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Old 02-21-2009, 03:18 AM   #1
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Soft stools a must

Hello,

my specialist has told me that i must have soft stools as i'm developing hems once again...

They are between grade 1 and 2, no bleeding.

The problem is i have had 2 surgeries in the past already and having soft stools is difficult now for some reason. I usually go twice in the morning. The first one is almost always a little hard just at the beginning which causes me to strain to get things started. The second bowel movement is a breeze, no problem there. I have some scarring so this could be an issue.

I try to eat properly but i will confess i could go better so that's first on the list. He recommended i take Metamucil everyday. Has anyone else had success with this?

I will probably need something i can use long term so it must be safe for this. I'm terrified of using any laxatives long term as i saw the results of this with my aunt and the horrible problems she has now.

Thanks.

 
Old 02-22-2009, 05:41 AM   #2
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Take plenty of olive oil with your food. It is a natural stool softener and is much better for you than those over-the-counter laxatives. (Read my other posts for a fuller account of its benefits.)

I know what you mean about the hard beginning of a stool and it's usually that bit that does the damage to your anus and hemorrhoids. The bit that follows is usually soft. I think it is because the end of the stool has 'dried out' from the water you consume and the only way to stop that happening is to create an emulsified stool (oil and water) that resists drying out at its very end or may dry out but at least maintains some oiliness to keep it fairly soft.

When I'm out for a few days and cannot stick to my oily intake I am well aware that that first passing can do a lot of damage down there. If I think I am going to have a problem I'll douche the colon with water and wash out that first bit with plenty of water. It usually does the trick. You can get a simple hand held rubber douche from that well known on-line auction house that starts with e.

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Old 02-22-2009, 09:50 AM   #3
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Re: Soft stools a must

Thanks KB for your comments and advice.

I was taking extra virgin olive oil some time back but it didn't seem to make much difference. I would take 2 tablespoons morning and evening. Is that enough? How much do u consume daily? I do drink quite a lot of water daily also.

 
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I take about three desert spoons with my main meals i.e. breakfast dinner and supper. That is also on top of a couple of desert spoons of coconut oil. I'm very active so I can take the extra calories without worrying about putting on weight but if you are concerned about putting on weight then increase your intake of coconut oil and reduce the olive oil accordingly.

I'll also take a couple of sachets of soluble fiber every day. Too much oil and fiber will lead to stools bordering on the runs so you have to experiment to get the balance right to suit your own constitution. It's not easy to get it right every day. Sometimes the stools tend to be a bit too hard for my liking (particularly that first bit) and other days they might be a bit too soft. But as long as they don't cause pain or blood then you can say you've had a successful day. It's an art difficult to get absolutely right because of all the other things you eat which might effect how things develop in your gut, but as long as you take oil, water and fiber in good quantities then I don't see how you can fail to have reasonably soft stools.

My usual failing is not taking enough water because I often forget to drink when I'm working so I think the few times I have a 'hard start' is down to lack of adequate water. But at least I managed to cure my anal fissure with the oil, water and fiber intake and it hasn’t returned yet so it has worked for me well so far (fingers crossed).

I wouldn’t recommend over-the-counter laxatives to anybody as they can be bad for you with continuous use but oil, water and fiber is the natural way to go for sustainable long-term self help.

The Cretans consume about a pint and a half of olive oil a week with their food and they are the most long lived people in Europe so they must be doing something right in consuming that amount. But don't just take my word for it. There is enough evidence out there on the benefits of olive oil and coconut oil in your diet so I would recommend that you do your own research and draw your own conclusions. A good place to start is to type (or copy and paste) ‘The skinny on fats Mary Enig’ into a search engine and have a read. Cheers.

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Old 02-23-2009, 05:43 PM   #5
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Re: Soft stools a must

Hey have you heard of ghee?? what is your opinion on that?

 
Old 02-24-2009, 03:06 AM   #6
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It's good stuff, nothing wrong with using it according to Mary Enig who is a food nutritionist I trust because she backs up her views with sound evidence.

There are a lot of misunderstandings about ghee because it basically is reformed butter and the margarine industry has managed to turn people away from butter with a very pervasive propaganda campaign that margarine is better for your health when actually there is no evidence for their claims and the opposite is true. Personally I prefer coconut oil instead of ghee because it last longer once you have opened the container and I'm a bit of a waste not sort of person.

 
Old 02-24-2009, 03:36 AM   #7
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I'm going to try the oils once again and try and get the fibre up to what it should be. Does slow transit time also contribute to hard stools? i hope the extra fibre will help with that.

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Old 02-24-2009, 03:46 AM   #8
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Also, are there any types of foods that are especially good for making soft stools?

 
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I can only speak from personal experience but yes slow transit time can cause a hardened end to the stool because (if you think about it logically) it has had longer for the water to be drawn into your colon i.e. dry out so to speak. It's then that the douche comes into its own as it flushes the area to help ease expulsion.

Re foods. Obviously plenty of fruit is going to help make soft stools and any other things that don't take a lot of time for your digestive juices to break down. Meats probably take the longest to break down because of the fat content and probably all lipids including vegetable oils but not coconut oil because it is a medium chain fatty acid and doesn't require bile salts to act on it first.

The thing you want to watch is nuts. If you are feeling tender down below then nuts that have not been digested and broken down completely by your stomach acids can be quite abrasive as they pass through your colon. Having said that I don't avoid them I just make sure I really grind them with my teeth before swallowing. One you start being conscious of chewing it's amazing how many things you swallow without pulping them first. I eat anything and everything, even hot spices though I might tone them down a bit if I am having a hemorrhoid flare-up as I hate feeling like a space rocket.

 
Old 02-24-2009, 05:49 AM   #10
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A tip for you.

If you are going to start taking olive oil try taking one of your doses in a glass of tomato juice in the evening. It is a really tasty drink although a bit gloopy with the oil but still nice. As you are a 'bloke' the tomato will have a beneficial effect on your prostate gland. The statistical evidence of the benefits of tomatoes in avoidance of prostate cancer is very high (check it out). So you can kill two birds with one stone as it were.

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Old 02-25-2009, 03:42 AM   #11
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Thanks for the tip KB.

I have another question. Concerning the oil, is it better to take a little time before, with, or after meals or does it matter?

I started eating Fibre 1 cereal for breakfast once again. These high fibre cereals have the texture of wet cardboard and a taste to match. Adding things to it is a must to make it more palatable...

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Old 02-25-2009, 05:41 AM   #12
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I don't think it matters too much but the aim is to try to get an even textured emulsified stool and the way to do that I believe is to take the oil with some food or drink so that it mixes nicely in your stomach. Imagine you are a concrete mixer (ha ha).

I have been known to swig neat olive oil from the bottle when I've got home having been out for a meal. After a while (when you take it like that) you start to appreciate the different flavours and why you pay more for one brand than another. Always try to buy it in dark bottles so that light is kept away from oxidising it and turning it rancid. You pay a bit more but you can be sure you are getting fresh oil. Most people are ignorant (as I was) that supermarkets are probably selling rancid oil if they keep it and store it in clear bottles for any length of time and the customers don't know the storage times. In dark bottles it will last for ages in a cool place. The most expensive (and best) oil I have ever bought and tasted was Australian oil which I paid about £8 for. I was surprised because most of the best oils are reputedly supposed to come from Crete or Greece. After a while you start to look at the brands and where they come from like you would look at wines. After I've bought a brand I haven't tried before I'll take a few swigs just to do a 'tasting'.

I'm not alone because at the point of harvest and after the process of crushing the cold olives professional oil tasters then decide on its quality and price it accordingly. There are international standards they have to follow so that an oil from Italy can be rated equally with an oil from Spain etc. Quite fascinating when you get into it. The only difference between oil and wine is that you don't pay a premium for the 'year' of harvest with oil as it is not a commodity that will store for years so there is no point. Oil buffs tend to favour certain plantations and varieties of olive over year of harvest. I'm rambling, sorry.

Re fiber. Mary Enig advises against the 'processed' cereals because they've been subjected to extreme heat and messed about with to make them more palatable for people who find chewing 'whole' grains difficult i.e. grains that have just been crushed or shredded or whatever. Any sort of bran tastes a bit like cardboard but like you I cheer them up a bit with fruit and coconut oil is great with them.

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Old 02-26-2009, 03:16 AM   #13
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Keep rambling, i find it all very interesting and helpful.

I had the most effortless bowel movement today that i have had in months. I never thought i could be so happy about such a thing.

I hope very much i can keep it up with the combination of oil and fibre like u suggested KB. The mods here should make your advice on this a sticky here on the forum so others could link to it right away. Imo, it is very valuable info and thank u very much for it.

I haven't tried the coconut oil yet(haven't been able to find it just yet) and i'm not concerned about weight gain from the olive oil so do u still suggest both?

 
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Great result mate I'm really pleased for you.

Just a few cautionary notes for you to consider.

Try to keep your balance between omega 3 fatty acids and omega 6 fatty acids roughly balanced. That will involve taking an omega 3 supplement in the form of cold pressed flax oil and/or cod liver oil. I take both but don't over do. About a teaspoon of flax oil and a high strength cod liver oil capsule will do the trick and eat plenty of fish (about 3 portions a week is recommended).
Mary Enig believes that it is the imbalance between these two fatty acids that could be the cause of many of the degenerative illnesses suffered by people in developed countries because in less developed countries where they obtain a natural balance in their native diet they don't suffer anywhere near the same amount of illness. She backs that view with evidence. Margarine and other polyunsaturated fatty acids are the culprit for too much omega 6 consumed in the developed world, but if you have read the link I gave you you will already be aware of that. It is theorised in recent research that overloading the body with omega 6 leads to cell inflammation which can break out in all sorts of illnesses the cause of which have been a puzzle for years.

I have suggested in other threads that getting your diet right is an 'art form'. What I mean by that is that your body has an unusual knack of adjusting to what you eat and going back to equilibrium i.e. hard stools (if that is what you normally get). What I do to compensate for that natural tendency towards equilibrium is to avoid the exact quantities of oil, fiber, fruit vegetables etc. every day. I try to surprise by intestines by ringing subtle changes so that it doesn't get lazy. But I don’t cut down on water in fact I don’t drink enough usually.

Hope this makes some sense to you. Cheers.

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Old 02-27-2009, 02:58 AM   #15
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Thanks, i'll work on that balance and i"ll try and get more fish in my diet. I do eat sardines on occasion and love my fish n chips but i'm not sure if those count.

Another thing i've noticed. I love bananas. I was eating them everyday but i have a sneaking suspicion they may have made my digestion slower contributing to some hard stools as when i stop them things seemed easier.

 
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