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Old 03-29-2004, 10:11 AM   #1
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Implants V dentures or partial dentures?

In common with Jackofhearts on this board took I have a job where I deal with people all day long. My speech slightly changed when my teeth seemed to have shifted position slightly but I have gotten used to that and can speak normally again. I am sure that would be what would happen with dentures. I would be eligible for a career break in December so I reckon I could take one and get teeth sorted out. God, listen to me...........I am rambling. I haven't even had the first appointment yet but I see it all, bone loss, gum disease, mobile teeth, misalighed teeth, acid damage from vomiting. I think I know what they will say already........................
I was just speaking to a friend of mine online. She told me that she only has a few real teeth left in her head! Again, I am amazed because you would never know. She told me that she also had 6 implants at a cost of 3 grand each but she was lucky that her parents and husband could help with cost. She said she would have remortgaged the house it was so important to her. What about implants? Has anyone considered them instead of dentures? What would prevent someone getting implants apart from the cost?

 
Old 03-29-2004, 10:54 AM   #2
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Chego wel i live here in vermont. I would love to get implants and in the end that is what i hope to end up with. I'll be getting dentures on june 8( if i get teeth pulled)lol. So in 90 days i plan to get two post for bottom denture to clip on and then a few more post till i have 6 then they can make a bridge that attaches to these posts and then there you have teeth again that you dont have to take out every night.Then i will repeat the process for top. this has been the only way i have found to be able to afford implants.Long process but worth it.anyway i know i didnt help answer any questions but im just as curious as you....always gossgal

 
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Old 03-29-2004, 02:19 PM   #3
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Re: Implants V dentures or partial dentures?

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Chego wel i live here in vermont. I would love to get implants and in the end that is what i hope to end up with. I'll be getting dentures on june 8( if i get teeth pulled)lol. So in 90 days i plan to get two post for bottom denture to clip on and then a few more post till i have 6 then they can make a bridge that attaches to these posts and then there you have teeth again that you dont have to take out every night.Then i will repeat the process for top. this has been the only way i have found to be able to afford implants.Long process but worth it.anyway i know i didnt help answer any questions but im just as curious as you....always gossgal
Hiya
My friend did something like that. I can't believe how phenomenal the cost for implants is. She tells me they are titanium because that is what acts most like bone. The titanium forms the core of the tooth and then they put crowns over them in the normal way (whatever that is). :-) I am in Ireland and everything costs more here! My friend is in the Uk where things are cheaper. I don't even know what I will need yet as I still haven't made the initial appointment. As I sit here typing this it is 11.20pm and I am just so sad because I can feel my teeth tingling and yet I still haven't done anything about it. I am gaining so much knowledge through these boards though, which is a help. I really hadn't a clue as I have never been to a dentist in my llife and everytime someone even mentioned the word dentist or teeth I would go quiet, change subject or just leave the room. At least now I can say the word and even talk about it without having palpitations! Anyway, I think implants would be the best weay to go if at all possible though I think if a persons gums have receded too much, it';s not possible to have them.
Anyway, gossgirl, take care of yourself and I'm thinking of yuo and still sending positive vibes through the computer and across the world to you.x

 
Old 03-29-2004, 04:13 PM   #4
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Muahhhh to you chego....lol.Yes this is sad situation for anyone experiencing it. i have days where i hate to see the sun rise.Once i made th inital appointment i started to feel a bit better just knowing help is on way. I too could not even have a conversation about teeth,dentist i even hated to go buy toothpaste!I just know i have a problem and i want to fix it. i live in usa so im not sure if we are more expensive than u are there.I know its 1,200 us$ just for one titanium post not including the crowns that attach to the six implants.You can and will do it when you get ready.Im pullin for ya. Keep me posted and try to keep that chin at least 1/2 the way up!.....always gossgal

 
Old 03-30-2004, 12:58 PM   #5
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Muahhhh to you chego....lol.Yes this is sad situation for anyone experiencing it. i have days where i hate to see the sun rise.Once i made th inital appointment i started to feel a bit better just knowing help is on way. I too could not even have a conversation about teeth,dentist i even hated to go buy toothpaste!I just know i have a problem and i want to fix it. i live in usa so im not sure if we are more expensive than u are there.I know its 1,200 us$ just for one titanium post not including the crowns that attach to the six implants.You can and will do it when you get ready.Im pullin for ya. Keep me posted and try to keep that chin at least 1/2 the way up!.....always gossgal
The girl I was telling you about who got the implants was petrified, just like me. She suffers with depression also. I think my teeth are at the root of my depressions and always have been. My ugly mouth has affected all areas of my life and it's horrible because there is a loud and funny person in here dying to get out! Sometimes I want to join in a laugh and crack a joke at work but I daren't for fear everyone will turn to look at me - I know you know what I mean goss girl as does mystic venus and lots of other people here! Anyway, this friend of mine says that at the time she made the decision it was really, really hard for her and felt it was a viscious circle. She says it was hell but now it is all behind her and she feels and looks great but she did think like us once and now she looks back and says what a silly beggar she was for not believing! Her words give me comfort. I know she knows what we are going through and she desperately wants us to belive we will get through it and come out with a lovely smile - just like her!

Again, lots of love and vibes coming through the computer and across the world to you luvvie! xxxxxxxxxxx

 
Old 03-30-2004, 01:02 PM   #6
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Does anyone get angry with themselves for letting it go this far?

 
Old 03-31-2004, 09:29 AM   #7
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Yep. Even now with it all over and the dentures in my mouth, I think, if i'd only done (you fill in the blank). I decided to quit beating myself up over it. What is done, is done and can't be undone. I had poor teeth to start with. Every trip to the dentist as a child would be 10 or 12 cavities and that was with brushing, flossing, flouride treatments, cleanings every 6 months, you name it. The past can't be changed, so quit worrying about it and starting making plans for the future.

 
Old 03-31-2004, 12:04 PM   #8
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Yep. Even now with it all over and the dentures in my mouth, I think, if i'd only done (you fill in the blank). I decided to quit beating myself up over it. What is done, is done and can't be undone. I had poor teeth to start with. Every trip to the dentist as a child would be 10 or 12 cavities and that was with brushing, flossing, flouride treatments, cleanings every 6 months, you name it. The past can't be changed, so quit worrying about it and starting making plans for the future.
I know you are right Mystic Venus and I wish I could stop worrying about it. However, I do feel I have made a little progress by actually being able to discuss it and read all the things on these boards without vomiting with fear!!! I have also got the appointment now if I can only make it there! I will certainly do my best to programme myself into going. I have been learning self-hypnosis to see if it will help too! lIke you, I had poor teeth to start with . I probably told you this before but my mother told me recently that she noticed when my adult teeth came through when I was a child that they hadn't grown right and were crooked and misaligned. She thought to herself that I would have the same trouble as she had all her life and resigned herself to that. I went mad and we had a massive row! I could not believe that she noticed my problem back then and didnt make any attempt to do anything about it. She cried then and I felt bad because she is 70 and getting on in years and my Dad died a couple of years ago and she has been very emotional since then. She said that nobody went to the dentist in those days but I know that is not true because my friends did. However, as yuo say, I must look to the future now and who knows, if you can inherit bad teeth, then I may have been unlucky to start with and maybe no matter how much treatment I had in the past, I wuld still be looking at dentures at some point in the future. You are right Mystic Venus! ONWARDS AND FORWARDS (to the appointment anyway!). :-)

 
Old 04-02-2004, 09:34 PM   #9
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Re: Implants V dentures or partial dentures?

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Chego wel i live here in vermont. I would love to get implants and in the end that is what i hope to end up with. I'll be getting dentures on june 8( if i get teeth pulled)lol. So in 90 days i plan to get two post for bottom denture to clip on and then a few more post till i have 6 then they can make a bridge that attaches to these posts and then there you have teeth again that you dont have to take out every night.Then i will repeat the process for top. this has been the only way i have found to be able to afford implants.Long process but worth it.anyway i know i didnt help answer any questions but im just as curious as you....always gossgal

I also have dentures, and eventually want to get implant posts to hold them in better. Also, I hate to EVER have to take them out to brush. It makes me feel (and look) 90 rather than 37 yrs. old.
What price did your dentist quote you for the two bottom posts?

 
Old 04-04-2004, 12:40 PM   #10
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Chego and everyone else. I is really upseting to hear that you have had to have all your teeth taken out and denture(or are considering it). Implants vs. denture are always the best was to go. I will tell you why. When teeth are pulled what happens is that you lose bone in the area that the tooth was pulled. So if you pull all your teeth then you can image what happens to the jaw bones. Over time (years) the bone that supports the denture you got ten years ago is not the same and you denture becomes loose. They start not to fit anymore. This is the worst on the bottom because you have not suction like you do on the top(because of the roof of the mouth). so if you can save teeth and do partials this is important. What also happen if your teeth and jaw keep your facial feature. So if you take them out your face start to sink in and your features change. So this is why i have to see people get rid of their teeth. It is very upseting. Implants are great. They are made of titanium and surgeicaly put into the bone. So you usually see a periodontist for this or and oral surgen. Sometime they place these in one appointment or two. Then when you have healed you go back to your normal dentist and he will take impression and have crowns made. What is great about this is that you don't lose the bone. When the titanium post are made your bone fuse to them and keep you from losing that bone. Whats even better is that they cannot decay. Which means no pain(except a little after they are placed for healing time). Two reasons people don't get implants the cost(insurance(most)don't cover this yet still to new) and that there is already to much bone loose to place the post. It never hurt to go see a speacialisit first and get all the information you can. this is a huge decision and you don't want to make it lightly. Some people think there just teeth, but they are more then that. Teeth are improtant expecially when you are working with people so much. Teeth affect your self-confindence so please don't make this decision lightly. One other thing about denture is that i have seen some many people get feed up with trying to adjust to them that they end up not wearing. They are very diffcult to get use to. Implants with the dentures are also a good idea. Goodluck and i hope this information helps.

 
Old 04-04-2004, 03:49 PM   #11
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Brwneye, thanks for that info. It's kind of what I think anyway, though I haven't got any direct experience yet! Although that is what I think and what you confirm, I am sure it can be different for different people. Mystic Venus seems to be coping very well and is a source of inspriation on this board, I have to say! I am only surmising what might happen to me at my very first appointment on Wednesday. I have just hit 38 last month and I have never been to a dentist in my whole life! Of course, I regret that now. At the same time, people like Mystic Venus attended dentists but had poor teeth anyway and ended up just the same way. I can only say that I think implants are the way to go because of my friend in England. She has had implants and to look at her you would never, ever know. She looks great and she says it is great for her confidence that she doesn't have to take her teeth out! She will be having her first baby in August and she used to worry about having to have her teeth out during labour but now that she has the implants, she won't have to do that. It's horrible when you go into hospital and have to take them out. My poor father died in hospital in 2001 and I will never forget how that handsome man looked with his teeth out. It might seem trivial to some but to my Dad and people on this board, it was kind of humiliating. I don't know whay they make you take your teeth out and all that sort of stuff when you have operations and stuff, do you? Is it something to do with chemical reaction or what? The person is already humiliated as far as they can be, and in my poor father's case had lost most of his dignity through colorectal cancer, God bless him. It really upset him when he had to take the teeth out and receive visitors like that. We didn't give a hoot, we all loved him but for himself it was a big thing! I understand how he felt! I really think if possible implants ar ethe way to go. Anyway, I am so depressed about my ugly gob that I have just drank 3 glasses of wine and I am probably rambling on and on and on................but thankfully I do have somewhere to ramble. My husband, adorable as he is, just doesn't understand. He says he will support me whatever happens but he doesn't want to hear about it everyday and is sick of me moping about quoting research on teeth and implants and the like when I haven't even had first appointment yet! Thankfully I can ramble here.............. Well, it's almost midnight so I guess I should shut up and go to the lovely land of oblivion where when I dream, I have the most beautiful, as someone elseon the board said 'Hollywood smile'.
Chego x

 
Old 04-04-2004, 04:33 PM   #12
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chego, goodluck with what you are going through. I hope that i helped you and that what ever decision you make you are happy with for life.Like i said in the hollywood smile post alot of people are affect by the why there teeth look, even if it's just the color and would do anything to fix. Apperance has lot to do with our lives today. If you don't look a certain way people may not like you or what ever. Just remember not to make this decision lightly. Like i said before it hurts me to hear that some have to have there teeth out and dentures or just want to because they think it's the easy way out. Dentures are not the easy way out. Goodluck and if you have any more question feel free to ask me. I will answer whatever i can to make this process easier for you. Remember take your time and make the one that is best for you. Try not to let money stand in that way of you being happy.

 
Old 04-05-2004, 10:13 AM   #13
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Thanks brwyneyez9. :-)

 
Old 04-05-2004, 11:43 AM   #14
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You are correct that dentures are not the easy way out but for some of us dentures wearers it was the only option we had. I wish I didn't have to have my teeth pulled but I was left with few other options. Yes, I could have gone through the expense of having root canals done on all 24 teeth and having crowns placed and bridge made to the tune of $50,000 but as both of my regular dentists told me as well as the oral surgeon I would have been in exactly the same situation in five years and $50,000 poorer. I too am looking in implants for my lowers. I have been told by my dentist and the oral surgeon that you have to wait at least six months after the extractions before they can place the posts. My dentist has informed me that I can use my existing lower plate as a temporary while the posts heal.

 
Old 04-05-2004, 04:56 PM   #15
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Yes unforuntely some people just have to have their teeth out. The sad thing is that going to the dentist and homecare just isn't stressed enough by parents or grandparents. Depending on your age there was a time that that sorte of thing just wasn't important. I am sorry you had to loose your teeth. I have known the specialist around my areas depending on the case sometimes likes to take out the teeth and then place the post rigth then and there. This is bases case by case. Goodluck with that. I think u will be much happier with the implants diffently with the lower.

 
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