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Old 07-08-2009, 02:08 AM   #1
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Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

*****Symptoms of my Imbalance
Heaviness pressing/weighing down strongly from top centre of head passing by both ears down to neck/shoulders towards back, spine & centre of body. This heaviness seems to be gradually increasing in strength since I got it in mid 2007. Head heaviest at back of head above neck (area sandwiched between both ears) Neck stiff, tight & heavy. Sometimes, slight pressure from both ears downwards, and feeling of fullness in ears. Feeling of tossing about in a sampan and feelings of being drunk. When I walk, my feet are heavy, feeling of a force pulling/pushing on the upper back of my body. (Like a stretched rubber band that springs back & forth) Always feel tired, lethargic & sleepy in the day. When I sit down, feeling of a force pushing me back against the sofa. Sometimes I could hear faint palpitation/beating of my ears/heart, especially after some kind of activity for about 10 minutes. (e.g. walking, stretching, getting up from bed middle of night) Only feel better when sitting down on a sofa back that I can lean back my neck & head behind it. Feel as if my heavy neck needs support in order to stand upright on its own. Once in a while, I get a split second slight “twitch” sore feeling on the right side of my head with slight pressure in right ear too. (Especially when I talk too loud/long or breathe in very deeply)

“Pull & push” force on the upper back of my body & feelings of tossing about in a sampan & feelings of being drunk are strongest when I do any simple activity e.g. bend head down eating at meals, type emails, filing documents, sorting/packing things, stand upright with feet apart for more than 5 minutes, sit down for more than 10 minutes on a stool. I get all above nasty symptoms whenever I exert/use strength to do anything, (stretch my limbs, carry heavy things, exercise), as a result my body/limbs movements tend to be stiff (robotic).

I only feel good when I lie down (e.g. sleeping). My imbalance has something to do with gravity. When I lie on the floor (horizontal) I’m OK & I don’t feel any heaviness, but the moment I stand up (vertical) slowly I get all the above nasty symptoms. In any day the only time I ever feel good is the first 10 minutes when I get up from bed. ENT specialists have confirmed that I am not suffering from Vertigo & I do not have “spinning” feelings or nausea. I can stand on any one leg without falling. However, I have mild ethmoid & maxillary sinusitis. My thyroid profile & blood pressure is normal. I’ve done 6 MRIs of the brain/cervical spine & the scans/x-rays say results normal.*****


I would be very grateful if someone could tell me what’s wrong with me.

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Old 07-26-2009, 08:43 PM   #2
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

Hi, sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. Do you remember what was going on in 2007 when these symptoms came on, such as a change in your daily activities, change in jobs, a move, etc? The only thing I can think of for you to check out is what I had years back, and it can be compared to allergies, but it was a reaction to chemicals in the air when we had our bathroom redone in our home. It is called chemical sensitivity and very very hard for a doctor to diagnose or even to think of. I proceeded to have many symptoms come on VERY similar to yours, that got worse over time, and the doctors could find nothing wrong with me except he did see I had a sinus problem. To make a long story short, the sinus problem was brought on by the chemicals in the air when our bathroom was renovated. the rest of the symptoms were brought on by the rest of my body reacting to the chemicals also, ( glue, drywall etc. ) and the way my body reacted was I would get very exausted very quick with any exertion, my muscles ached, I was tired alot, and I couldnt concentrate very well. I finally realized it was my own surroundings that were making me sick, this was 6 months later, after having to quit my job and seeing the doc for a supposed virus, and then the ear nose and throat doc. I had to do what i could to stay away from the chemicals as everything affected me after that and I got ill very easy when around just about anything that had an odor or floated in the air. Anyway, try looking up chemical sensitivity and see if this sounds like what is going on with you. Since it started in 2007, the symptoms can stay with you for years if you were affected by something then, and you can then atleast learn what to do to help yourself. I wish you luck and hope you find the cause.

 
Old 07-27-2009, 11:53 AM   #3
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

I have had similar feelings for years. My neck always feels tight and stiff. I always feel like my head is too heavy and it needs support. I feel like I have weight pushing down on my shoulders a lot when I stand up and walk. I have extreme arm fatigue. Sometimes when I walk I feel like I am walking in thick mud or something. It is a really strange sensation.

Do you have really tight muscles in neck, shoulders and back? I do. Even my hamstrings in legs are always tight. I think my problems may be tight muscles and anxiety. But why are my muscles always tight? I am working with a chiropractor who is restoring the natural curve back in my neck. Most doctors will not consider that as a problem. But, I am giving it a go.

Have you ever thought of that or maybe considered getting a massage?
Just an idea. I have been trying to figure out why I feel this way for years.

Let me know if you relate to any of this.

Thank you.

 
Old 07-31-2009, 02:55 AM   #4
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

my heartfelt thanks for yr info re our similar symptoms. I intend to see a chiropractor in Singapore re my whole spine in Sept & now I'm doing Swedish massage every week.

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Old 07-31-2009, 03:02 AM   #5
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my heartfelt thanks for yr info re my symptoms. I'll take yr kind advice re "chemical allergies".

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Old 07-31-2009, 03:34 PM   #6
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

Ro47, have you tried checking out physical therapy for your muscles? This is what they specialize in. I hope you get some relief.

 
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

Kasey,

I did go to a physical therapist years ago when my low back was really bad. She worked with me for several weeks. She said that I also had a lot of problems in my upper back which she though contributed to my low back problems. She would stretch me each time and one day she actually said that she didn't know anymore to do to help me. She said "I always stretch you but you just tighten back up." So I quit going.

Just yesterday I ordered a book called "trigger point therapy workbook". I'm going to try to learn it so I can work on my own trigger points. I have so many of them, At this point, I'll try about anything.

Thanks for your reply

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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

Ro47, it sounds like the one that worked on you years ago was not trained to do the deep tissue massage? And yes any problem with one area of your back does affect the other because they are all connected with numerous muscles. Stretching them will not do alot if the deeper problem is not taken care of. My therapist compared the muscles to a rubber band, he said think of a rubber band with a knot tied into the middle of it, and hold both ends and stretch it, that only tightens the knot in the middle. Our muscles work the same way. You can have a problem in your upper back, and have symptoms in your neck because those muscles are all connected. He worked on me for months, because I was in such bad shape, from my neck on down to my upper back into my shoulder blades, and lower back. It was actually very painfull, but worth it because my horrible symptoms started going away. He massaged the areas very hard to get the knots out, and my dizzy spells, balance problems, floating feeling, etc., all went away. I have heard from others that some therapists are not aggressive enough with soft tissue massage and give alot of exercises too soon, which in my case would have made me way worse, pulling the knots even tighter. I hope you find some help. The deeper problems are very hard to deal with yourself because they are hard to reach. I used to stand against a wall with a tennis ball up against my back and work on myself, this is what the therapist told me to do when I couldnt get in right away, that worked pretty good too. Maybe they are much more advanced in their training now and you could find one to help you today. Since it sounds like it is your entire back and neck, therapists are now taught to recognize when it is a muscle problem and take detailed info. from you to properly treat you. It sounds like you just may have had one that wasn't as advanced in their training as they are now. I wish you luck and I hope you find relief.

 
Old 08-02-2009, 12:47 AM   #9
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

To Kassey443 & ro47
I'm xiaomei, single female Chinese. Qysue is a fren who helped to put my symptoms here. I just read both your comments. I've been doing gentle Swedish massage/neck physio for about few months which helped a bit to reduce my discomfort. In Oct/Nov 2006 to de-stress I went for a long vacation in China, got a very bad flu, in Jan 2007 I got this imbalance. I saw several ENTs/Neuros, only one GP (Gen practitioner) told me probably a cold flu virus ruptured one of my brain nerves due to my then weak immune system. Aug 2008 I went to Singapore & did an endoscopic operation to remove 3cysts from my nose which at that time caused great pressure cascading down from my head. After the op. the pressure was gone but the "toss about in sampan" or "swaying" feelings remain till this day. During the past 2 years I took Tanakan (gingko biloba extract), Methycobalamin (Vit B12), Nootropil 1600 mg (brain tonic) & some other drugs prescribed by psychiartrists which made me worst. One month ago I stopped all those drugs, just taking daily natural supplements - Omega 3 Fish Oil EPA DHA, Methycobalamin, Glucosamine Sulphate, Folic Acid, CoEnzyme Q10 because I'm taking Zocor 10mg to reduce my now under control cholesterol. I find myself feeling better tho the imbalance is still there. I intend to see a good Chiropractor end Aug to "rule out" that the spine is not causing my imbalance.
ro47 you're doing chiropractic, how's it going, does it help, also the "lean against wall with tennis ball" can you explain further since I want to try that. Based on Kassey443's advice I've checked and I dont think I've come into contact with allergic things. Also my nose is always full of snort early mornings when I wake up, after hot meals or a hot shower over the head. If I blow too hard, theres blood stains. I feel I'm having a nose, ears & brain problem. Last Aug my ears felt blocked and full as if full of wax. Atfer taking some drugs they became ok, but still now both ears feel dry itchy, heavy & narrowing feelings. so much on me, any further advice? many thanks to both of you.

 
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Re: Tossed about drunk feelings, head heavy down neck

Qysue.,

I can't say that the chiropractor has helped me dizziness at all. My xrays have dramatically improved over the last year. My neck went from -11 to a +4 curve he said. It is supposed to be +18, i believe. I don't know if it will ever get to that point. He says that the soft muscle tissue will begin to heal after I get a curve back in my neck. We will have to wait and see.

Ro47

 
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Kasey,

No, that physical therapist wasn't trained in deep tissue massage. I wish I knew someone who was really knowledgable about that and that I could afford it. I recently got a book on trigger point therapy. It teaches you how to do it to yourself. Not as good as a massage probably. I also ordered something called a theracane which is supposed to help you reach the trigger points in your back that are are to get to. So far, the book is very interesting and I have found that I have many of these trigger points that are very, very painful. I have also been under a lot of stress lately, which I think contributes to my dizziness. I totally agree with all you had to say about the muscles. I know you are right. Thanks.

Ro47

 
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To: ro47 - I notice we've similar symptoms like heavy head, weight push down my shoulders a lot when I stand up & walk, tight muscles in neck, shoulders & back but no tightness in legs hamstrings, extreme arms fatigue - especially when I exert/use strength to stretch/raise out/up my arms for more than 5 mins, or exercise hand grips with the grippers. When I walk I feel I walk heavy like an elephant with weight transferred from one leg to the other, with the "pull push" force on my back like a "stretched" rubber band. Even as I sit & type this to you, I feel myself "swaying" from side to side with a force pushing me back to the chair since I'm sitting on a chair without allowing my head/neck to lean against something. Thus whenever I watch TV or read newspapers I must sit on the sofa with head/neck lean against the sofa back for stability. I feel the force on my back has something to do with my tight/stiff neck and the "swaying". How long have you been having these symptoms? My feelings in technical description - imagine I'm an automatic car that is driving forward in the reverse gear! Do you relate to all this to??

 
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qysue,

Yes, I can relate to a lot of your symptoms. I have had them for many years. I do have arm fatigue. Just folding clothes makes my arms very tired. They feel heavy. My chirpractor said that because I have had "forward head posture" for so many years that is the reason for my shoulder stiffness and my head feeling heavy. He said it is like your head weighs more when you are carrying it wrong. (it doesn't really weigh more it just feels like that to all your neck, shoulder and back muscles) I am going to go to him for one more year and if I'm not better than I am going to stop going. Have you ever tried massage? It might help. If you muscles are extremely tight then I think that can cause the "swaying feeling". I also know that anxiety can cause dizziness.

Hope you get to feeling better.

Ro47

 
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Hello ro47 - many thanks for yr quick reply. "forward head posture" means what? you always bend your head down and forward or has it got to to with your "distorted" spine? did you do an MRI of the spine other than Xrays? I'll be doing the MRI of whole spine in 2 weeks time before I go & see an experienced Chiropractor. I've never seen a Chiropractor in my life before. I've been doing Swedish massage for a few months.I can't do the "point" or shiatzu massage usually by Asians (Thai or Indonesian) masseuses which I find to be quite painful. Swedish is "gentle stroking" & its ok for me. I'm really not sure if this massage helps me but I do feel relaxed after doing. Have you tried acupuncture? I've tried for 2 weeks but it wud not help maybe the acupuncturist was not that good. Maybe both of our brain nerves were attacked by a virus??? did you have a bad flu before that and also a bad sinus, both of which I got before. Yes I think my "swaying" was originally caused by anxiety, worry, lots of stress, plus anger which I'd had before. Now I learn to relax, take things easy. For a ruptured brain nerve to heal takes years & it saddens me deeply to think of that because I was before my imbalance, a very healthy, lively, active outgoing person - I dance, swim, karoake, do taichi and qigong, brisk walking, travelling. That's why I'm trying all means & ways to find out from medical specialists & from all sources as to "what am I suffering from" to get cured asap. Yes I hope and pray that both of us will get well soon. from qysue (xiaomei)

 
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qysue,

No, I have never tried acupuncture. I have had a MRI of my spine. You can find lots of info about "forward head posture" on the internet. I think it is very common. I just meant that I have lost the natural curve in my neck and the chiropractor is trying to fix that. I hope you can find a good chiropractor. Some are good, some not that good. Also, I don't remember ever having a virus. I think that my dizziness is related to my neck and back muscles. Hopefully someday they will be better. I really think that my problems are a combination of my spine, muscles and anxiety.

Ro47

 
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