on my daughter's life before she was medicated I see that what she said is true.

Educate yourself so that you can have the knowledge to help your son through this.

As far as other meds that help out with anger, frustration, irritability....Seroquel is a great one with very little side effects and works fast and with both mania and depression so if your doctor suggests that one I would highly recommend it.

My daughter is on Seroquel and Lamictal, both of which are wonderful meds with minmal side effects and are working out pretty well for us. We are having some increased frustration, impulsivity, and hypomania and see the pdoc today and expect to have some type of adjustment.

Hang in there....give your son hope and point out any improvements you see and promise him that you will make sure that you find the meds that will make him feel well and it will take time to do that but you need for him to be patient while you find them for him.

There are lots of other moms here who will be more than happy to hold your hand through this. You will grow stronger with the more you understand BP and see your son's improvement.

Oh....and most doctors will want to stabilize the BP before addressing the ADHD or OCD. My daughter was also diagnosed with ADHD and she is having symptoms of OCD as well which we are going to discuss with the pdoc this afternoon.

Please know that you are not alone. This is such a wonderful place, it has become my lifeline and I am sure you will find that too. So take my hand and know that you are not alone.

((((HUGS)))) ~ Goody

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Re: 14 yr old son diagnosed with BP, ADHD, OCD... what now?

I completely agree with Goody about stablization before addressing ADHD or OCD. Our daughter (15) was treated for ADHD for two years before (and before knowing) she was bipolar and the results were not good. She had to be hospitalized, was in denial, was non compliant etc....One she started on medication things improved dramatically. She is also on Seroquel in addition to Trileptal and I saw the results in less than a week. She has been doing so well and when she has her moments I always have to remind myself where we were almost one year ago-right where you are now. After the bipolar became stable her psychiatrist addressed the ADHD with Metadate XL and she is doing great.

Every once in a while she asks why she has this illness, what caused it and so on. I address all of these factually and remind her this is a treatable illness and thank goodness there is treatment. Then she rationalizes it all and is ok with it. It is difficult, but no treatment is definitely worse than the side effects of medications-they all have some-and there is a combination that will work for your son. It will take patience (which I know he does not have right now) especially on the family's part and talk therapy is a must from the doctor. I think bipolar patients respond to factual no nonsense information-at least my daughter and husband do-and anything that is too abstract and descriptive just leaves them with confusion.

I hope this is helpful. Keep your hopes up. Your son needs it right now and no matter what he says, he is looking to you for support and guidance.

Keep posting.

Cristina

 
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