Runninggal, maybe if we relive our horrible initial days here, we can stop breaking into a sweat at the sound of a bathtub filling with water. I still can't have anything around me bright red, like a towel, or red lint near the toilet, or I will get superstitious that it will bring on rectal bleeding! How's that for stress. More like Post Traumatic Hemorrhoidectostress Disorder
I do think we should get some kind of government benefits due to the horrors we've had to endure (humor, people, humor). I feel like I have been wounded at war, but it's not the kind of war wound I can show off.
I'm doing loads better now at 8 weeks, but I still can't sit in any hard chair, but why would I want to if that hurts me inside? I'm doing good in my husband's Lazy Boy recliner, my soft nylon seat wheelchair, and my new padded canvas seat Director's Chair with the 4 inch cushion. I still have bowel movement anxiety, as I have to make sure my stools are soft and self-propelled.
I realize now that I don't want to repeat the huge mistake I made after my 4 hemorrhoid bandings---I thought the procedures turned my butt hole into Super Butt Hole, able to take straining at 250 pound pressures, able to take stools so hard they could cut diamonds. After each banding healed, I was reckless with my diet. Boy, was I wrong. Within an average of 5 months I would end up with new bleeding hemorrhoids that had to be treated with new bands.
I learned too late that after bandings you need to keep your stools soft and self-propelling for at least a year afterwards. But now I think you have to do this for the Rest Of Your Life. You can be sure now I will take that knowledge to make sure I will never abuse my butt hole again, and risk creating new hemorrhoids. I now wear a Be Kind To Your Butt-Hole shirt, as this has become my new motto in life (not really, folks!).
Here is a Hemorrhoidectomy Survivor's test question:
Thanks so much for your words of encouragement. As you can see by the timing of my post, I'm not sleeping. LOL Sleep? What is that?
Like I said earlier, the experience you and runningal went through has me counting my blessings. I don't think this is something one heals from very fast...geesh, I can't even get any comfortable sleep, and then I wondered why my doctor said I couldn't go back to work for two weeks!! And here I thought that I'd be able to get LOTS done around the house during those two weeks. Ha!
Now the thought of that 'first' bowel movement has me shaking in my shoes. Ughhhhh.....just passing gas is hell itself!! And honestly....I can't believe I'm sharing with strangers the happenings of my butt!!LOL Oh well....all modesty is out during this situation. =o) Thanks for making me feel like I'm not some weirdo and that I'm not alone.
One more thing....I just read your post above....too dayum funny... Be Kind To Your Butt Hole t-shirt!!
And as you know...laughing makes my arse hurt even more!!!!! LOLOLOL
I hope mrse (?) and runninggal are doing good with their recovery. mrse...where are you and how are you? Since we both had our surgeries around the same time I'm interested in knowing where your at in recovery. Me, well, I'm still pee'ing standing up (LOL) and am starting to have what someone wrote above as the dreaded 'bowel movement fear' thing. Haven't had one yet...don't know if I even wanna have one.
I'm stickin' with the pain pills for now. It's the only thing that helps me forget the pain in the arse I'm becoming. =)
Suzy, this is what helped me sleep. At first the prescription pain pill, one before bed time helped. But then the pain pill constipated me, and forget about that!
I then found that tylenol right at bedtime really did help with the pain and also helped me to sleep for about 4-6 hours, all without constipating. Aspirin and Ibuprofen are out of the question, because they promote bleeding, by the way.
Then I would get up and have another tylenol, after 4-6 hours of sleep and go back to bed. The tylenol also made me have a bit of gas, but I solved that problem by having a Gas-X right with the Tylenol. At the same time I would nibble, and I mean nibble because I didn't want to eat too much to go to the bathroom, a small piece of a sweet bun to keep my stomach from getting upset with the Tylenol.
After the first 2 to 2-1/2 weeks I could do without the tylenol at night. When I had been taking the tylenol, I hadn't taken any pills during the day though, so I would be more sensitive to the tylenol come bed time.
However, the first 3-5 days I did take the prescription pain pills even during the day, but dropped them as soon as I saw that it made my stools too hard. Yikes!
I hope you really do feel good enough to go to work that soon, but that doesn't seem realistic. If I had had a job, I would have lost it, because it took me 7 weeks to be able to leave my house. I still have my good and bad times.
My surgeon had said to my mom and husband that in 7-10 days I would be feeling a lot better. Ha! If he had said that I would take 7 weeks to feel better, then it really would have been much better, then I wouldn't have worried about why I wasn't so much better in 10 days as he had said. Oh well.
Trust me, I know just what you are going through, and it is no small experience. I had to get into a tub full of water for the first 2 weeks to pass gas, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I am now at the stage where I can pass gas without having to sit down for support or climb into a tub, but I still am not completely normal that way either.
I really think it might take me another 2 months to be able to have a bm without a little bit of bleeding and straining the surgical area a bit. But at least, I am at the livable stage. Hang in there, Suzy. The days will creep by, but they will add up.
Hi everyone. Hi Suzy. We actually had our surgery the same day. I came home feeling wonderful. Then the numbness wore off lol..I was in agony the first night and took pain pills every 2 hours but had to stop after 6 because the dosage becomes toxic. Day 2 was a little better but I was having BM anxiety. I sat in the tub almost all day which was nice. It cleaned me up and relaxed me but still no BM. I was off the pain pills until 9pm when I needed one to go to sleep. I also had taken 2 doses of metamucil and 3 colace for softening....Day 3 Sunday...I woke up feeling ok but really worrying that the doctor had sewn the hole closed because I hadn't had a BM (not completely serious lol) then my mom made me matzo ball soup and that did it! In 5 minutes I had my first BM. It was a little rough but easier than before the surgery. I sat in the tub for 20 minutes and when I got out I felt such tremendous relief I went to my son's ball game. I think I pushed it a bit cause when I got home I was exhausted and unfortunately had to go to the bathroom again. This time, it was pretty rough. All the packing came out (which is OK) and I was extemely sore. More externally then internally. I had to take 3 pain pills between last night and this morning but it's different pain than before the surgery. This is healing pain, the other was just KILL ME pain. Oh, by the way. I have NEVER had a problem peeeing. I peed in the hospital 20 minutes after I woke up and have been peeing quite a bit (due to the water) without any problems. Even sitting down! BM's I hover over the toilet as long as possible so I don't put to much strain on my butt. It would be helpful if I had a chair or something I could lean on in the bathroom which would make things much easier. I am somewhat dreading today's BM because I am still sore but I am taking my colace and fiber and will hope for the best and keep the pain pills handy. I really feel I am 1000 times better than I thought I would be at this point and am confident that I am progressing at an advanced rate. I don't want to push it too much especially this week because my son has a tournament coming up Friday thru Sunday and I'm hoping to make the trip...we'll see. Suzy, I can only hope that your recovery goes as well as I think mine has. RunningGal and Tammy have had it excessively tough. They both had 2 surgeries with complications and recoveries from hell. I can't imagine going through what they have. I can tell you this post is a lifesaver and lets you know you are not alone, you are not a baby, and everything you're going through is normal. I will keep posting and looking for yours as well. Good luck.
Today marks exactly the 8th week since I had my surgery. I just came from my surgeon's office and he told me 2 things:
Good news: the site is healthy looking, clean, and is progressing good without complications.
Bad (to me): the edge of where he redid my sphincter still is open and will need about 2-3 months more to close completely, which is where my bleeding is coming from. My bleeding is not as bad, it has improved and is just a little bit now when I go, but, I'm not happy about still waiting for this thing to completely heal. Boy, I never pictured something taking so long!
Remember, I had to have the surgery done twice, and the second time involve removing some of my sphincter which had swelled and deformed from what the first surgeon did. So, you can say I didn't undergo a typical hemorrhoidectomy.
Just don't push things too much, mrse, if you can't make your son's tournament, just explain to him about your surgery; I'd hate to see you get any complications. I'm sure your body will let you know if it's a wise thing to go on a trip at just the one week point.
Suzy, you can't be doing too bad if you can still laugh, even if, albeit, with pain! I lost my sense of humor for the first few weeks; I knew I was getting better when I started to find things funny again.
I feel sorry for you all cause I been there done that. But reading your posts make me laugh, sorry. I like the idea Susie had about the T-Shirt "be kind to your Butt-Hole. haha Tammy am I reading your post right was your surgery done in a doctors office?? I had mine done in the hospital and had to stay 2 days with a morphine drip Iv and they had to pack un pack my rectum couple times a day. I was given so much stool sofener my bowels just came running out with out any strain but I could sit on toliet and I got in the bath tub after bowel movements. But I have to say my first BM I fainted while sitting on pot and woke up laying over the side of the bath tub. The others were painful but not as bad as the first one. I had drainage for 3 months and had to wear little rectal pads that the drug store had to special order for me. They were circle shaped, forgot what they were called. Anyway good luck to you all. I am glad you found the source of your bleeding Tammy. I think I took mineral oil for 3 months then switch to "perdium" and took that for years then I just quit and I have no problems now...... I am so glad that pain is in the past......
Now I waiting on getting well from my spine surgery that is taking for ever and you gals don't want that surgery either........
Anterior Cervical Fusion w/donor bone & w/plating C5/6 Done March 6-2003
Anterior Cervical Fusion w/donor bone & w/plating C5/6 Done March 6-2003
Its good to hear that your doing so well mrse! You actually sound like your doing better then me, thats for sure.
I had my first BM on Monday, and it felt like I injured everything that I was supposed to have fixed. Oh my...to say I broke into a sweat and didn't know if I was going to pass out or not is an understatement. At this point I don't care if I have another BM ever again! I feel another one coming on now as I type this.....ughhhhh! I think I'll hold it as long as possible. LOL (I know that isn't a good idea, but what can one do?) I'm taking my stool softener regularly but it's just not helping.
I'm still having bleeding too. Is this normal? I thought I'd bleed for a day or two afterwards, but still now? Maybe Tammy or runninggal can answer that one.
I feel like I have another hemmorhoid too, after that BM! Or am I just feeling swollen tissue? I just feel raw and sore right now and am hoping this goes away soon so I can get back to life as I used to know it. LOL
One more question....as graphic as this post has gotten, I feel I can share and ask openly, so let me know if this is TMI. =) But I swear I 'smell' a weird odor down there. Could I have an infection maybe? With the burning and rawness, heck anything is possible at this point, right? Thanks for all your support ladies. It really helps!!
Tammy....for some reason my computer doesn't show posts to this forum like it should, so when I typed mine yours wasnt even showing. Hmmm...wierd. Anyway...I'm glad you had a somewhat good dr appt. Sure sounds like your healing is happening, just taking its sweet ol' time. What happens if your sphincter doesn't close up like its supposed to? Gee...I'm keepin my fingers crossed for ya, and hope things go better. Lord knows you've been through enough hell with this stuff already!
Sherry...morphine drip? Wow....sounds like something I could have used about two days ago. Please don't get me wrong...your right, the pain is just terrible, and sounds like you've been through hell too. I didn't get the packing that you had, I can only imagine how much that hurt to have to have it repacked. I can relate to the first BM....I probably should have passed out, but had the bathroom door that kept me up and hangin on. Oh well...I wish you a speedy recovery with your operation and hope things go better for you this time around.
Suzie.... I had forgoten about that smell, but your right I had that odd or funny smell also. It lasted as long as the drainage lasted. Your lucky you had the bathroom door to hang on to. Your a funny gal. Your right the packing and unpacking of the rectum was not a pleasant experience but luckly I had the morphine IV at the time but it still hurt. They had to cut that muscle way deep in there and I was told I needed to heal from the inside first then out and that is why I had the packing. I remember a nurse in training was do the unpacking and packing while a nurse was teaching her and I felt sorry for her to have to do such a nasty job, I looked back once and her faced was all puckered up like EUEWWW. She should of been in my place and felt the pain I endured....
Anterior Cervical Fusion w/donor bone & w/plating C5/6 Done March 6-2003
Suzie, you are not imagining things, there is definately an odor that goes along with the drainage. Thankfully, the odor and drainage disappeared around week 10 for me. That smell is awful!
Tammy, I am so glad you are progressing in your recovery. Even the smallest step on this long road is a victory.
On September 6th, it will be four months since my first surgery (the 16th for my second surgery). Anyway, I am happy to report that I DO NOT have pain after a bowel movement anymore. My surgeon had told me that I might have small steps backwards over the next several months, to a year. He was right, on Saturday, I strained just a bit with a bowel movement and I paid the price for the next 2 days. It was more discomfort than actual pain, but I was very scared that I damaged the wound site. As of today, I am back to normal again. In looking back, I think I didn't drink enough water on Friday and I had some dairy, which I hadn't had since the surgery. The slightest shift in my diet routine and I can get constipated. I have to be so "anal" (excuse the pun) about my diet. I thought that having the surgery would free me of the constant preoccupation with my bowel habits, but I have found that I must continue to be vigilant and probably always will.
Hi girls! Sounds like everyone is on the road to recovery....Runninggal and Tammy, it's been a long road for you but I'm glad things are finally settling down for you. Suzie, I have to tell you that although I really think I am progressing well, I still have to take a painkiller after a BM. This morning I had a BM and halfway through I was pleading with God to make it go back up! No such thing as TMI on this site lol....My husband happened to call just as I was maneuvering to the shower and I was hysterical crying. I managed to squirt myself down (as I definitely can't wipe) and then I sat in a cool tub and it was such a relief. Then the painkiller kicked in and I feel pretty good right now. I was hoping not to have to take the painkillers anymore but they haven't constipated me at all. I've been having metamucil wafers and prune juice for breakfast with 3 colace, a bowl of matzo ball soup for lunch, a light dinner usually chicken or more soup and a cup of raisin bran with no milk as a snack later on. Since I don't have any problem going to the bathroom each day I may as well use the painkillers to help in the recovery...1 a day isn't too bad and an occasional 1 at bedtime if I happen to go to the bathroom again. I feel like I'm healing but I am still in a lot of pain post BM. I don't have that odor thing but that could be because I sit in the tub for hours everyday. I also have been applying triple antibiotic and wearing a sanitary pad so I don't know if that is helping. Seems like the ointment stops the stinging a bit. I also wasn't sure if I developed hemorrhoids that I hadn't had before the surgery but I think it's just the tags that are inflamed and sore right now. They are considerably smaller than they were before the surgery but they hurt like hell. I am so sick of talking about my bathroom habits with my friends and family. I can't wait to get back to normal....talk to you soon. Hope we all stay on the road to recovery.....
Oh gosh girls, I'm in a world of hurt!!! =( I'm seriously constipated. As long as we're being graphic (LOL) I am in need of some emotional support as well as advice.
I haven't eaten much today. I can't. Food pushes things down, and then I have to go to have a BM, but the problem is I have what feels like a huge marble sized ball in the way of going. OMG it's like blocking things...and I'm so raw from pushing/pulling it back up, I can't get it out! I think I have what feels like more hemorrhoids (yes, I actually felt them!!). This hurts like hell and I think I'm starting to develope a BM Phobia! Don't laugh...I'm being totally serious! LOL (dang, I'm makin myself laugh!!) What do I do? Can I use preparation H to help with the burning/stinging and swelling? I have sat most of today away in the tub.
Mrse....sounds as if things are going great for you. Wish I could say the same for me. Please, any suggestions at this point would be sooo appreciated. Thanks so much for listening to my grose, and graphic details of this horror.
Suzy, okay, the number one thing for you to do now is to keep your stools soft and self-propelling. Now I learned one thing for myself, just popping in the stool softeners didn't work. I paid the price dearly for the first 3 weeks with stools that reinjured me. This isn't a joke: if you aren't careful now, you CAN break a stitch and have to be repaired. I don't want to scare you, but I don't want you to downplay your problem. My nurse told me this problem exists for the first 21 days, so one has to be careful to keep stools soft and self-moving.
Okay, here's how I solved my problem with the stool softeners not being enough to soften my stools.
I first took 3 stool softeners, all at dinner. It wasn't enough. I drank with them around 15 glasses of water. Still wasn't enough. Then I tried taking them right at bedtime. Didn't work. What would happen is the first part of the stool would be hard enough to injure me, and the last half then was soft. So I figured that what I ate for breakfast also needed to be softened.
So I then took one 100 mg colace at the end of my breakfast, with 2 cups of water. Then at my last meal, supper, I had two 100 mg colace at the end of dinner with which I drank 4 cups of water. In-between meals I chugalugged what added up to 14 cups of water.
Believe it or not, that alone wasn't enough, and I can't tell you how important it was then to add to the colace:
3 cups of hot, soupy oatmeal at breakfast. What I'd do is first thing when I wake up have 2 servings of Quaker instant oatmeal, on the soupy side, and hot, hot. Plus at the same time have a hot, hot glass of 2 cups of water. That would get my stools going, plus add needed bulk to make sure my butt hole wouldn't shrink as it healed. My husband bought me these things to my bed, because if I got up before eating, my bowels sometimes wanted to go, but if I made the mistake of trying to go before having the oatmeal and hot water, I could get half a bowel movement, somewhat hard, and the rest would stay stuck in my butt and hurt me.
Then after I would go with my oatmeal, I would have (and still do) another serving of a package of instant regular oatmeal with a turkey patty and a blended drink of rice milk and a banana.
The reason I split it up my breakfast this, is I usually couldn't finish the first 2 servings of oatmeal and the hot water before I would have to go. But, I found that 2 packages of oatmeal wasn't enough bulk, so I had to add one more package that I would eat after I went. Protein at each meal, like the turkey patty, I found important to help me heal.
Now, the 3 cups of oatmeal and the 3 colace split up WEREN'T ENOUGH. You have to realize this, Suzy, that if you are like me, you have to do all of these things or you will pay the price in pain or injury or both.
Now I found that I had to ALSO have bran with my lunch, because my problem was that the first half of my stool would be too hard that it would hurt me, plus I still had to push some, a big no-no. So I read that insoluble fiber like bran adds weight to the stool and helps it to move along quickly out.
I also learned that if I ate any refined carbohydrates like white bread, my stools would get more solid and possibly hurt me; I still liked to eat white bread or else my stomach got too irritated with all of the fiber, fiber, fiber and softeners!
So at lunch I had and now add at the end of my regular lunch meal, a 1/2 cup to 1 cup of raisin bran, with rice milk as I'm lactose intolerant,and regular milk would give me deadly gas and diarrhea.
STILL THAT WASN'T ENOUGH. I found that I also had to add about 1-2 tablespoons of raisin bran flakes to my supper, I mean put it on top of the rice or anything on my supper plate, not directly eat the flakes. STILL THAT WASN'T ENOUGH. I had to add around 3 slices of apple including the skin, and a nectarine with the skin, as those skins added important insoluble fiber, and, AND, I had to also have with my supper around a 1/4 cup of some kind of lettuce, romaine, etcetera.
If I cut out any of those, I found I paid the price with my stools not being soft enough! Yes, the stool softeners alone didn't cut it; but if I tried to cut back on any stool softeners, I would get harder stools. And if I took all of the softeners, but cut out the salad, or the fruits, or the brans, I paid the price. I found I had to do all of these things together to give myself stools soft enough, and drink 15-20 cups of water!
From what you are saying, Suzy, the stool softeners alone aren't enough for you. What are you waiting for? To get injured to take more measures to soften your stool and get them to easily come out without pushing? Let me tell you, I waited, and I bled and rebled for 3 weeks. I think that is how I injured my sphincter, that one of the hard stools tore it some. If anything, I hope that by sharing with you my downfalls, you can avoid them while it is still okay.
Now, as far as your bleeding---this was my biggest fear, as the first surgery I had,the bleeding turned out not to be normal and I had to have an emergency surgery a week later, as the only stitch in my artery had broken.
After the second repair surger, I did bleed but not the amount I was the first. Still this freaked me out. My nurse told me that it can be normal to bleed for the first 6 weeks with each bowel movement, gas, etcetera.
The point is to call your surgeon up and ask him if it is normal for you, and to not under any circumstance strain or push---even gas out. You can accomplish that by eating the right combination of fibers, at the right times of the day, with each meal, and taking the stool softeners at the right meals in the right amount. I tried the smaller 50 mg colace, and they didn't work at all, even when I doubled them up to make 100 mg. Only the actually 100mg capsules work for me.
It is now 8 weeks for me and I still have to do all of those things. It's no fun, but it is less fun to bleed and hurt.
You know I have AOL internet service, and I find that I can't find MY postings in this topic for hours afterwards, but if I go to Internet Explorer, I can find my post right away. Don't ask me why---could have something to do with the way AOL stores webpages and shows the old one. Sometimes I can't even post from my AOL, and get a message that my number is banned, and I have to go through Internet Explorer to do it. So I now check through IE.
To tell you the truth, I am mortified about the thought that my sphincter might not heal; I worry about it being like one of those fissure horror stories I have read where the fissure never heals. At this point, unless my surgeon is lying, he seems positive I will heal in some months. However, it isn't easy when I have to struggle with keeping my stools soft. I haven't gone more than 2 days in a row where I get the 'perfect' soft stool that doesn't hurt me, or if I don't get enough sleep that can make me bleed when I go from the strain on my tired body.
I am going to try a herb called gotu kola that I read last night online some man used to heal his fissure with. I'll keep you posted if this works---gotu kola is reputed to help heal wounds. You're supposed to apply it topically, but this guy took a couple of pills a day. Normally I don't want to take any herbs, as they can cause side effects and/or interfere with my thryroid medicine, but when you lose all hope of normal healing, you find yourself desperate and will try anything promising at least once.
Runninggal, thanks for the words from your surgeon, that you could have setbacks for up to a year, as this is very helpful to know, and now makes me have a relaxed state of mind. If we all pool together our information and experiences, it will make the experience mentally just that much easier for the next person.
Suzy, I want you to know that I had that funny smell too, and it is normal and associated with the drainage that is also a normal part of healing. Welcome to the Muskrat Anal Gland Club! It will eventually go away when the wounds inside you heal. The drainage is a good sign, a sort of yellowy pale liquid stuff that means your body is healing the surgical site, sometimes mine was tainted with red from the blood. I read a couple of months ago what actually happens to make that discharge from the wounds, but can't recall the details. A photographic memory is not one of my talents.
Suzy, I'm going to employ some remote mind control on you now:
@@@@@@@soften your stools@@@@@@@suzy, split up your colace dose@@@@@@at breakfast eat 3 packs of quaker oatmeal@@@@@drink 2 cups of hot water@@@@@add bran to your lunch@@@@@and your supper@@@@@@@suzy, also add fruits with skin@@@@@and salad@@@@plus drink@@@@@drink@@@@@drink@@@@you only exist now to make soft stools@@@@@@@soft, self-moving stools is your mantra@@@@@@@@
Okay, end of mind control.
Sherry, yes, I had the hemorrhoidectomy done in my doctor's office. He shouldn't have, and things went wrong. I had gone in there just to have a hemorrhoid banded, and he lied to me and told me it would be less painful to have a hemorrhoidectomy instead, probably because he got $200 more cahs from me upfront for this procedure than the banding.
The emergency repair I had in a hospital, which I stayed overnight one day.
MRSE, the emergency room doctor told me that they used to tell patients to use the triple antibiotic ointment, but then they learned that is made wound healing much slower. If you read the fine print you will see it is not to be used over wounds. I, too, wanted to use it, but my doctor instead told me to use this non-prescription painkilling creme just for the butt, called . The first surgeon had given me a prescription of cream called analpram that was just for the pain and itching after a bowel movement.
Also, I religiously wore a pad the first week of my surgery, and for me it rubbed and irritated my surgery site at my ********, and caused me problems. However, your ******** might not have stitches, but because of this I didn't use pads after the second surgery. Instead I would use a single soft tissue that I would just gently place in my butt crack when I got out of the tub and the tissue would absorb the moisture as I toweled off and dressed. If the tissue fell out, I would just replace it with another one, until I felt dried out.
Now to walk I had to use a pad for support, but I put this OUTSIDE of my underwear, without sticking it to my underwear, and waddled with it to my recliner or bed.
I used large size 100% cotton balls to gently pat myself clean, but not dry. I took around 5 cotton balls. I wet them with tap water. The first one I just gently patted my butt hole. Then next wet one I dabbed on some betadine and gently patted the butt hold and stitch area to clean. That area was so tender that I could only do very light patting and not efficient cleaning. The other wet balls I used to pat off the betadine, the closest I could get to rinsing. Wiping is a no-no.
I, too, didn't have the odor for the first week that I spent hours in the tub, but then I learned that keeping the surgery site in water so long also could delay healing and cause infection, so once I started limiting my tub time, the smell came.
Suzy & MRSE, one last thing before I end my mini novel here, the surgery inside in the first 4 weeks caused an awful confusing feeling of a combination of pressure and sensation like I had to have a bm, when I didn't after I would have a bowel movement. It was important I figured out which was which, as it was important I didn't try to have a bm when there was nothing there and increase the pressure to the wound site and break a stitch. I learned that after I had a bowel movement, that if I sat or more like leaned back in my recliner or on the bed for 1-5 hours after, the creepy feeling would pass. It's like the surgery site got irritated; but also, my surgeon told me it was normal to have a feeling of pressure inside like that. This sort of reaction after stools kept up for the first 5 weeks. I don't get it now anymore. Now let me go back to watching the Simpsons on TV.
Suzy, one other thing: let me tell you why you HAVE TO EAT. It is critical that you pass normal sized or bulky bowel movements now, so your butt hole can shrink too small as it heals, which is called anal stricture.
Painpills will give you marble sized hard pellets. That is the terrible drawback. I paid the price on that. I ditched the pain pills and used tylenol instead for the pain. However, if you haven't passed your stools by tomorrow, (and DON'T strain, it's okay if they sit in there a day), take milk of magnesia also per instructions on the bottle.
However, have your caretaker go right now to the store and get you bran, oatmeal, apples, prepackaged salad. And start to eat normally, at regular times, breakfast, lunch, dinner, as this also helps regularity.
It is hell, yes; bowel movements suck. But you are damned if you do them now, and damned if you don't.
I can't tell you how many times in the first 2 weeks, I had to rip off my clothes and get into the tub, in anticipation of a bowel movement, and then NOTHING!! I would then have to climb out, dry off---moments later another urge---strip off clothes, then no go. This was not onlyl exhausting but a terrible mental strain.
I would then walk around the house naked, to get myself to go, pace in the bathroom. But, I found if I stood too much, that would strain the surgical site and increase bleeding. I found that eating food was important to going. The first 2-1/2 weeks was a lose-lose situation. It was all about ENDURING, plain and ugly. Each day was like time in hell, one day marked off at a time. The time DID pass.
I finally figured the right diet for me that worked, as I detailed above. I wish I had known that diet in the beginning, as I would have had a lot easier time; still each bowel movement was an ordeal to pass, that is why my little TV in the bathroom helped me a lot to focus on a slice of something normal.
Suzy, one other thing: don't do anything to get that marble feeling stool out. I had this happen to me often---a stool would be stuck inside. Pushing is a no-no. Sitting on the toilet to make yourself go is a no-no. You don't want any reason to put your butt hole under pressure or pushing. I can tell you that the pain gets worse the second time around, if you are forced to have an emergency repair.
So what are you supposed to do? You will spend an uncomfortable day with this piece of stool stuck there---I would cry on those days, sob, because it was so horrible to put up with that; it was like this hard stone in my butt, grating against my wounds. For that day, though, I ate my meals. I simply had to wait for the next day, for the next morning's normal urge.
If the urge doesn't come for you tomorrow, then it is time to take a laxative. The point is, don't push or sit to try to go. You know to go when it is coming out on its own. If you are constipated now, you will have to take some form of laxative, like milk of magnesium.
During your whole recovery never push; some days you will not void completely and you will be miserable with this piece stuck in your rectum. No matter what you can't push it out; it will stay stuck until your next natural movement the next day, which is far better than breaking your stitches with strain.
This was hell for me, but I learned that each day my body did have the urge to go, and the previous day's stuck stool WOULD come out then. I got over this 'stuck stool' problem when I quit the contipating pain pills and religiously followed the diet I detailed above.
It seems unthinkable to spend a day with a hard stool stuck in your *** that is also raw and sore; in your old healthy days, why you would push such a stool out. However, you are not in your old days; instead you have inside you a fragile surgical area that you have to tolerate the pain and soreness and protect from any strain.
This means enduring some days with a stuck stool inside; no preparation H, no inserting anything into the rectum; maybe your doctor can prescribe you analpram, but I have to tell you that your surgical site inside will make you feel you have hemorrhoids. I thought so too, but it is the raw area inside. Those feelings will go away in 5-6 weeks.
Inform yourself, by reading these posts, so you don't make a critical mistake thinking you have hemorrhoids, or thinking it is more important to get rid of a stuck stool at all cost. This is the hell of this surgery, that you have to endure these feelings without any relief until you have healed enough and are past this horrible part.
oh gosh....i'm mortified, but at the same time, I'm so grateful that you shared everything down to the very last detail. You have no idea how much this has helped me. I will be sending my daughter out right now, as I type this, to get the things you recommended. I have the oatmeal...maybe I will start with some of that tonite, before bed.
I have been crying all night. I don't mean to sound like a big baby here, but the thought of this big stuck piece of poop coming out just scares the hell out of me, not to mention the pain that one peice of crap is causing. I'm wondering if I'm developing some sort of phobia that won't allow me to have a BM now. Your right though...I need to eat. Thats something I haven't done at all today. I'm so afraid. The pain is so intense, as you all on this forum already know. And I've sat and sat on that damn toilet, all for nothing...nothing coming out, and only pain to follow with more blood. The blood isn't severe...but enough there to let me know that it's not going away. OMG...I can't believe I'm admitting this, but I did stick my finger up there today to try to dislodge that large marble. I had some relief for a short period of time, as it came out, only to be back where I started an hour later with another one. I'm just so sore. I wasn't this sore on day three, and now I am worse off than before....dayum this is really not going well at all. So no straining at all? But what if when you sit on the toilet it's the only thing you feel, that urge to push it out? I wish I would have never had this surgery. Things were NEVER this bad before...sure a hemorrhoid now and then, sure sometimes unbearable, but not like this!!! This sucks, and sucks is putting it MILDLY!
All I can say tammy is thank you so much for your words of instruction and help. You've given me more time than the damn nurse did today when I called TWICE for help. They said 'take two stool softeners'. HA! I took 5 TODAY and still no relief!! (my doctor was off today, so I had to rely on the backup)
Ok, so I'm sending my daughter off for apples, raisin bran, and MOM. I'll let you know how things go tomorrow. Say a prayer for me.....I really need it!
Suzy, all of us gals here who have gone through what you are now going through, are your best friends. We're here for you unlike the nurses, and doctors who have never been touched by this unbelievably terrible recovery.
Okay, now as your best friend, I am going to order you OFF of the toilet. Only sit there when the crap is on the way out, no stopping it. This will happen when the food and stool softeners kick in. If you read on the package on stool softeners, it can take a day to three days for the stool softeners to have full effect on you.
Also, the stool softeners won't do you a hill of beans if you don't drink a full glass of water, around 2 cups each time you take each stool softener dose. If you take a stool softener and only swallow 2 tablespoons of water, or the smallest water you can, you are defeating the purpose.
You don't want to sit on a doughnut, or anything that suspends yuor butt hole, like a toilet, because this puts a lot of gravity, pressure on your ********, and pressure increases in your surgical area, which means more blood goes there, and more blood pooling there means you can bleed. Sitting on the toilet for a prolonged period causes hemorrhoid due to the increase pressure; it pools blood there almost like blood would pool to your head if you hung upside down.
Yes, it is hell to have a piece of crap in your butt. Do you know you could have broken a stitch sticking your finger in your butt? Do you want to feel even more pain with a repeat surgery? Nothing, NOTHING, should be put into your ******** for at least the first 10 weeks. Not even a soft suppository; this is a big postop no-no.
You need to get your priorities in order: healing, healing, protecting your rectal insides and outside, yes, even if it means enduring the pain of a stuck stool. Nothing goes inside your butt hole.
The way you get it out, if it is stuck, and doesn't come out tomorrow, is with a laxative ADDED to your stool softeners. Laxatives have a stimulating action on your intestines that will force out the stool, but absolutely NO enemas, nothing that goes into your butt hole. I seriously hope you haven't already injured yourself. It makes me angry that surgeons provide inadequate post-operative instructions that don't inform the patient what to do and what not to do.
Don't panic; cry, it's okay, sob, yes, you have every reason to. Don't over do the laxatives in your panic, you could force yourself to have too many cramps and stools and break a stitch. You have to be patient, be smart, and use your intellect to understand that you can't speed up the process of softening your stools, you can't force the stool out of your rectum digitally, you have to take the proper oral pills and foods that will do it for you.
Use the laxative only to get rid of your constipation now, not on a daily basis. Take also your normal stool softener but spaced out as I said, and all of that food. You may have the 5 colace backfire on you, and the laxative, by making you go too much tomorrow, or the next day, but do not make the new mistake to cut back on your maintenance stool softeners and all of that food.
Suzy, you are stuck in this recovery now; there are ways to get through it. I'm only sorry, that like me, no one told you how serious the consequences could be so you could make an informed decision whether or not you wanted to endure this. Hang in there and keep your eyes on the future, because your better days are there.
Suzy & mrse, I just one to add another thing tonight---I know I'm long-winded today, but this is the time you guys need all of the coping tricks to get through the hardest part.
First I could go only in the tub, and after each stool I was paralyzed with pain. I got to the point where I would shove a small towel in my mouth and bite down, and remained paralyzed for several minutes, unable to move. If you've never been paralyzed with pain, you don't know what's it's like, but pain can be so bad that you actually can't move at all, and that's what I experienced (my husband couldn't understand that a bowel movement could cause paralyzing pain, but it didn't change the fact that the pain paralyzed me).
Then, I remembered when I had my bandings how smearing a glob of vaseline on my butt hole just before going helped tremendously to protect my sore hole and ease things out.
There are 2 bathrooms in my house, so I put a jar of vaseline in each. My husband would take the lids off for me in the morning, because sometimes I wouldn't have enough time to do that in time to grease my butt hole before the stool came out.
So when my stool was inevitable, I would stick a finger in the vaseline and dab this big glob against my butt hole without actually touching it. Boy, this made a tremendous difference. I did this even if I climbed into the tub of water to go; the vaseline protected my rectum. I had to use a tissue to wipe my finger, as that stuff stays on.
After I went, I then made sure to use the wet cotton balls to not only clean myself, but remove the remaining vaseline, because you shouldn't keep vaseline on wounds---the label even says so. Temporarily to pass stools is okay.
I still use vaseline everytime I go, and judging by Runninggal's report from her doc to expect 1 year of setbacks, I will be using it for another year to come.
When I had my first hemorrhoidectomy, I didn't know how to cope, and I followed some advice of the surgeon's postop paper that ended up causing me harm, like taking 2 ducolax daily, which made me go violently 12-20 times each day. You can believe after the second surgery that I then found ways to prevent any new injuries and to cope with the terrible healing process. I found some of the ways by making painful mistakes; don't blame yourselves for any setback any of your mistakes may have caused---you can't know to avoid something or do it, if no one tells you.
Also, I found that getting a full night's sleep was as important as keeping my stools soft. My body got a chance to work on some serious healing during sleep. You two need to get your full sleep also. Since mrse has figured out for herself a combination of foods and softeners that lets her take the pain pills without problems, she can get her sleep. But you, Suzy, have to stay away from the prescription pain pills due to your constipation; but, again, tylenol is something you can take at night to sleep. You won't need to counter the pain at night for long, but do make getting a full night sleep a priority. Sometimes I would take 12 hours just to get all of my sleep, as sometimes I was restless or getting up.
I used to be a stomach sleeper before this surgery, but now I can only sleep on my back because my butt hole isn't totally healed, and needs the support of the bed. I will know I am totally healed the day I can sleep on my stomach again.
You aren't alone, Suzy; others, just like you, have gone through exactly what you are going through now, and survived. I now have lots of times when my butt feels totally normal; but I don't yet have my normal butt back...I think that will take months. The worst was the first 3 weeks; the second worst was the next 3 weeks, but those 4th through 6th weeks were now in the livable stage as I had my stools under control sort of. I still can't control my stool quality everyday, but things are much better for me now.
When I was still in the excruciating stage, having to do Lamaze breathing to get through the passing of a bm, I found that putting one foot, or both feet up on a step stool, while sitting on the toilet, helped tremendously with evacuation. I had read about this method on an Anal Fissure help site. Pain is an incredible motivator and when I was really in midst of Rectal Hell, I was willing to try anything. I grabbed my children's Play Skool step stool that they use to reach the sink, put my feet up on it and was amazed at the result. The change of position took the pressure off my rectum and allowed the bm to come out much more easily, while of course, still doing my Lamaze breathing.
I have retired the step stool now, but it was my friend for 3 months.