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Old 12-09-2007, 10:30 AM   #1
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Are Antidepressants your answer to inproving CFS

Hi everyone, I have delt with CFS for many years now and it's no fun,I have a wife and a 6 year old and really find it hard to family stuff, every bit of energy I have goes into trying to make a dollar doing mechanic work to stay afloat on the bill situation,I usually drift from working at home to a friends shop but 90% of the time I have 3 good days if I'm lucky and burned out by the fourth or as I am today, just feel like I have the flu without the common symptoms, exhausted, aching muscles, low mood or just plain bad!! I try to pack as much as I can in on my good days,usually stuff I neglected to do on my bad but I pay for that good day the next, I'm sure most of you can relate.I have had many many test over the past 9 years all to come back good and I'm usually walking out the office with a baggie of antidepressant samples, some I tried with negative results others I've tossed but none really helped or maybe I didnt take them long enough? I usually tell the doctor the fatigue comes first then I feel down because of that,I can usually predict how my day will be when I first wake up in the morning,the good mornings I get up quick and the bad it takes me 30 minutes to muster up the drive to get to moving and finding drive is an all day thing.Has anyone here had any releif from using antidepressants to releive CFS symptoms? I'd like to hear your opinions on what works for you.

 
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Re: Are Antidepressants your answer to inproving CFS

My personal experiences with antidepressants has been horrible...nightmarish actually. For whatever reason, I'm extremely sensitive to them and they cause me to have extreme overreactions. I get symptoms of what's known as 'serotonin syndrome' when I try any of them even at the smallest possible doses. Bouts of extreme anxiety, panic, irritability, rage, depression, and insomnia usually result.

Therefore, I stay as far away from them as possible. Of course, I know my situation is quite unique. Although I've spoken to a handful of people that experience what I do, most do not. Many people actually find them to be quite beneficial and can they bring about a much higher quality of life.

So, it's an individual thing...especially for us CFS sufferers who all display this illness a little differently.

 
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:34 AM   #3
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Re: Are Antidepressants your answer to inproving CFS

Like C.F. said. I think it is a individual thing for each person. I feel there are different reasons why each person has C.F.S.

I have learned through my own experience that I could of done with out the antidepressants. I feel they only did my body and brain more problems. They really do a job on the chemicals in the brain. The doctors told me..."Oh it will raise the seritonin level and that will help you" Now isn't it odd that when I finally found the doctor I am going to now and had my seritonin level checked. I HAD NOOOOO SERITONIN...So years of taking those legal mind altering drugs...I would suggest staying away from them until you find the TRUE answers on what is wrong with you.

I would get to a doctor that knows about bacteria, virus's, protozoa's, and such. I had Lyme disease and Epstein Barr, Cytomeglovirus, Bartonellla, Babesia, Chlamydia Pnumoniae. and lord knows what all else...And it took 2 good doctors that looked outside the box to help me. Took 20 years of closed minded doctors to find 2...crazy!

So see pain pills, uppers, downers antidepressants...none of those would of healed me...dang doctors...

Keep searching you will find the answers...


 
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Hi,That's my problem "Finding a doc who thinks outside the box." I have saw 15 or more, they run the typical blood work other than the times I requested Lyme, EBV ect... I guess they run out of ideas and figure I need a ssri and it will solve all this? Who knows? I have tried many and I'm like ChronicallyFatigued, they just react opposite on me.I have suspected Lyme for 6 years regardless of the test results being negative because 8 years ago I had about 200 nymph deer ticks stuck on me after a hunting trip at one time and several other tick exposures since,never any bullseye rashes but not everyone gets them and my health issues began after the first bout of ticks so I feel there is a link.The doctors I've been to look at me like I'm crazy when I say over 200,so I started taking my wife with me on a new doc visit to vouch because it freaked her out there were soo many and to help explain my symptoms,even had one doctor say lyme does not exist in our state??.Jojo what you said is correct,that there is a reason a person has cfs,I am in the process of searching for a disease specialist to find the reason.

 
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Re: Are Antidepressants your answer to inproving CFS

HI Hyper. ....If'n I were you please think good and hard about gettting to a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor. That would be a good start in the right direction. Your odds of having Lyme is VERY high especially with that many ticks on you. I don't doubt that you have it plus co-infections. No wonder you feel horrid!

None of my test were so called positive either. I know I had lyme for atleast 20 or so years before I went crawling into a doctor that went on my symptoms. I had bands show and different ones on different test...

I hope you get to one. They go on clinical symptoms not solely on what a test says.

Please post on the lyme board and find one nearest you. Start your new year off with hope for some help. Infectious Disease doctors won't help you or you will keep getting it is not in your area. I saw S.C. and instantly thought LYME...

I wish you luck!

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Hyper79, I had very poor experiences with antidepressants myself. Went through "the families" of antidepressants with a psychiatrist about 16 months (yes, really gave them a good go) and all they did was stuff with me - my mind, my body, my confidence.

The final straw was the last type I tried, which gave me vaguely psychotic effects (I've always been mentally stable, if a tendancy to a little depression) I felt I could .... see... my... thoughts... trip... like.... this.... UGHHHH. I was going to the doctor saying "I think I'm going mad"....

All that stopped when I just stopped taking them.

One thing I suppose - low level of Zoloft did act as an anti-anxiety which kind of allieviated body tension - albeit with hideous side effects. Later on I used very small amounts of Klonazepam for the same bodily relaxing effect with much more success - for a short while anyway (extreme fatigue kicked in after a month of irregular use... ce la vie).

Regardless, using baggies short term is going to do nothing but harm to you and your CFS. DOn't forget coming off the damn things stuffs you around too. If you want to give it a good go do it with a (non-aggresive, non pushy, respectful) psychiatrist, get help with dosaging and follow coming on - coming off regime advice.

I found I had to be prepared to sensibly make my own decisions even if the shrink thought it was "worth pushing on" despite side effects, etc. Just had to think for myself.

 
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Re: Are Antidepressants your answer to inproving CFS

I took St Johns Wort for about 12 months, and it was horrible. It actually made me depressed - I was crying very frequently, something which I don't do very often. I was also irritable and would have 'fits of rage' - when I got angry, I got really angry and felt like I was out of control. I just felt like I was not the person controlling my thoughts and actions.

My doctor gave me a prescription for an antidepressant, but I never got it dispensed. Because I had pre-existing anxiety, everything seems to be blamed on it. I just can't get through to anyone that an antidepressant is not going to solve my extreme fatigue, dizziness, headaches, swollen throat, allergies, muscle weakness, heat and light sensitivity, irritable bowel.......the list goes on.

I don't believe antidepressants are the answer to anything. They play with the chemicals in your brain. They may PROLONG the action of serotonin, but they do not produce any new serotonin. So if you don't have much serotonin to prolong, the really there's no point. You're better off going on a diet which increases serotonin in your body naturally.

 
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