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Old 09-07-2012, 04:55 AM   #1
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PH increase using baking soda

Has anyone tried using baking soda with either maple syrup or molasses to increase their PH? The theory behind this is that the sugar brings the baking soda to the cancer cells and increases the alkalinity which kills the cancer.

 
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Re: PH increase using baking soda

It sounds like a good remedy for heartburn, although it will make you burp a lot. Although the acidic molasses will neutralize some of the baking soda before the stomach acid gets to it.

If alkalinity cured prostate cancer, there would be no prostate cancer -- the prostate is already an alkaline environment. Sugar doesn't "bring" anything but sugar -- the molecules are separate. But it will cause an insulin reaction that will increase absorption of glucose and fatty acids, feeding cancer cells (and to a lesser extent, non-cancer cells). The enhanced glucose uptake by cancer cells is why F(18)DG (fludeoxyglucose) PET scans are used to detect cancers.

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Old 09-08-2012, 10:17 AM   #3
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Re: PH increase using baking soda

Thank you for the response.

You stated that "Sugar doesn't "bring" anything but sugar -- the molecules are separate."

I did a Google search on "maple syrup sodium bicarbonate chemistry". I found some analysis that described the reactions between the two. Apparently they chemically combine to form several other compounds (sodium sucrate was one of them). One of the authors believed that these compounds would be attracted to cancer cells and increase their alkalinity to the killing point.

I might have not worded my question correctly. I used the word "sugar" when I should have used "sodium sucrate and other compunds resulting from combining Maple Syrup with Baking Soda"

Also, the scenario I'm concerned with is where there is no longer a prostate but the PSA is high (~25). Just a bunch of Prostate cancer cells floating around somewhere.

Would this additional info change your answer?

Thanks again -- dale

 
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Re: PH increase using baking soda

Hi Dale,

I looked it up in an old chemistry textbook. You're right that there is such a thing as sodium sucrate. However, it is only formed from the very powerful reagent, sodamide or metallic sodium dissolved in liquid ammonia, which is then reacted at super-cold temperatures with sucrose. It's not something that can be formed from sodium bicarbonate (a very weak base). You can confirm for yourself that there is no reaction between baking soda and a pure sugar solution -- it won't bubble, get warm, precipitate, change color, or show any other sign that a chemical reaction has taken place -- nothing happens. Sucrose (a disaccharide)is hydrolyzed into its two component sugars, glucose and fructose, in the acidic stomach. Adding an alkali will slow down its dissociation, but not for very long.

I just came back from a lecture where Dr. Eugene Kwon of the Mayo Clinic showed quite a number of impressive cases where he was able to detect the source of rising PSA from recurrent prostate cancer using C11Choline PET scans. He then got rid of many of them completely using SBRT. He showed cases of men with recurrent disease and PSAs in the hundreds who now seem to be cured with undetectable PSAs. While he claimed that C11Choline worked better than C11Acetate, there are differing opinions. However, one or the other may be able to locate where those PSA-generating cells are, and possibly eradicate them. They are not necessarily in systemic circulation. A good friend of mine is exploring feraheme MRI to accomplish a similar thing if it is localized to a few lymph nodes.

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Re: PH increase using baking soda

Thanks again Allen,

I have tried using a Maple Syrup + Baking Soda mix w/o heat. After a time they totally separate out. When I heated the mixture (as the protocol recommends) the mixture turns into what looks like peanut butter and doesn't separate. Not sure if this is an indication of a chemical reaction? After taking this mixture for 3 days my PH went from 6.5 to 8.5 and holding. One impressive testimony of someone who used this approach had a PSA of 22. After about a week it was measured at 0.1 (zero point 1). (I realize that anecdotal evidence isn't the best source of info)
I'll get my PSA checked in another couple of weeks and let you know what happens. My last PSA was 29.

Thanks also for the PET test info

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[QUOTE=04chris;5052711]Thanks again Allen,

I have tried using a Maple Syrup + Baking Soda mix w/o heat. After a time they totally separate out. When I heated the mixture (as the protocol recommends) the mixture turns into what looks like peanut butter and doesn't separate. Not sure if this is an indication of a chemical reaction? After taking this mixture for 3 days my PH went from 6.5 to 8.5 and holding. One impressive testimony of someone who used this approach had a PSA of 22. After about a week it was measured at 0.1 (zero point 1). (I realize that anecdotal evidence isn't the best source of info)
I'll get my PSA checked in another couple of weeks and let you know what happens. My last PSA was 29.

Thanks also for the PET test info


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Hi Allen,
Just received my latest PSA test results.

History from the last 4.5 months:
June July Aug Sept 1 Sept 17

20.0 20.1 24.8 29.4 13.5

I took the Maple Syrup/Baking soda mixture for 10 days prior to this latest test.
Being a mathematician, I wouldn't draw major conclusions from this result. However, I will continue to pursue this approach and get another PSA test in 2 weeks. Maybe when my PSA hits 0.1 I'll really get excited

-- dale

 
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This is very interesting, Is this the only treatment you have used at this point? Do you mind sharing some of the details regarding your diagnosis? Thank you for sharing thus far, very positive results!

 
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Re: PSA decrease of 54% in 17 days

04chris,
I don't know about the chemistry involved in your regimen or the efficacy but I will suggest that you immediately make an appointment at a Radiation Treatment facility. Loma Linda is the closest I believe but there are several other world class facilities in the greater Los Angeles area.
Bob

 
Old 09-23-2012, 07:50 PM   #9
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Re: PH increase using baking soda

-- Post surgery Gleason = 3 + 4
-- Cancer found in seminal vesicles
-- PSA = 66 Prior to surgery
-- Blood in urine and semen prior to surgery
-- PSA ranged from 25 (@ 6 months after surgery) down to 5 (@ 2 years) then up to 29 roughly 3 years after surgery
-- All Bone scans and MRI's have been negative
-- I used a bunch of alternative supplements after surgery until now (too numerous to mention unless requested) -- Dr. Blaylock, Dr. Budwig, Dr. Scholtz, Dr. Rowan, and Henderson were major sources of info

 
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