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Old 12-11-2009, 01:11 AM   #1
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Head Injury

hi,

last thursday (a week and a day ago) my younger brother fell back and hit his head on the pavement, after a few seconds or so he got back onto his feet and was feeling fine with no bruise, cuts, or bumps to his head. he was feeling fine since and yesterday we took him to the doctors for a check up. his blood pressure was fine, at a normal level, his pupils in his eyes were fine and the doctor said that he hadn't broken or fractured his skull. the doctor said to look out for vomiting, extreme pain in the head etc just in case for the next couple of days or so just in case.

however i forgot to ask the doctor, if my brother had internal bleeding would this have affected him by now, how long would it take for internal bleeding to the head to affect someone? seeing as he has been seen by the doctor and everything seemed fine, he is probably ok and i'm just feeling overly cautious.

if someone is able to answer my question i would be grateful and would allow me to put my mind at peace!

thanks for all your help.

 
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:24 AM   #2
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Re: Head Injury

honestly? with most cases of true brain injury WITH some level of even a smaller bleed it would have in most cases actually shown itself in some way by this time. "something' more neurological would have become impacted. i am not saying this is an absolute, anything is possible when it comes to the human body, but more than likely the doc would have noticed something or there WOULD be some level of real ongoing headpain, especially within the first 24 hours following head trauma. chances and odds are that if what you stated above is going on and was done that he is probably just fine. it is 'usually' within that very first 24 hours that people who suffer head trauma like your brother did really need to be watched and monitored for any, even subtle types of neuro changes. it really does sound like he is healing okay.

just an FYI here for ya. if anyone really does suffer some good level of concussion or head/ brain affectation from trauma,there are some very real signs of it in most cases. unconciousness is one, and if they wake up and vomit suddenly or are very confused or combative, unequal pupils those ARE key signs of a real injury to the brain. and those are the people you call 911 for and DO NOT move at all or allow them to move. i worked ems for 14 years and also had my son suffer a major brain injury too. so i do have some good experience in this area. i too have suffered alot of concussions over the years. very accident prone there.

but if anything should change with him, it would not hurt to have him re evaluated. but like i said, i really do think he is going to be just fine. by the way, you really sound like a great brother. FB
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:05 PM   #3
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honestly? with most cases of true brain injury WITH some level of even a smaller bleed it would have in most cases actually shown itself in some way by this time. "something' more neurological would have become impacted. i am not saying this is an absolute, anything is possible when it comes to the human body, but more than likely the doc would have noticed something or there WOULD be some level of real ongoing headpain, especially within the first 24 hours following head trauma. chances and odds are that if what you stated above is going on and was done that he is probably just fine. it is 'usually' within that very first 24 hours that people who suffer head trauma like your brother did really need to be watched and monitored for any, even subtle types of neuro changes. it really does sound like he is healing okay.

just an FYI here for ya. if anyone really does suffer some good level of concussion or head/ brain affectation from trauma,there are some very real signs of it in most cases. unconciousness is one, and if they wake up and vomit suddenly or are very confused or combative, unequal pupils those ARE key signs of a real injury to the brain. and those are the people you call 911 for and DO NOT move at all or allow them to move. i worked ems for 14 years and also had my son suffer a major brain injury too. so i do have some good experience in this area. i too have suffered alot of concussions over the years. very accident prone there.

but if anything should change with him, it would not hurt to have him re evaluated. but like i said, i really do think he is going to be just fine. by the way, you really sound like a great brother. FB
FB,

Hi, I was reading your post here and you mentioned that you had some concussions through the years. I made a post in the General Health boards because my wife bumped her head today on an edge of a wall supporting stairs going up. Anyway, I wanted to ask you in general, if people suffer concussions throughout life, (like atheletes) does it mean that they have a better chance of getting brain tumors later on? Also, my wife has a pineal cyst on her right side (which is the same side she bumped her head) and wanted to know if bumping her head bothers the pineal cyst in anyway? She said that when she bumped her head, it hurt, but not all that badly and it was the sound of it that scared her the most. She also said that when she bumped her head, that she felt it in her sinuses which her sinuses and allergies have been giving her a fit today a bit. Her sinuses have been hurting a little bit, but she can't tell if it's her allergies or from bumping her head. She's in her late 40's if that makes a difference.

Thought I would get your input. Thanks so much!!

 
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Re: Head Injury

if you or she has ANY doubts here at all what so ever about this, it wouldn't hurt to at the very least have her evaluated neurologically at least by her primary or whoever is monitoring her tumor? but i do know seeing the specialists does tend to take more time than primary, so maybe simply see if she can be evaled today by the primary doc?

the possibility that she really 'did' anything major or serious by what you described would be pretty unlikely, but i really have no real experience when you add the other components to the mix here? so this is one of those better safe than sorry types of situations, ya know? if she was NOT at all knocked unconcious or even has any type of 'lump' over the impact area or displaying ANY of the other symptoms i mentioned above in the other post re head injury, chances are that everything is really probably okay in that dept. but there is always a chance of 'something" when other medical situations are simply involved, so from THAT perspective, just have her fully checked out with that neuro eval to make certain her reactionary testing is right on target, or her primary may also recommend her seeing that tumor monitoring doc as well? i just really do not know alot about her other problems enough to tell you anymore than get her evaluated if you have ANY doubts, and it would appear you do or you would not be even askingthis question here?

sorry i really could not be of more help. but that 'hit' really does not 'sound" like it was too severe, plus whatever you hit, esp things like wood(and most walls also have at least a layer of pretty soft drywall underneath too) that have 'give', also kinds of 'takes into itself/absorbs" some of the enrgy or impact vs like hitting a solid concrete floor would, ya know what i mean? if in doubt, just do get her evaled soon. hopefully everything is just fine. but please let me know what you find out, K? FB
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if you or she has ANY doubts here at all what so ever about this, it wouldn't hurt to at the very least have her evaluated neurologically at least by her primary or whoever is monitoring her tumor? but i do know seeing the specialists does tend to take more time than primary, so maybe simply see if she can be evaled today by the primary doc?

the possibility that she really 'did' anything major or serious by what you described would be pretty unlikely, but i really have no real experience when you add the other components to the mix here? so this is one of those better safe than sorry types of situations, ya know? if she was NOT at all knocked unconcious or even has any type of 'lump' over the impact area or displaying ANY of the other symptoms i mentioned above in the other post re head injury, chances are that everything is really probably okay in that dept. but there is always a chance of 'something" when other medical situations are simply involved, so from THAT perspective, just have her fully checked out with that neuro eval to make certain her reactionary testing is right on target, or her primary may also recommend her seeing that tumor monitoring doc as well? i just really do not know alot about her other problems enough to tell you anymore than get her evaluated if you have ANY doubts, and it would appear you do or you would not be even askingthis question here?

sorry i really could not be of more help. but that 'hit' really does not 'sound" like it was too severe, plus whatever you hit, esp things like wood(and most walls also have at least a layer of pretty soft drywall underneath too) that have 'give', also kinds of 'takes into itself/absorbs" some of the enrgy or impact vs like hitting a solid concrete floor would, ya know what i mean? if in doubt, just do get her evaled soon. hopefully everything is just fine. but please let me know what you find out, K? FB
Well, she seems fine today, she does have a little bump where she hit, and I asked someone their thoughts (because of the pineal cyst) and they said they would be more concerned if she hit the back of her head. Because of where she hit her head (front hair line calic area) they said that a bump was normal (duh from the bumping into the wall) and to just watch it. Then I read your post, and I start to doubt. Can you tell me if she had delayed reaction to the bump, what would signs or symptoms be? I was also told that a person has to hit the head pretty darn hard and like you said, the wall she bumped into was in fact mostly sheet rock I believe. If you can picture stairs going down to a finished basement and her bumping her head on the wall part of the side of the stairs which is painted on the side and has the same texture on the underneathe part as the ceiling does, that's what she bumped into. She was simpky walking over to a bookshelf that sits underneath the stairs and was looking down not paying attention and ran into the wall. Do you really think this could have affected her pineal cyst? I'm told that a pineal cyst is rather common and where it is, is pretty well protected..but I don't know. Your thoughts on this? Thanks again.

 
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Re: Head Injury

thanks for advice

 
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