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Old 12-16-2003, 04:32 PM   #1
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Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Hey, I have pneuomonia right now but it seems to be getting better. I dont have the fever anymore but my heartbeat and pulse is still going really fast, above normal. Is this a serious problem or is it normal for someone to have after the fly despite the fact that I dont have the fever anymore.

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Yuna, how fast is your heart rate? Is it constantly fast, or does it settle down after a while? Do you feel it is a normal type of fast heartrate, a weak one, or a strong one? Do you wake with it beating fast, and go to sleep with it beating fast?

Also, are you still on medicine for the pneuomonia? What is it? Sometimes the meds can over-stimulate the heart.

Do you smoke, or are you around people who smoke, or do you drink coffee?

Viruses and bacterial infections can do a lot of damage, occasionally messing with the electrical system of the heart.

Hope you are feeling very well by now, and your problem has gone away!

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Nah, Im currently not around anyone who smokes but I am still on the medication. Its around the 90's per minute and it does not slow down. I feel as if its affecting my activities because it would beat faster than usual when I walk or run and I have to slow down and rest up. Any suggestions? I wanna get it checked out if this still occurs after I stop my medications.

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

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Any suggestions? I wanna get it checked out if this still occurs after I stop my medications.
I have read that the sooner that a rapid heartbeat can be treated, the better chance for it to be converted back to normal rhythm, without having to take meds the rest of your life. If it were me, I would get it checked out now by a good heart doctor, if you can find one.

90 bpm isn't excessive, but you have also said that it speeds up even more under stress, which is not good. Also, even at 90bpm, there is some concern, if it is misfiring within the ventricle, or bottom portion of your heart.

Your encounter with pneuomonia could have resulted in damage to your heart's electrical system. It happened to me after suffering from the flu.

There are meds that can slow down a heartbeat, and allow you to live a normal life, but they all come with some side effects. Finding out how to deal with the side effects is a challenge all of itself. It is better to have the heartbeat converted back to normal rhythm, if they can, than to have to take meds.

In the mean time, you might consider not doing anything that would stress that heart, like sports or other physical activities.

Regards, and best of luck.

 
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I had a rapid heartbeat that fast for the first two days that I had the flu. I also had pleurisy at the same time. (And I'm only 19, can you believe it!!?) Well, that was kind of my fault, since I was a smoker. At least the flu forced me to quit. Check with your doc about the hearbeat thing. My doc told me it was normal with pleurisy to have a rapid heart rate...
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

I am currently having the exact same thing! When sitting or resting my pulse is around 90-128 and when I move around it can spike up to 250. It spikes up to 250 when I'm resting sometimes, too. I'm really thinking this is due to a nasty flu because this started a little after I came down with a flu bad. I am going to a cardiologist now, though.

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Beerzoids, would you mind going into more detail about your experience? How did you figure out that's what you had and what were your symptoms? Thanks!

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

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Beerzoids, would you mind going into more detail about your experience? How did you figure out that's what you had and what were your symptoms? Thanks!
About 20 years ago I had what I thought was the flu. During that time my heart went nuts, beating at a constant 160 bpm, 24hrs per day.

After I got better from the flu, my heart continued to beat just as fast and constant, 24hrs per day. I let it go, and after about 7 months of my heart pounding away, I had trouble breathing, so I went to a hospital, where I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure.

Since then I've been on multiple medicines, and have had to make major changes to my lifestyle and environment.

I've also had several 24-hour holter ekg monitors, from which I have learned a lot. I take a detailed log during the holter, so I can find out how my heart is behaving when I am feeling different symptoms.

I learned that, even if my heart sounds somewhat regular, it can be misfiring. Even if my heart is beating around 80bpm, it might not be pumping correctly. The most telling symptoms for me, of my heart misfiring, is if it is pounding harder than normal, skipping beats, and breathing is not comfortable.

I found out that, when my heart first gets irritated, let's say by coming into contact with something that sets off my heart, like dust, the misfiring occurs mostly in the Atrium or above the Ventricle. If I then come into contact with another irritant, such as going outside when there is a high pollen or pollution level, the misfiring will get worse and more dangerous, and go down into the ventricle. At this point I will feel weak, my heart will get more erratic, I will sweat more, get nauseous and feel like passing out.

I hope this addresses your questions.

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

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About 20 years ago I had what I thought was the flu. During that time my heart went nuts, beating at a constant 160 bpm, 24hrs per day.

After I got better from the flu, my heart continued to beat just as fast and constant, 24hrs per day. I let it go, and after about 7 months of my heart pounding away, I had trouble breathing, so I went to a hospital, where I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure.

Since then I've been on multiple medicines, and have had to make major changes to my lifestyle and environment.

I've also had several 24-hour holter ekg monitors, from which I have learned a lot. I take a detailed log during the holter, so I can find out how my heart is behaving when I am feeling different symptoms.

I learned that, even if my heart sounds somewhat regular, it can be misfiring. Even if my heart is beating around 80bpm, it might not be pumping correctly. The most telling symptoms for me, of my heart misfiring, is if it is pounding harder than normal, skipping beats, and breathing is not comfortable.

I found out that, when my heart first gets irritated, let's say by coming into contact with something that sets off my heart, like dust, the misfiring occurs mostly in the Atrium or above the Ventricle. If I then come into contact with another irritant, such as going outside when there is a high pollen or pollution level, the misfiring will get worse and more dangerous, and go down into the ventricle. At this point I will feel weak, my heart will get more erratic, I will sweat more, get nauseous and feel like passing out.

I hope this addresses your questions.
Hi,
Last April, I had a horrible bout of the flu(atleast I think it was the flu). Anyway, this is when I started having tachycardia. I found out I had thyroid problems soon after(which they thought was the cause), but now my meds are regulated and I still have a rapid heart rate. My resting heart rate is now down in the upper 80's/lower 90's after taking Toprol 50mg for several months. But, as soon as I do any sort of mild activity, my heart races. It usually runs around 120-130 and doesn't slow down until I sit down and rest. I have had many cardiac tests done including: several ekg's, an echo, x rays, and worn a 24 hour holter 3 different times. All of these tests came back normal, except the holter tests showed I had tachycardia.
Now, my Dr. thinks this is all due to anxiety.

Well, now I have the flu again and my heart rate is even faster. Last night, I woke up shaking and took my pulse. It was 155. Today, it has gone down, but is still running around 110 at rest.
I was just wondering-could my rapid heart rate have been caused by the awful flu I had last April? Also, my Dr. says since I'm young(24), this rapid HR I've been experiencing won't cause any permanant damage. Is this true?
Thanks,
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

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My resting heart rate is now down in the upper 80's/lower 90's after taking Toprol 50mg for several months. But, as soon as I do any sort of mild activity, my heart races. It usually runs around 120-130 and doesn't slow down until I sit down and rest.
I've had advanced heart disease for over 15 years. One of my problems is keeping my heart from racing. Most of the time, mild activity doesn't cause my heart to race. External irritants, such as dust, smoke, high pollen or pollution levels outside, chemicals, etc., will cause my heart to race.

If "mild activity" is causing your heart to race, then your medicine(s) are not doing a good job, right? No heart medicine can prevent someone's heart from racing at all times, but the proper meds should be able to keep someone's heart fairly stable, unless there are "constant" external irritants, such as those that I mentioned.

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I have had many cardiac tests done including: several ekg's, an echo, x rays, and worn a 24 hour holter 3 different times. All of these tests came back normal, except the holter tests showed I had tachycardia.
Now, my Dr. thinks this is all due to anxiety.
Anxiety and stress can cause health problems, but they are only two of the factors. There are many more irritants besides anxiety and stress than can effect someone's health or heart rhythm.

Some doctors, who have no idea what to do, don't want to look as stupid as they seem, so they blame the symptoms on the patient. This happens all the time.

Can stress or anxiety effect your heart? Of course it can. Can it effect it all the time, even when you are doing mild activity and your mind is not on your heart? It could, but there are many more possibilities, that are much more probable.

Did you get a copy of your Holter summary report? Did you press the "event" button on the holter when your heart started beating faster?

I'd be willing to bet that your holter test showed all kinds of heart rhythm problems besides the tachycardia. The problems are recorded as either ectopic supraventricular, or ventricular beats. The doctors say that these beats are normal because they don't know what to do about them and because they don't really understand them. In a lot of cases ectopic beats are not necessarily dangerous, but they indicate problems with the heart rhythm which should be addressed.

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Well, now I have the flu again and my heart rate is even faster. Last night, I woke up shaking and took my pulse. It was 155. Today, it has gone down, but is still running around 110 at rest.
Sorry to hear about your misery. Of course the doctor might tell you that your flu was caused by anxiety. Or that your heart is now beating even faster due to your anxiety. Or..... that you were experiencing anxiety while you were sleeping! What a bunch of stupid nonsense! I hate doctors who blame the patient for the patient's symptoms. They should have their licenses taken away!

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I was just wondering-could my rapid heart rate have been caused by the awful flu I had last April?
Yes. Unfortunately, it happens to people all the time.

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Also, my Dr. says since I'm young(24), this rapid HR I've been experiencing won't cause any permanant damage. Is this true?
Thanks,
hilery
If your doctor doesn't even know that a virus or bacterial infection will cause heart rhythm problems, how much faith do you have in his opinion of your heart problems?

A heart is not supposed to race all the time. In my case, my heart beat forcefully at 160bpm for 7 or 8 straight months, 24 hours a day, and it resulted in my heart failure disease.

I don't want to scare you or make you feel worse than you do. In my case, I got heart failure over 15 years ago, and I am still OK.

I would assume, if I were you, that your heart is not supposed to beat fast, and that it is not good for you to have it beating like that all the time. Besides that, even if it was safe, which I doubt, I wouldn't want to go around the rest of my life with my heart jumping in my chest all the time. You need to get your hearbeat under control. You also need to go to a good cardiologist or heart doctor.

Toprol might not be a suitable med for you. It is mostly to treat high blood pressure and chest pain, and is often used for people with heart failure. It also slows the heart, but that is not it's primary roll. Did your doctor tell you why he put you on Toprol? Did you have high blood pressure? How is your blood pressure on that medicine? Do you get light headed more often since you've been on Toprol?

I am on Digoxin, which is very effective at keeping my heart beating correctly, has been around forever, and is dirt cheap.

Heart meds come with side effects. Digoxin's worst side effect, for me, is it makes me lethargic and unergetic. So.... it doesn't just slow down my heart, it slows the rest of me down also. But, it is something that I can live with, and can overcome.

Lastly, let's assume that your unskilled doctor is right about anxiety causing your heart problems, OK? Well, so what?! You still have a heart rhythm problem which is not being properly addressed by him. I wouldn't care if my tachycardia was being caused by the moon! I still need the appropriate medical approach in order to restore the normal rhythm of my heart.

I hope this helps. Best of luck and health!

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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Beerzoids --

You seem to have a pretty good handle on your heart problems, and also as they relate to these respiratory ailments like flu, etc.

Right now I have a nasty sore throat, which may or may not be turning into a "cold," but my arrythmia problem has kicked into high gear just today since I'm home. I get SVTs, supposedly "benign" and have had them on and off, sometimes for days at a time, for about 4-5 years now. I'm 54 currently.

I know they are common in middle-aged people and they can be made worse or brought on by stress/anxiety/panic. Well, I've been through several EKGs, weeks of an "event" monitor, Atenolol (low dose, 25 mg only per day) and finally a stress-ECHO two years ago.

Sometimes I can go for days/weeks feeling nothing at all -- other times my heart flip flops all day for days on end. I have a BP machine at home and with Atenolol BP is quite low most of the time. Before the palps started years ago, I always had a resting heart rate of 96 -- for YEARS. I had no problem with that and no doc ever said that was too fast.

I agree that many of these docs, including the super specialists, don't know precisely what to do. I KNOW I am stressed and anxious -- always have been. Even if I am not thinking about my "condition" or in some other way "sick" that makes it worse, the flip flops and all the fears/annoyances that go with them can crop up. One doesn't have to be consciously aware of thinking about heart rates/palps -- just having it in the back of our minds is enough to set us off.

Interestingly, I rarely am bothered by this while sleeping, i.e., I rarely am awakened by pounding heart unless I've had some crazy dream or other.

It's amazing that so many people here on this particular board are talking about heart "problems" when it's a colds/flu message board. Obviously, there is a big connection between the heart and these respiratory illnesses.

I hope your good posts have helped some of the concerned newcomers to heart peculiarities. In most cases, they probably are due to illness/stress, but it seems we never really know, do we?

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I've had advanced heart disease for over 15 years. One of my problems is keeping my heart from racing. Most of the time, mild activity doesn't cause my heart to race. External irritants, such as dust, smoke, high pollen or pollution levels outside, chemicals, etc., will cause my heart to race.

If "mild activity" is causing your heart to race, then your medicine(s) are not doing a good job, right? No heart medicine can prevent someone's heart from racing at all times, but the proper meds should be able to keep someone's heart fairly stable, unless there are "constant" external irritants, such as those that I mentioned.



Anxiety and stress can cause health problems, but they are only two of the factors. There are many more irritants besides anxiety and stress than can effect someone's health or heart rhythm.

Some doctors, who have no idea what to do, don't want to look as stupid as they seem, so they blame the symptoms on the patient. This happens all the time.

Can stress or anxiety effect your heart? Of course it can. Can it effect it all the time, even when you are doing mild activity and your mind is not on your heart? It could, but there are many more possibilities, that are much more probable.

Did you get a copy of your Holter summary report? Did you press the "event" button on the holter when your heart started beating faster?

I'd be willing to bet that your holter test showed all kinds of heart rhythm problems besides the tachycardia. The problems are recorded as either ectopic supraventricular, or ventricular beats. The doctors say that these beats are normal because they don't know what to do about them and because they don't really understand them. In a lot of cases ectopic beats are not necessarily dangerous, but they indicate problems with the heart rhythm which should be addressed.



Sorry to hear about your misery. Of course the doctor might tell you that your flu was caused by anxiety. Or that your heart is now beating even faster due to your anxiety. Or..... that you were experiencing anxiety while you were sleeping! What a bunch of stupid nonsense! I hate doctors who blame the patient for the patient's symptoms. They should have their licenses taken away!



Yes. Unfortunately, it happens to people all the time.



If your doctor doesn't even know that a virus or bacterial infection will cause heart rhythm problems, how much faith do you have in his opinion of your heart problems?

A heart is not supposed to race all the time. In my case, my heart beat forcefully at 160bpm for 7 or 8 straight months, 24 hours a day, and it resulted in my heart failure disease.

I don't want to scare you or make you feel worse than you do. In my case, I got heart failure over 15 years ago, and I am still OK.

I would assume, if I were you, that your heart is not supposed to beat fast, and that it is not good for you to have it beating like that all the time. Besides that, even if it was safe, which I doubt, I wouldn't want to go around the rest of my life with my heart jumping in my chest all the time. You need to get your hearbeat under control. You also need to go to a good cardiologist or heart doctor.

Toprol might not be a suitable med for you. It is mostly to treat high blood pressure and chest pain, and is often used for people with heart failure. It also slows the heart, but that is not it's primary roll. Did your doctor tell you why he put you on Toprol? Did you have high blood pressure? How is your blood pressure on that medicine? Do you get light headed more often since you've been on Toprol?

I am on Digoxin, which is very effective at keeping my heart beating correctly, has been around forever, and is dirt cheap.

Heart meds come with side effects. Digoxin's worst side effect, for me, is it makes me lethargic and unergetic. So.... it doesn't just slow down my heart, it slows the rest of me down also. But, it is something that I can live with, and can overcome.

Lastly, let's assume that your unskilled doctor is right about anxiety causing your heart problems, OK? Well, so what?! You still have a heart rhythm problem which is not being properly addressed by him. I wouldn't care if my tachycardia was being caused by the moon! I still need the appropriate medical approach in order to restore the normal rhythm of my heart.

I hope this helps. Best of luck and health!

 
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Re: Help...rapid heartbeats and pulse

Thanks guys. my heartbeat and pulse returned to normal now which is good I guess. But I still wanna go and make sure everything is fine so I dont have to worry about the consequences. On my next doctor's visit when it comes up, Im just gonna double check to make sure everythings ok.

Those who are still sick and have the flu, I truly hope you get better soon. I've been there and it sucks so feel better!

 
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