Hey just wondering how everyone is doing. I hope you are doing better gaudet2. You guys are in my prayers for a speedy, uncomplicated recovery.
Hope everyone has a good weekend. In the mean time I am off to soak my behind.
hello to all fello sufferers I am new to posting here. Was hoping to get some help from those who have had more time to heal and help those that are in the process. I had a 2 large external hemorrhoids removed, as well as a fissure repair and sphincterotomy done Jan 24th 2008. I am 4 weeks out and having some increased tightness/pain with BM. Some blood w/ each BM. Could this just be lack of fiber or would you call your doc?
For those recovering. I will say that the bath was much better than a sitz tub. I went back to work two part time days at 14/15 days and then worked full time starting day 18 on. I also have a desk job- and at that point was able to sit straight down again I am still using lidocaine ointment whenever I am home after BM. I think i will take some to work as well. I am only using tylenol as needed. Although the BM is still pretty painful, the pain is lasting only 30-60min after each time. I am using baby wipes at home, wet tp at work if needed. I still take 270mg docusate before bed each night. Slight leackage still with light pad used- nothing bothersome- have used A & D cream for the skin irritation.
Hope this helps
At 15 days with several internal and externals removed, I am slowly feeling better. Pain from BM's last maybe an hour or two, but much reduced pain than I had in the first 10 days, also still bleeding after BM's. I still am having drainage, too. Still taking Advil several times a day, but don't really need it until after a BM. Am using the wet wipes after BM's. The tub bath seems more helpful to me, things definitely still seem swollen. Haven't used the lidocaine for a few days now.
The BM's (also known as butt monsters) don't seem to move out like they should so I am taking Miralax every 1-2 days. I try to take several 100 mg stool softners daily and metamucil 2X a day. Also try to add benefiber into oatmeal, blueberries and flax in the morning. Maybe I need more water! I try to eat fruits and veggies throughout the day.
I tried All Bran crackers, garlic herb with 5 g fiber/serving, which I liked. Also got Fiber One caramel delight cereal with 9 grams of fiber/serving which was really yummy! How is everyone doing with fiber? It seems to give gas. Is it a good idea to keep track of fiber grams? Can you get too much?
Wondering if things will ever feel "normal" again, also have the tightness & pain with BM's.
Hope everyone is well and would like to hear how you all are doing.
Last edited by kcindarella; 02-25-2008 at 10:26 AM.
I have been doing quite well and am now at 10 days out. Still have bleeding and some pain with BM's but it has decreased with each one
I have been taking a minimum of 2 Citrucel tablets a day but I try to take 4 if possible. I have also been taking 2 stool softeners every night and I add a MOM tablet if I haven't gone in more than 24 hours. My doctor said that if laxatives work for you to not stop using them now as it can slow down your progress. He said it is safe to use them for up to a few months if needed.
I am now off all pain medication except for when I have a BM. Depending on the pain, I take 2-4 tylenol and that seems to take the edge off.
The true test will be this Friday when I return to my desk job and am required to sit from 6am to 3pm. I am praying the "butt monster" doesn't visit me at work!!
Hopefully everyone else is doing as well. Would love to hear how you are all doing!
Just wanted to say that I am doing pretty well I think. I have been able to cut back on my pain meds and doing ok. No problems with constipation as long as I keep my fiber and softners on track. I really am grateful for that.
I feel guilty to say it but I am bored out of my mind. I don't work outside my home, I retired early because of other health issues. Again I feel guilty when I think of so many who really suffer when they have to go back to jobs and endure terrible difficulties. But I am so tired of all this go to the potty and check out the outcome. Make sure the area is ok and take care of the hygiene stuff ect... I will be so happy when my life is outside my bedroom and bathroom. I know that I am fortunate in so many ways and I truly do not take that for granted but is anyone else have any trouble with depression?
I really have best wishes and support for everyone that is in this difficult and traumatic experience. But hang in there each day is a step twoard complete recovery.
Glad to hear you are doing pretty well, though sorry to hear about not mentally feeling well. I have struggled in the past with depression so I know it is not easy. My job is here in my home, so I can relate to not getting out. I usually enjoy being here but there are times it is nice to get out and see others. Supplements seem like they help after taking them awhile, I take a B vitamin and also fish oil several times a day. I have also taken Sam-e in the past though I'm not ready to take that, so I guess it is not too bothersome for me right now. It's hard when things aren't really normal, all the fiber stuff, cleaning, baths, pain, etc. I am very thankful that I don't have to return to a job out of the house right now because I don't think I would be ready for that.
I am experiencing quite a bit of pain with BM (aka: butt monsters!) for hours and it is becoming discouraging like something is wrong or out of the normal. I have started taking 1/2 darvocet again since taking several advils don't seem to help with the pain. How is your pain doing? I worry that after this many days (17 days), things should be less painful. The bleeding is also troublesome. Are others experiencing this or is it just me?
I am 5 weeks out tomorrow from 2 external hemorrhoidectomy and fissurectomy and a Lateral internal sphincterotomy. I I am still having pain with BM and blood in stool/paper. The pain only lasts 15-30min after each bm. Some soreness here and there but mostly BM related. Is anyone else deailing with this so late in the recovery process?
Also- This all came from delivery of my dtr in July. Is it pretty much guaranteed that this will happen with any future deliveries?
How much water is everyone drinking?
how much fiber is everyone SUPPLEMENTING (not in foods)?
If you are farther out- when did you feel "normal"
Things have not been going great the last 4 1/2 weeks, since the hemroid removal. I am now told I probably have a tear(fissure) that is causing the bleeding and pain. It is really discouraging since I do not want to endure any more surgeries near my bottom. Not sure when this happened since there was never a break from the pain and bleeding from the hemroid surgery. I have a new ointment to try, can't think of the name but I believe it is some kind of blood pressure med that should relieve some pressure down below and increase healing.
Sorry to hear you are still in so much pain. When I had my surgery on 2/15, I had the hemorrhoidectomy in addition to a fissure repair and a sphincterotomy. I can tell you that I was glad I had it all done at the same time and even though it was a painful recovery, I would do it again rather than deal with the pain I had been in for years.
Most likely the cause of your fissure is hard stool. You want to make sure that you are drinking enough fluids, eating enough fiber and even supplementing with colace or citrucel (or something of that nature). I also take two stool softeners every night as well.
I went for my post op appointment last week and was told that even though I still have some open wounds, that I am healing well. The only pain I have now is after a BM , but that pain is very manageable. You will continue to have bleeding with every BM regardless just because of the open wounds, I still do, and it is nothing to be worried about. I was told that unless it is more than the amount of stool, to not worry about it.
In my experience, the fissure was far more painful than the hemorrhoids ever were. I dealt with those for 9 years (I am only 28), but was only able to deal with the fissure for about a year before I had had enough. After the surgery, the fissure was completely healed within a couple of days, it was the actual hemorrhoidectomy that caused ALL my pain.
One thing that caught me on your post...you said you "probably" have a fissure. Did your doctor do an exam? The reason I ask is that my doctor was able to tell in a matter of seconds that I had a fissure, so I would assume they would have told you that you either do or don't have one.
I really appreciate your reply. I did not have an exam in person, just talked over the phone. The Dr. on call (my Dr. is out of town) felt that is "most likely" a fissure, a complication of the hemroid surgery. After researching fissures on the internet, it sounds like I have all the symptoms of a fissure. I am hoping it is healed before it becomes chronic. I did have one about 20 years ago, it healed on its own, but this seems more painful. I guess the memory of pain of the past may have dimmed over the years.
My pain and bleeding had been getting worse again, though it never has gone away, but the ointment seems to be helping after using it over the weekend. I think I have muscle spasms in the pelvis region after BM's I am to call the Dr's later this week and they will let me know what to do. (Be seen or keep using the annointment)
Did you have any treatments for your fissure before the surgery?
I really feel like I have been doing what was needed to be done, metamucil 2X per day, 2 stool softners/day, Miralax every day or two to keep things moving so I really have not been constipated. Oatmeal with flax daily, salads, fruits and veggies, & have tried to avoid spicy and beef items. I try to drink water frequently, maybe I am not getting enough. My stools have been fairly soft though.
I had virtually no pain before this surgery, only bleeding and mild discomfort, so it is easy to have regrets. Hopefully a few months down the road, I'll look back and be relieved it is over. I definitely want to prevent any future flare ups and keep up the fiber in my diet.
It was good to hear from you about the bleeding, I am definitely not bleeding more than the amount of the stool. That sounds like a lot!
I am happy to hear your fissure is completely healed. That is encouraging. Hoping for your continued healing. Thanks Gaudet2.
It sounds like you very well could have a fissure . Mine was caused by a severely spasmatic anal sphincter and that is why they did the sphincterotomy (made a small cut to relieve the tension). Once the sphincterotomy is done, it allows for the fissure to repair itself quite easily.
I had been in so much pain with the fissure and for so long (silently I may add), I did not do any ointment treatments or anything like that. Plus, since they were already going in to do the hemorrhoidectomy, I think it made sense to work on the fissure and do the sphincterotomy.
You mentioned that you have muscle spasms in the pelvic region. My fissure caused me so much pain and my sphincter was so tight that every time I had a BM , I would practically jump off the toilet it hurt so bad. I wonder if you have a tight sphincter too??
Honestly, as much as it hurts to go now, the pain is really no comparison to the horrid pain I had with my fissure before. The lingering pain after BM's is the only difference as before it was only painful during BM's .
You may want to discuss your spasms with your doc too. If your fissure is caused by a tight sphincter, you would be smart to have it fixed. I am glad I did . As much as another surgery sounds horrible now, I think in the long run you would be glad you had it done.
I know this can put you down in the dumps , I have a long history of depression, but keep telling yourself that you really did make the right decision and in time, you will be glad you did it.
Sorry to hear about your pain and complication. I had some realy troublesome fissure problems and it can be difficult to deal with. I was given dilitiazem ointment before my surgery that really helped with the fissure healing. It really helped. Hang in there. Try to drink as much water as possible. I drink about 5 to 6 bottles every day at least. I am used to it because I have a bladder disease and havent haven't drank anything else except water for the past 12 years. Ack!! Sounds Impossible but you get used to it.
I just got a new gel rx that is really great from my Dr. It helps with the pain if you have any open wound areas as well as being a antibiotic. I have read about it helping the healing process time. It is metronidazole topical gel. It is really good stuff. Keep it in mind.
Sorry I have been out of touch. After having my 3 wk check up with my Dr. I had to go directly go to the ICU to help my mother with my father who is not doing very well. I spent the following week trying to do the necessary things to try and get through what she had to deal with. However having spent so much more time on my feet and being much more active than I was really prepared for. I really had alot more pain bleeding and tummy problems than I had been, it really makes a difference. For me anyway. Of course my regular little schedule got interupted as well, hospital chairs, food ect. aren't that great. I imagine stress makes a difference for all of us as well.
Hang in there the diltiazem ointment really helped me with the fissure issues in the past, and now the metroniadzole gel is really helping me with the open wound areas pain and healing.
I am on a low dose xanax as well as neurontin resulting from my bladder disease for nerve pain and I really think that they help with the spasm pain. I have heard valium recomended. It might be worth asking about a low dose xanax or valium to relax regarding the spasms. Depends on your Drs. views of course. We are all different. Mine is not the average situation to begin with due to the bladder disease. I also try to use a heating pad for the back pain. Soak in the tub as much as I can. And last but not least the ever faithful old warm/hot water sitz bath to do the butt monster business in.
I sure hope things get better for you girl.
Stay in touch. May all your chairs be soft and your healing increase to move forward quickly.
Thanks for the advice and encouragement. I definitely think I have had spasms since the beginning of my recovery. I keep hoping for them to go away, but they really haven't, mostly for hours after the BM's ...grrr..
The ointment seems to be helping, I guess it is supposed to work like a chemical sphincterotomy. Hoping that will work and let me heal.
I know what you mean about jumping off of the toilet from pain, it has been quite painful, but has calmed down in the past several days.
It is very discouraging, after talking with the Dr's office last weekend, I just wanted to cry. It's been helpful talking to someone who has experienced these problems and is getting through it. Thanks!
Nice to hear from you. So sorry to hear about your Dad, I know it is so stressful when a loved one is sick. Definitely not easy when you are not feeling well yourself. My Dad died last March, so I know how difficult it can be, it was a long illness. Hope you are feeling better now and having time to rest and find better chairs and food!
Today I will be drinking lots of water, I usually don't drink much else, but will definitely try for more.
Did the dilitiazem ointment heal your fissure? or did they still do surgery on it. It's probably in some of your older posts, sorry. So far, I think it is helping, although, it certainly is not healed yet. ...maybe with time. I will keep in mind the other ointment also.
Do you still have discharge? I am so tired of wearing panty liners all of the time. I also ended up with a yeast infection last week, tried to treat it over the counter but didn't work long. It was a rough week.
I sometimes wonder if it could be the Dr's fault or is it just the way my body handled the hemroid removal. I don't feel like I did enough research before the surgery. They were basically doing a colonoscopy and if they needed to remove any internal hemroids they would do so at the same time. I did not realize how painful it would be or what the complications could be. Guess I feel kind of uninformed and its my fault. I'm still not sure if the hemroids were to the point that I really needed them removed.
I was prescribed xanax when I was dealing with stress last summer but I was always scared to take it, not sure why. Guess I should give it a try next time I feel those muscle spasms coming. I do take flexeril (a muscle relaxant) for neck pain (muscle spasms), not sure if that seemed to help the pelvic region spasms though. The baths help ..... until I get out.
Hoping that all is getting back to normal for you. Take care.
Last edited by kcindarella; 03-11-2008 at 11:56 AM.