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Old 11-17-2010, 07:38 PM   #1
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candida and alcohol

I was wondering if before any of you knew you had candida did you find temporary relief from drinking alcohol? I am having problems with head pressure and tremors, but when i drink alcohol in moderation i find temporary relief, but the hangovers the next day are terrible(my hangovers have progressively gotten worse over the past couple years)

I recently had blood work done and was positive for lyme disease but feel like candida could possibly be the underlying issue.

any responses are appreciated, thank you

 
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:40 PM   #2
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Re: candida and alcohol

Willowpoint:
I know this post is kind of old but i am interested in finding out more about your situation. I feel like i have an underlying candida problem also. i have problems with balance and tingling and internal jitteryness sometimes. I have lots of other things also. Can't get into it now. I am going to sleep. I don't sleep well either and i have to get up in the morning. What are the symptoms that make you feel you have candida? Also, what test did you do for lyme and are you being treated. I took the blood work for lyme from igenix. I had two positive bands and two indeterminates. What is your story at this point. LaLa

 
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:37 AM   #3
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Re: candida and alcohol

I guess that may depend on where you are in your treatment of the yeast because the effects of alcohol has changed for me. Alcohol is a food source for Candida.

I didn't really notice any difference in my symptoms when I drank beer a couple months ago but now that I've been treating my candida for 2 months, alcohol intensifies my symptoms greatly!

Lala...the best source of Candida information I've found so far is a book called Optimal Wellness by Dr. Ralph Golan, MD. There is a whole chapter on Yeast Overgrowth. There's quite a bit of info online but it seems as though most of them are ads for their own "cure" but, they're symptoms lists usually aren't too far off, just not complete.

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

Boucher:

Thanks for your reply. I do know a lot about candida. I am always researching. Also i have gone to many natural drs and have been treated. One of the key treatments is the diet and i seem to have a very hard time religiously staying on it. What supplements are you taking? I have taken many different things, but again, unless you stay on the diet without treating for a very long time, i don't think the yeast will ever go away. That is my take on the whole thing. What are your symptoms and do you have any other related conditions? Take care. LaLa

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

I've been taking Yeast Defense by Now Nutrition. It has garlic, caprylic acid, Paul D'arco, grapefruit seed extract and some probiotics in it (and it's cheap!). Recommended dose is 4 caps a day but I can't get over 1 a day because the burning in my face becomes excrutiatingly painful. I switched over to Candex because the theory behind it/no die-off was very appealing to me but, I still have the burning with that one too. I've been taking OrthoBiotic and eating plain greek yogurt for breakfast each day, too. Diet hasn't been horrible but I'll eat the cheese on my salad, i may have 1/2 a baked potato and brown rice. I broke down and started a 10 day round of Diflucan (100mg a day) and had to cut back on the dosage because it was too much. Also switching to RAW code Probiotic for Women in a day or so (once I get this burning from the Diflucan to settle down a bit) and it's one with 83 strains. The naturopath I'm working with thinks that if I keep my diet under control, start taking fortified flax daily to get my bowels moving properly and take the probiotic, he thinks I should have this under control in another 2-3 weeks. My fingers are crossed!!!!!!

Before I realized it was Candida, I was having all kinds of symptoms and was clueless on any of this! I would have flare-ups that consisted of my face, hands and feet stinging, sweats, freezing cold all over, exhaustion/incapacitating fatique, menstrual problems, bacterial vaginosis, bloating, constipation, extreme depression, just felt run down and on and on. The stinging would actually come in waves like hot flashes! I thought it was flushing at first. On good days, I had everything but the stinging skin I was actually on an anti-depressant that I had taken for anxiety for years and come to find out, it was making my depression worse because of the yeast! I think my overgrowth started when I was on a 1-2 months of hormone replacement therapy and extreme doses of Ibuprofen for about 4-5 months. A Medrol pack of Prednisone started the flares and put me down for about a week.

Now the only thing I seem to have left is that the stinging has become an intense burning in my face. (Large doses of Vitamin C help with that - it's nothing for me to take 15-20,000 mg of Vit C some days!) I tend to take the antifungals for a week and then take about a 3-4 days off to let the burning subside...it's gets to me mentally if I don't...it's so hard to stay positive and understand that it's working when some of the symptoms just keep getting worse!

I found an article on ***** the other day about a candida vaccine that they were working on back in 2008...I keep joking that if and when it comes to reality, I'm first in line!! lol

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

Bouscher;
How do you know that you have candida? When i mention candida to any regular drs. they tell me that they don't buy the 'whole yeast connection thing'. Only the natural people believe in it. I too eat brown rice. I also eat blueberries and apples. Organic only on both. I try to buy as much organic produce as I can. I also eat organic popcorn, even though you are not suppose to have corn on the diet. This past weekend i went out to dinner on friday night and i had a party to go to on Sat. night. How do you stay on the diet if you want to have a life? I had two drinks each night and junk that I would not normally eat. I have not given you my history yet, but I am going out now and I don't have much time. But just to give you an idea - I started with some kind of a virus 5 yrs ago and am still ill. A few months after the virus, i started with stomach issues. I continued with stomach issues, mostly CHRONIC GAS. I went to a health food store for pro-biotics and one of the people in store mentioned that it sounds to her like i have candida. I went home and researched it and i agreed with her. That was the start on my mission of getting better. It is 5 yrs later and I am still sick. I have been to every dr out there. My symptoms after the virus were CFS/Fibro/Candida type symptoms. Then two years ago i started with tingling on the top of my head and balance issues. Now lately the tingling goes into my face and feet. I went for an MRI of the brain and they saw white spots and some ischemic changes. I am going to a MS specialist on Wednesday. I doubt I have MS but my neurologist does not have any answers to the tingling on the top of the head. Nobody does. I have been to lots of drs. It could be lyme disease also. Which is another disease i am exploring. The problem is that my condition does not fit exactly any one disease. I have a little of each. I am going crazy. Anyway, i have to get out of my house already. I have things to do and it is already almost three o'clock. I will give more details later. Thanks for your input and for listening. LaLa

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

Hi willowpoint! A book I have about Candida suggests that those who have Candida should not use alcohol. Other general books on health that have nothing said at all about Candida also say to avoid alcohol because it is bad for liver, brain and esophagus etc. I hope this helps!

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

I'm going on symptoms, the fact that I respond to anti-fungals so strongly and 2 people that specialize in natural healing telling me it's candida, no actual medical diagnosis; although my endocrinologist shocked me when he said it's not that it isn't medically recognized, it's just that it's so hard to track and measure! I about fell off my chair! he said they just prefer to try pro-biotics before they go thru a therapy regimen. I got the Diflucan from my gynecologist, who has absolutely no idea about systemic yeast but listened to what I had to say and gladly gave me the script.

I'm not strict on the diet...I'm a beer drinker and I'm sure that's 1 reason why it's taking so long to get rid of it. I haven't had any sweets at all, I try to stick to multi-grain or whole wheat and minimize dairy other than my yogurt. I just do the best I can without making myself absolutely miserable. I also know about it making you crazy. I had to go talk to someone that works in the health food store locally on Friday because the die-off was so bad...wanted to be sure it was still yeast and not something else and that I wasn't just torturing myself for nothing!

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

Bouscher;

What do you mean by stinging? like when you put rubbing alcohol on a cut? I have tingling not stinging. I know that you are trying to be good on the diet, but from the concept in killing candida, you can't have any carbs at all even the whole wheat products because they turn to sugar that yeast thrives on. That is why, if we truly have an overgrowth, we will never get rid of it if we eat any carbs at all. Why did you go on diflucan if you are taking the other anti fungal products? Some natural doctors fel you have to rotate the supplements to trick the yeast. It that what you are doing? Let me know how you are doing. Talk soon. Lala

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

Yes, that's a good way to describe it. A burn that is so intense that it actuals stings...like a VERY severe sunburn yet the skin never turns red but does get very hot to the touch. I kind of stumbled on the fact that Vitamin C helps that...come to find out it's because Vit C reduces inflammation.

I didn't go on the Diflucan as rotation but an attempt to give it a big hit, big enough that I could go back on the natural afterwards and actually make some headway. I'm also scheduled to start cortisone epidural injections on my lower back tomorrow...even though it's a smaller dose and an injection to a specific joint, it's still a steroid and it's in my system so, I was trying to get rid of as much of this stuff as possible before my injections. I had to take a course of antibiotics about a month into my candida treatment attempts so I just keep trying to get ahead whenever i can.

There's no way I can stick to that actual anti-candida diet so I've made as modifications as I can. I rarely eat any bread at all but if I do, I try to make the better choice. I also don't see as much of a reaction to those foods so it's more comfortable.

 
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Re: candida and alcohol

bouscher:

I understand now your mentality. I agree. I think the same way. Steroids are not a good thing. I have a few friends who have been down that road. It can help for a while. You don't get any side effects from all that vit C. Are you using a good product? My vit c is a whole food product, but i probably don't take enough of it. It seems to be controversial as to how much to take and whether you can take to much. Good luck tomorrow. Keep me posted as to how you are doing. Take care. LaLa

 
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Hi Willowpoint: The book I read on Candida advocates using grains and beans in moderate amounts, but no yeasted bread, only the unleavened breads such as a type of flat bread. The reasoning behind this book was not so much to get rid of the Candida but to strenghthen the body so the body gets rid of it. I would not use the steroids as this lowers the immune system and increases yeast difficulties and antibiotics also do this.

There are ways to deal with infection so that antibiotics are not needed.

These can be made by making a stiff dough 3 cups flour to one cup of water and if desired 1/2 teaspoon of salt. The dough can be shaped into little balls and flattened by hand, rolling pin or jar and then heated with a small amount of oil in a pan on both sides.

Other flours can be substituted but using the same amount of flour and something to be sure the flours will stick together if there happens to be no gluten in the type of flour chosen.

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