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Old 11-07-2008, 12:58 PM   #1
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I had two urine tests recently (ten days apart). Both tests showed moderate amount of blood in the urine though I cannot see blood in urine by eyes. The tests also showed "a few" bacteria in urine. I do not have any sympotoms. Since the bacteria are only "a few" and my WBC count is normal, I am not sure if this is infection. Is it possible that I have early stage bladder cancer?

I had upper ab ultrasound and the kidney looks fine. However, the ultrasound report states that this exam cannot rule out small solid mass in the kidney.

My wife is worried so much that she could not sleep. She thinks about the possibility of bladder cancer all the time. I have scheduled an appointment with a urologist and another appointment with a nephrologist. But both appointments are still weeks away.

I am 50 years old. I do not smoke and drink.

Will appreciate a lot if I can have answers from you.

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:37 AM   #2
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Re: Bladder cancer?

First of all, many things can cause blood in the urine, including prostate issues. Some people have that with no apparent cause...it's just kind of congenital. But blood in the urine always needs to be checked out thoroughly.

The best way to rule out bladder cancer is through a thorough cystoscopy. They can look at the bladder walls and, while they're in there, they can take urine directly from the ureters coming from the kidneys...in other words, urine that hasn't actually gone into the bladder yet. There are a number of tests they can do on the urine, including regular urine cytology and a couple of highly specialized tests: one is a FISH test, the other is called, I think, NMP. Those tests are highly sensitive for cancer cells from both the kidneys and the bladder.

What you need to do now is to make sure all the tests are done to rule out cancer. Meanwhile, the fact that you've never smoked is a definite plus, as smoking does increase the risk for bladder cancer (drinking may too, but I'm not sure...but you don't do that either!). Chances are pretty good that this is NOT going to turn out to be cancer or, at worst, if it does, it'll be such early stages that they can snip it out and you'll be fine. I had a bladder cancer removed in 2005, it was totally non-invasive and the surgery was so easy (they do it through a cystoscope) that I went out to dinner on the way home from the hospital!

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Old 11-10-2008, 11:25 AM   #3
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Re: Bladder cancer?

Ruth:

Thank you for your response. I'll make sure to discuss the tests you mentioned about with the doctor. One more thing, I have been losing weight recently. Are you aware of any weight loss in early stage of any cancer? I heard the weight loss usually occurs in stage 3 or 4 of the cancer. I just hope my weight loss is unrelated (to the blood in the urine). Thank you so much again.

By the way, my prostate test came out fine.

Michael

 
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Michael,
As far as I know, and I could definitely be wrong about this, but I've kind of always thought the same thing as you about the weight loss...usually happens in more advanced stages.

Is there any other reason you could be losing weight? Blood sugars okay? Are you stressing out more and not eating as much? Is the weight loss significant...more than a couple of pounds? If the weight loss is significant, then I would certainly be a bit more worried and would probably insist on a CT scan as well, just to rule anything out.

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Ruth:

I had a blood test and my blood suger is fine. I eat a lot. However, I still lost about 14 lbs recently. I am not sure from when. I did not notice this in the beginning, I guess.

My wife is so deeply worried. The waiting (for the doctor's appointments) is killing her. I try to be strong, though.

Thank you so much for your responses. I will see a kidney specialist 11/18 and a urologist 11/25. I will keep you posted if you do not mind.

God blesses you.

Michael

 
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Re: Bladder cancer?

Honestly, I think sometimes the waiting is way worse than not knowing. But I try to keep in mind the saying on my friend's husband's T-shirt: "Worry is NOT preparation." So true!

And actually, you got those appointments pretty quickly, as things go. It's only another couple of weeks. Of course, you may still need further tests to get answers, but at least you're on the right track towards those answers.

Yes, please do keep me posted. I'll say a few prayers for you too, Michael, for a good outcome.

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I had two urine tests recently (ten days apart). Both tests showed moderate amount of blood in the urine though I cannot see blood in urine by eyes. The tests also showed "a few" bacteria in urine. I do not have any sympotoms. Since the bacteria are only "a few" and my WBC count is normal, I am not sure if this is infection. Is it possible that I have early stage bladder cancer?

I had upper ab ultrasound and the kidney looks fine. However, the ultrasound report states that this exam cannot rule out small solid mass in the kidney.

My wife is worried so much that she could not sleep. She thinks about the possibility of bladder cancer all the time. I have scheduled an appointment with a urologist and another appointment with a nephrologist. But both appointments are still weeks away.

I am 50 years old. I do not smoke and drink.

Will appreciate a lot if I can have answers from you.
I am a survivor 2005 had blood in urine PSA was normal had biopsy of Prostrate which also proved normal. Scan of lower abdomin showed growth in bladder. Biopsy was preformed and was found to be milignant size was approx 3cm x 1cm. It was determined by Urological Group that I was a candidate for Neo Bladder with Conduit. What this meant was Bladder/Prostate to be removed a part of my small intestine was configured to bladder and all plumbing was attached. For the first 5 weeks i was basically an infant learning to control basic body functions a little embarasing @ 55. With the help of greatest wife in the world I am what we will call NORMAL. I am fully continent during the day continue an active life work as a normal person. Depending on fluid intake during day and evening may be a problem late night there is no nerves telling the brain to wake up and urinate this is built up over time and Texas Catater may be needed or Depends during this process. Sexual function has been restored but a pill is required, in the beginning an ED pump was used from Agusta Medical is no longer required. Just had a checkup from Urology @ 3.5 years and normal I did have Cat Scan bi anually for the first 3 years and no problems now it will be yearly as followup. I also have a great surgeon whom I felt totally confident with his Patient Skills and Academics that performed the Surgury. My worst problem was having family members in the Medical Field specifically Urology who were not up to date on new Technology and procedures. When in doubt PLEASE question Authority and get second opinion.
As I said i was a Candidate for this procedure the other side of the coin is the way our bodies are built if blood vessels and nerves connected to small intestine are not the elastic type that can be moved then that will be a different issue this your Dr can explain.
With technology today they have actually grown new Bladders with stem cell technology and succesfully transplanted them in the host patient

Prayers be with YOU

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Re: Bladder cancer?

DBD,
Thanks so much for posting your story. When I was first dealing with my own bladder cancer, I did a lot of research and found a site that discussed all the options for bladder reconstruction. I remember thinking to myself, "Oh my God, I do NOT want to have to go through that." But, as your story shows, there is often a lot of light at the end of many dark tunnels.

I wish you continued good health and recovery.

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Re: Bladder cancer?

I have also had microscopic blood in my urine, I was 51 at the time, I'm now 55. I had all the usual tests and a cystoscopy which were all normal. The urologist told me that 90% of patients with microscopic blood (you can't see it), they find nothing but do all the tests to rule out anything nasty. About 6% have kidney or bladder cysts or stones and about 4% have malignancies. So the statistics are on your side. I don't know about the weight loss, if it's not related to your bladder it might be an idea to have your thyroid checked. I hope it all goes well for you.

 
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Re: Bladder cancer?

I had a cystascope done when a very small clot appeared in my urine. I was diagnoised with transitional cell carcanoma ( the most common type) . I have under gone 9 BCG treatments as ordered by my urologist. I had another scope 3 weeks ago and no tumors were found. I will go back in 6 months for another scope I believe. The Treatments arent the most plesant things to go through but I understand they are better than radiation or kemo therapy and of course surgery. I was fortunate to have been diagnoised early. God Bless

 
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