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Old 07-14-2007, 11:46 PM   #1
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What could it be? :-(

Symptoms

Aged 33
History of bowel problems ranging from wanting to go soon after eating and diarrhoea.
2 weeks of constant Diarrhoea after taking Amoxicillin
Needing to go to the toilet up to 7 times a day
Stools range from soft to medium but not always watery
No pain on going to toilet
No pain in abdomen
Severe anxiety often causing bowel movements (IBS?)
Bowel movements causing a “need o go quickly” (IBS?)
Bloody stool is usually the last little stool come out, not a huge amount of blood but visible on close inspection and a small blob of maroon blood on tissue.
Bloody stool doesn’t happen a lot but seems to come at the back end of any toilet session – usually when I strain (gently) to get the last bits out.

12th July Thurs

Bright Blood on tissue in morning, blood on last stool.
Visited doctor who prescribed Metronidazole to control the bad bacteria after antibiotics, also advised to take live yogurt and that “I didn’t have cancer”. Sent away stool for stool culture test.
After taking tablets, diarrhoea slowed down a little

13th July Friday

Maroon Blood on tissue in morning, blood on last stool.
Went to toilet 4 times (ie after each meal)
Anxiety set in causing irritable bowels

14th July Saturday

Normal stools, no blood
Went to toilet 7 times (ie after each food intake)
Late night toilet was watery diarrhoea after eating rice pudding
Anxiety set in causing irritable bowels

15th July Sunday

Slightly bloody tissue and smlight blood last stool at 3am, but only after straining and not much came out
Went to toilet at 7.00am, normal slightly soft stools and no blood.
Went to toilet again at 7.05am (as there was some left and I hadn’t pushed) and soft round diarrhoea came out with the last of it showing a small sprinkle of maroon blood on the stool and tissue.
Severe anxiety set in causing irritable bowels and depression



Please can anyone help? My anxiety is killing me as much as any desease, I can't even look at my son as I fear I won't be with him much longer. I am being a drama queen?

 
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Re: What could it be? :-(

Hi...have you had a colonoscopy done yet? I would suggest it if you haven't.

It sounds as though you may have ulcerative colitis or Crohn's or even microscopic colitis possibly. But....you won't know until the doctor looks in there.

Are you seeing a gastroenteroligist or a GP?

I can truly relate to your anxiety. I've been diagnosed with UC and that was a relief....but the years before I was referred to a GI were extremely anxiety provoking.

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Old 07-15-2007, 12:18 AM   #3
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Re: What could it be? :-(

The only thing I have had is a stool lab test for which I am awaiting results. Because this happened after anti-biotic treatment the doctor is concentrating on finding the bacteria that is affecting me. I don't have that much blood (thank God) and it usually comes when I am straining or at the end of a poo and slightly on the tissue but what's really bothering me is the IBS type going to the toilet up to 7 times a day!

 
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Re: What could it be? :-(

You could have a fissure...have you taken a look-see by squatting over a mirror. If you see a little cut around the anus, it's a fissure.

I think rather than the yogurt, purchase good probiotics.

IBS will exacerbate your symptoms, that's true, but it seems by way of the fact that simple eating will trigger fast spasming to eliminate your bowel means it's very touchy and inflamed.

Have you changed your diet a lot? Are you able to eat?

Have you considered to add a fibre supplement to at least help a bit with the diarrhea..such as metamucil?

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Old 07-15-2007, 02:34 AM   #5
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Re: What could it be? :-(

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You could have a fissure...have you taken a look-see by squatting over a mirror. If you see a little cut around the anus, it's a fissure.

I think rather than the yogurt, purchase good probiotics.

IBS will exacerbate your symptoms, that's true, but it seems by way of the fact that simple eating will trigger fast spasming to eliminate your bowel means it's very touchy and inflamed.

Have you changed your diet a lot? Are you able to eat?

Have you considered to add a fibre supplement to at least help a bit with the diarrhea..such as metamucil?

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I haven't squatted yet but wouldn't the blood on all the stools rather than just the last one or on the tissue if it was a cut? What's worrying about it being on the last stool as I push is that it may coming from somewhere higher up. My blood is maroon and also appears near enough fresh on the tissue. With me having Diarrahoea I guess the blood wherever it is coming from will look a little fresh as it comes out so soon.

The Probitoics I have is Danone Activia - is that any good?

I have to call the doctor again on Tuesday to find out the test results of the stool and maybe then I will ask about what it could be and whether I may have IBS etc.

At the moment I am petrified about Cancer.

 
Old 07-15-2007, 02:51 AM   #6
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Re: What could it be? :-(

I just squatted over and took a look and there was no cut on the outside of my anus, to investigate I "pushed out" a little and I could see little specs of red blood inside my anus as if the cut and bleeding was just inside my anal canal. Does this mean anything?

 
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Re: What could it be? :-(

I could also see two little spots of flesh that were bloody.

 
Old 07-15-2007, 04:20 AM   #8
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Re: What could it be? :-(

iv got the same thing u need to go to your gp asap and he will send u to see a specialist at hospital.maybe u need a sigmoidscopy,thats what i am having done

 
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iv got the same thing u need to go to your gp asap and he will send u to see a specialist at hospital.maybe u need a sigmoidscopy,thats what i am having done
Is it important to note that I got Diarrhoea from taking anti-biotics and this all came about from that? It wasn't just sudden. I also suffer from IBS and severe anxiety.

You have frightened me as it sounds like what you are saying that I need to get checked for Cancer.

I have already seen a GP and he just sent my stools away for testing and doesn't think it is too serious but I am having tests. You can never be certain.

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Old 07-15-2007, 09:58 AM   #10
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Re: What could it be? :-(

I have spoken to the local emergency doctors over the phone and told them all my symptoms. The IBS os cuasing diarrhoea as is the after effects of the antibitoics. The bleeding is probably being caused by "going too much". They say I don't show "too many bad symptoms" except for the dark blood which they have started to look at my stool in the lab for. I guess it is a matter of wait and see.

Because there is something that actually caused it e.g. "antibiotics" I guess they are looking at bacteria and the digestive tract first to test for damage and not the "sudden" in incidences that may cause cancer.

It is so worrying all the same, anyone else help?

 
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Re: What could it be? :-(

Visited toilet again, had medium stools not watery ones. Couldn’t check for blood as stools were covered in yellowy white Anusol that I am using. No blood can be seen on stools or tissue and none is discolouring the Anusol which is surrounding the stools. This suggests that the blood may be inside the stool which is worrying. If the blood was fresh wouldn’t it be covering the Anusol cream on the stool?

 
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Re: What could it be? :-(

hi...Cancer is the biggest fear, and I went through the same thing. But, remember that your diarrhea started after the antibiotic and they are checking the stool samples for the culprit..so, that's being looked after. Patience is the hardest thing, and the urgency to know will definitely create more anxiety.

The bleeding isn't caused by IBS. You may have it, but it doesn't cause bleeding.

If you saw something right at the anus, it could be hemorrhaged hemorrhoids, raw anal tissue from going so often, crohn's disease or left over blood from your last bm.

Again, cancer is always a possiblity but not a probability considering your situation. Unless, you have polyps in the colon/rectum/anus...could have exacerbated bleeding because of the diarrhea.

I don't know if diverticulitis causes bleeding or diarrhea..but that too can be a possibility....but you're not having discomfort..so that's probably not it at all.

The fact that you're producing a more formed stool is good....Yes, if the blood were lower and fresh, it would be probably mixed in with the anusol creating a kind of pinkish colour.

So, you don't have a choice at the moment but to wait at least until Tuesday.

Probiotics from yogurt (because it's a milk product), might give you discomfort...but if it doesn't then you should add it. If you can get a hold of one called Primadophilus Reuteri..that would be your first best bet. It has Rhamnosus and acidophilus. I use Protec from Natural Factors, and have recently added the Primadophilus Reuteri.
Yogurt gives me too much discomfort in the gut, but I know a lot of people who have no problem with milk products.

I would also suggest you add Metamucil..not the one with aspartame to help slow and absorb "stuff" in the gut. It too helps clear out and keep the balance in the digestive tract.

Regardless of what your results of the stool samples...you should make an appointment for a colonoscopy. Not a sigmoidoscopy or a barium enema x-ray to determine diagnosis before the c-scope. The doc will have a thorough look-see and take biopsies, check for precancer, cancer..etc.

Hang tough...keep us posted as to what's going on.

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Old 07-15-2007, 01:10 PM   #13
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Re: What could it be? :-(

Thanks so much for even bothereing to write Quincy, you have been a massive help. I am in the UK where the health service is free, I also have private medical cover. The doctor is taking one step at a time.

This is what the Cancer UK site says.

(Colorectal cancer) : About bowel cancer

Sould I see a bowel cancer specialist?

Who should see a specialist: T he NICE guidelines
Who needs to see a specialist urgently
Who should see a specialist

It can be very difficult for GPs to decide who may have a suspected cancer and who may have something much more minor that will go away on its own. With many symptoms, it is perfectly right that your GP should ask you to wait to see if they get better or respond to treatment such as antibiotics. If GPs referred everyone who came to see them to a specialist immediately, the system would get jammed and those needing urgent appointments wouldn't be able to get them.

Bowel symptoms are very common. Usually, they are related to a something less serious than cancer. But there are particular combinations of symptoms that mean your GP should refer you to a specialist straight away.

The NICE guidelines

NICE (the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence) have produced guidelines for GPs to help them decide which patients need to be seen urgently by a specialist. These Government guidelines on referrals for bowel cancer were updated in June 2005. They say that a specialist should ideally see you within 2 weeks of going to the GP, if you are having these symptoms for the first time. NICE have included the phrase 'for the first time' because non cancerous bowel problems are often chronic conditions. They are telling the GP to use his judgement. If you have been having the same symptoms on and off for years, have been investigated and found not to have cancer, your GP should not be expected to refer you as an urgent case each time the same symptoms come back.

The guidelines are also divided by age. Bleeding from the back passage is very common in people in their 30's and is nearly always caused by piles. In fact, it is so common that if you have bleeding from the back passage, you are less likely to have cancer than someone in their 60's with no symptoms at all. This is because bowel cancer is very rare under 40 and much more common in people over 60. Again, it really isn't right for doctors to refer everyone with piles urgently to a specialist and the system would not be able to cope. Piles are nearly always accompanied by itching and soreness. So if you are young and have these symptoms, you are much more likely to have piles than bowel cancer.

The guidelines point out that people who have the following symptoms, but do not have any lump in the abdomen, are very unlikely to have cancer

Bleeding from the back passage, with soreness, itching and pain
A change in normal bowel habits to harder less frequent stools
Pain in the abdomen without any evidence that there is a blockage

Urgent referral at any age

According to Department of Health guidelines, you should ideally get an appointment within 2 weeks for an urgent referral. The symptoms that may need urgent referral for possible cancer of the bowel or back passage (rectum) at any age are

A lump that the GP can feel in the right side of your abdomen
A lump that the GP can feel in your rectum (not your pelvis)
A type of anaemia (low red blood cells) called iron deficient anaemia without a known cause

Urgent referral over 40
If you are over 40 and have all these symptoms, your GP should consider referral to a specialist within 2 weeks

Change in normal bowel habits towards looser or more frequent stools, or both, that has lasted for 6 weeks or more

Bleeding from the back passage (rectum)

Urgent referral over 60

If you are over 60 and have these symptoms, your GP should consider referral to a specialist within 2 weeks

A change in normal bowel habits towards looser or more frequent stools, or both, that has lasted for 6 weeks or more without bleeding from the back passage (rectum)

Persistent bleeding from the back passage without any signs of piles (haemorrhoids), such as itching, pain or discomfort in the back passage
If you do have symptoms and are concerned that your GP is not taking them as seriously as you think he or she should, you could print this page and take it along to an appointment. Ask your GP to talk it through with you and then you may be able to decide together whether you need to see a specialist and if so, how soon.

Cancer Research UK
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Last updated 09 February 2007

CancerHelp UK is not designed to provide medical advice or professional services and is intended to be for educational use only. The information provided through CancerHelp UK is not a substitute for professional care and should not be used for diagnosing or treating a health problem or a disease. If you have, or suspect you may have, a health problem you should consult your doctor.

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Re: What could it be? :-(

And that info is why many of us get overly concerned it "could" be cancer...because there's no guarantee.

I agree that you should be checked out if it's suspected.

Regardless of the stool samples, be they positive or negative for any bugaboos, you should be sent to a GI for a look-see

My take on it...and any of us can make any symptoms fit of what we're most afraid.

Only 2 more days to go.

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I'm suprised no one has mentioned this on here yet, but I'm thinking it could be C.difficile (antibiotic-associated diarrhea or colitis). I got it after taking Augmentin back in march. Many of your symptoms match up to it, especially the diarrhea after taking antibiotics, many BMs per day, and the sudden urge to need to go. That would likely be the bacteria they are testing for. Try doing a web search on C-diff or Clostridium Difficile and see what you come up with. Hope this helps!
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