It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....

Bowel Disorders Message Board

Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-24-2011, 07:22 AM   #1
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 3
3nigm4th HB User
Question Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Dear sir/madam,
Last week, I was diagnosed by two surgeons from two hospitals as having a "Fistula in Ano". I had the external opening of an abscess near the anus (around 7cm far away). No swelling any more, but I still can see the fus inside. I did not push the opening anymore as soon as I was awared that it is a fistula. I have taken 3 courses of antibiotics, but it still could not cured my abscess. I have no history of abscess in my whole life except I was not aware if I had abscess inside my anus. I did not experience any painful feeling. I have no swelling around the anus. The swelling just occured in the opening abscess. That's why I do not believe that it is a fistula, but two surgeons have the same diagnosis and it make me stress. Is it possible to have a "fistula" without abscess inside the anus? or, I am not aware of this abscess?

Now, I am very nervous as I am not ready to conduct a surgery. I had ever got a ligament surgery on my knee. It was very painful, and I think the "Fistula Surgery" should be more painful. I have to work and could not take a rest for this treatment.

So, I am wondering whether there is OTHER OPTION for curing my medical problem without SURGERY? While seaching the Internet, I found a local CLINIC which offer a treatment WITHOUT SURGERY.

As I am not ready to have a conventional surgery, I am very interested with this option. Anyway, I need to be more careful before making any decision. That's why I would like to hear your comments about this. Any suggestion is highly appreicated. Thanks alot.

< edited >

Last edited by hb-mod; 04-24-2011 at 08:17 AM. Reason: Please don't post unapproved website links, or copy and paste from another site, per Posting Policy. Thanks.

The following user gives a hug of support to 3nigm4th:
FrazzledFairy (04-28-2011)
Sponsors Lightbulb
Old 04-26-2011, 08:03 PM   #2
Senior Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ma USA
Posts: 3,393
sjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB User
Re: Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Hi yes it's possible for an abscess to be almost anywhere back there. Yes it is possible for healing without surgery. Everything done is at one's own risk and everyone is in charge of their own health care.

Diarrhea and constipation must both be avoided like the plague. After each bowel movement careful wiping with a very soft tissue or with a large cotton facial make-up wipe was used.
Somebody did hydrotherapy such as a warm water pour followed by a little cool water after every bowel movement. A hair dryer was used to help prevent germs from being transferred around with a towel.
A steam activated charcoal poultice was placed on the painful area to help with pain and to draw poisons of the infection out of the area. Two tablespoons steam activated charcoal can be mixed with a little water and 2 tablespoons flax.
The charcoal and flax can then be simmered together until there is a paste. The charcoal paste can then be placed in a paper towel to within an inch of the edge. The poultice can then be taped on the area with cloth hypoallergenic tape. If preferred it can be left on at night. Since it does help with pain perhaps it will be desired in the day. In winter the poultice can be kept in place with a thermal underwear as well tape.

When the site reached the point where there seemed to be no major infection or bleeding anymore and no boil like thing anymore a tea tree oil suppository was gently placed in the anus. After 20 minutes or less, a plug was placed between bowel movements using a large square of saran wrap and olive oil with a tiny water balloon no bigger than the size of the intestine and put the plug back in after each bowel movement to keep the tracts blocked from bowel movement entering the tract again. (if the water balloon is too large it will not go in). This helps keep bowel movements out of the tract until completely healed up. This must be done gently with no pain.

The rest of the saran wrap is left out as a tail so that it may be easily pulled out at the time of the bowel movement with a hand protected from bowel movement with a sandwich bag. Hands were washed after the bowel movement. A brazil nut inside the water balloon was used inside the water at first to help insert and later skipped because it was more comfortable and it was found that inserting it could be done without the nut with practice. Sitting was done with one side lifted up or hanging or a chair until well healed. This may not work if the tracts are too high.

Usually the medical profession will say not to do this for possible worsening, they do not advise putting anything at all up in the anus. Some people have said there is risk of worse infection with even death if there is anaerobic bacteria trapped by a plug. The risk was taken because of fears of surgery and a wish to avoid incontinence, infection and pain that many seem to suffer after surgery. The olive oil was said to be antibacterial. Looking at the structure of olive oil it was supected that the oil might also keep the plastic bag a bit away from the bowel. Olive oil also has oxygen in it so it was thought the anaerobic problem might not be a problem.

When bowel movements were had pushing them out was not allowed. To help with the pushing reflex panting was done not quite like a pregnant woman so intrabdominal pressure was avoided. When bowel movements were done a plastic sandwich bag was used to protect the hand and gentle pressure to block the tracts during the pass were done and then thrown out, a new sandwich bag is used each time and is cheaper than gloves.

There is risk that the pressure can move infection to other places. Of course all health choices are ones own and some people have had good results with surgery and some have not. One story had it that a seton was placed in someone and it was there for years. Some people have had blood and pus months or more later, others have had their setons come out later with good healing.

Last edited by sjb; 04-27-2011 at 11:55 AM. Reason: paragraphing for easier reading, additions made

Old 04-28-2011, 02:23 AM   #3
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 3
3nigm4th HB User
Re: Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Hi SJB...
Thank you very much for your kind information.
Currently, there is no much fus in the perianal opening of my Fistula in Ano.
No swelling anymore. But it seems that it is still not yet dry.... I found kind of liquid in my plaster each time I changed it (3 times a day). It is a waterproof plaster but the air circulation is maintained.

On next Saturday, I had an appointment with local doctor with knowledge of Chinese medication. I hope that he could suggest a better solution other than conventional medical surgery.

I found in the website that Ginseng with another ingredient could reduce the fus and heal Fistula in Ano. What is your comment about this?

Thanks in advance.

Old 04-28-2011, 02:37 AM   #4
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 10
FrazzledFairy HB User
Re: Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Be well aware that fistula surgeries are done by surgeons that may not have ever done the procedure; only having seen it done. True! I had the surgery and allowed a class to watch and learn. All for the good of science, huh? However, IT IS WORTH IT AND DO IT ASAP. Go to an oncologist (sp?) too for a third opinion if you like, they are a cancer specialist and the best and often most experienced in that area of surgery (many doctors told me this). Ask around, find out how many they've repaired, etc. A fistula is dangerous. Good luck to you, it's terrible and my heart goes out to you.

Old 04-28-2011, 02:58 AM   #5
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 3
3nigm4th HB User
Re: Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Hi FrazzledFairy...
Thank you for your reminder....
May I ask you a few question?
In my case, the first time I found the abscess near my anus around 7cm about one month ago. Two surgens had the same diagnosis that it is a "Fistula in Ano". But personally, I do not believe because I have no pain, no swelling no sign of abscess INSIDE my anus. The problem that I can feel is only the external abscess around the anus (one hole). I would like to ask you whether it is possible that "Fistula in Ano" occur WITHOUT a preceding of ANORECTAL ABSCESS inside the anus? I have no record of abscess inside the anus as long as I aware.

Old 04-28-2011, 05:45 AM   #6
Senior Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ma USA
Posts: 3,393
sjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB Usersjb HB User
Re: Curing Fistula in Ano without Surgery. Possible?

Hi Gensing was not tried unless it was an ingredient in the herbal bottles from other chinese herbal medicines. The chinese herbals did not completely heal it and it came back in addition it was very expensive.
I suspect that in some cases of fistula in ano there was a small tear or fissure first and then juices of the bowel may eat a bit into the area. It is possible I suppose but eventually infection may set in.
In the case discussed in the above post another reason surgery was not done was because it was learned that sometimes surgeries can drive the infection deeper. The doctor was asked about this and he said yes.

Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
Rectovaginal Fistula Repair questions? Finding the right specialist. Please help!! katjadakayle General Health 0 03-27-2011 11:43 AM
Shoulder surgery again? tossthepickle General Health 63 04-06-2010 02:12 PM
doctor visit-with or without pain medication? writeleft General Health 2 11-29-2009 12:36 PM
Glenoid Labrum Tear - Arthroscopic Surgery Jimmy B General Health 16 09-29-2009 11:53 AM
Post-Surgery Irritations Shuffle General Health 5 01-13-2007 07:16 AM
surgery next week.. sick now twizliz General Health 1 02-25-2006 07:43 AM
Surgery is done bird73 General Health 2 10-30-2004 08:35 AM
Anybody Here Knows Anything About Anal Fistula zokumo General Health 3 07-07-2004 01:48 PM
Surgery to reduce your height? huggabunch General Health 4 07-06-2004 11:34 AM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Sign Up Today!

Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. Join the conversation!

I want my free account

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:19 PM.

Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.comô
Terms of Use © 1998-2016 HealthBoards.comô All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!