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Old 12-16-2004, 06:44 PM   #1
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Hi all,

As a person who has significantly recovered, after my mercury-silver dental amalgams were replaced with less toxic ones, I'd like you all to know that there are alternatives. We don't have to have mercury fillings any more.

Some may wonder why all health professionals do not support this. The reason I believe is because people are slow to change. But there are many many health professionals that do not want mercury in the mouth. Try reading about holistic dentists, biological dentists, and mercury-free dentists. You can also read about H.R. 1680. I found one very interesting article by Sandy Duffy. You can check many articles written by her...some very fascinating information by someone who is an attorney.

I know that this can be controversial and frustrating to some people. It's frustrating to me, because of my first-hand experience with this pain and suffering...and I find so many people not studying this more. I'm so grateful to have my health back. I invite you all to learn more and to be patient. I work many long hours like a lot of you, and often I'm not able to answer all your questions, but I'll do the best that I can. I try to be helpful.

Please review and support mercury-free dentistry. At least, please keep an open mind. We dental consumers need better choices. Thanks.

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Old 12-25-2004, 09:37 AM   #2
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Hi all,

A Very Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

I finally got some time to write about this...this is something that takes time to respond to properly.

Thank you toothfairy for your contribution. I appreciate your time to research this, from the ADA's perspective.

Permit me to address some of the ADA's statements. First, the ADA has only selected a few groups, experts or studies to back up these. This by no means represents the studies, evidence, or opinions of the entire scientific community. If it did, then there would be no controversy. We would all agree. However, we do not....

First of all, mercury in dental amalgams has never been proven safe. To my knowledge the ADA has never subjected these amalgams to time-tested rigourous studies, proving the safety of dental amalgams.

Second, it's a myth to say that mercury from these amalgams does not do any harm. Mercury is known to kill cells. That's why mercury is known as being cytotoxic. In the brain mercury exposure causes the formation of neurofibrillary tangles, the presence of amyloid plaques and the creation of tau phosphorylation in susceptible tissues. A toxicity center noted that the class of mercury as 1600 and plutonium as 1900 (according to their scale of measurement). Plutonium at 1900 is considered the worst toxin. This makes mercury as one of the most deadly poisons known to mankind.

Third, let it be known that many dentists still call mercury-silver dental amalgams “silver” fillings, and patients are having mercury placed in their teeth without their knowledge. A law in California was created to prevent this. Other countries and states should hopefully follow with their own laws, so that many dentists and dental personnel will also comply.

Fourth, it's a myth to say only 1 to 3 micrograms leak from each amalgam. The facts are that high-copper mercury-silver dental amalgams emit up to 50 times more mercury. There are too many variations to make such low claims, as the type of amalgam greatly affects the amount of mercury that leaks. After 10 years, studies show some dental amalgams can lose approximately 40 percent of its mercury. A chemist Haley says studies show that people with “silver” fillings have an average of four times the amount of mercury in their blood and/or urine than people who have no fillings or “non-silver” fillings. A research study shows that 43 micrograms of mercury comes off of each square centimeter of amalgam in water every day. This research shows that a person with only three amalgams is absorbing approximately 37 micrograms of mercury every day, since 6 micrograms is excreted (under those conditions without any grinding etc.).

I hope this helps explain some reasons why there continues to be a controversy. What I write is only the tip of the iceberg. It's important to note that...and hopefully I have brought enough attention to this issue, for you all to investigate more thoroughly. These are why I feel mercury-free dentistry will continue to expand...and apparently it is expanding. A lot of people just don't want this toxin, whether someone says it's safe or not.

Has anyone else experienced getting better after their amalgams were removed? From what I've read, thousands of people have had their health significantly improved after their dental amalgams were replaced with less toxic fillings.

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Old 12-25-2004, 12:31 PM   #3
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Rhody, do you know if amalgam is used in caps? All of my caps have some type of metal and don't know what it is.

 
Old 12-25-2004, 07:18 PM   #4
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Hi,

You might want to call your dentist to ask him what materials are used in those caps. There's a wide variety of different types of materials used for dental restoration. Typically, a mercury-metal mixture is used with what a lot of dentists call "silver" fillings, as it's easy to apply as a paste before it hardens.

Also, as I've written before, there's no need to worry or panic about this mercury in dental amalgams for anyone...just be concerned and make informed decisions. Since it was for me a controversial subject (and still is) with opposing opinions, I just decided to have my dental amalgams removed for cosmetic purposes about 10 years ago. If I got better that was great, but if I did not improve with my health, then I could be satisfied with a nice set of white teeth. I didn't want any more testing or arguments or questioning looks from doctors any more; I just wanted that mercury out. How could I explain to them how I felt, with the increased headaches and muscle pains?

It had to be for me a serious undertaking. Afterall, who would volunteer to go to the dentist for the replacement of eight fillings? There were lots of dental visits, lots of shots of "nummy juice" (as my dentist would say) and lots of drilling in about a three month period. Care was done to do this right, and it was done quadrant by quadrant, in a two step process.

 
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Re: Mercury Free Dentistry

Rhody,

What do you do when your old-fashioned dentist tells you, "but amalgam is the only filling material that will hold up on a chewing surface." I fought like mad for non-amalgams in replacements and so he did one...and, of course, it didn't hold up (thanks doc, you PROVED your point at my expense.) I am "almost content" to live with the old mercury I have but I REALLY don't want any more.
The thought of a NEW new age dentist scares the bejesus out of me because I know he will want to do more work that I want done. Some of these old big fillings will probably require crowning if they are fiddled with.

What materials are a good strong substitute for amalgam, say on the top surface of a molar? (For some reason, nobody seems to want to talk gold inlays anymore?)

 
Old 12-27-2004, 06:05 AM   #6
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What do you do when your old-fashioned dentist tells you, "but amalgam is the only filling material that will hold up on a chewing surface." I fought like mad for non-amalgams in replacements and so he did one...and, of course, it didn't hold up (thanks doc, you PROVED your point at my expense.) I am "almost content" to live with the old mercury I have but I REALLY don't want any more.
The new composite materials seem to hold up pretty well... but being newer, their typical lifetimes probably aren't known exactly yet. Success with the new materials is really dependent on the dentist's experience and skill. Maybe you need to find one that's done more of them and kept up on new techniques. There are plenty of regular ole general dentists with this kind of expertise. That being said, I don't suggest that people subject their teeth to the trauma of replacing intact and asymptomatic metal fillings.... but for new holes or old fillings that need replacing due to new decay, the new resins are nice.

 
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Lenin,

From what I've read, there are over 100 different types of white fillings. I'm pretty sure that I had porcelain fillings that replaced my dental amalgams. I've had these less toxic fillings now for about 10 years. So far, I've had no problems. I chose that material based on the recommendation of my naturopath, and it was (from what I remember) very durable.

You might want to ask around, to see if porcelain would be good. Some people suggest that porcelain is better than some of the composites, because there is less chance of more exposure to different types of toxins. I really haven't researched this very much, but I think the review of these "new age" fillings, would be important...to make sure that the consumer gets what best fits them. I think Doppler is right; it's so important to get a dentist that's an expert at placing these types of fillings.

 
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Hi all,

I know the issue of not using mercury in dental restoration products or possibly a lot of other products, is not accepted by all lot of people. Mainstream medicine and industry is slow to change, despite all the data coming in about the ill affects of this toxin. And I know that researchers have still lots of things to uncover and discover for us...so I won't argue that. They were slow at accepting that cigarettes were bad for us too. It took them a long time....

Today, I was in a thrift store, looking at some inexpensive used books, and one caught my eye. I had to buy it. It was a "Popular Mechanics" book, dated April 1946. The back cover page said this, "More Doctors Smoke Camels Than Any Other Cigarette!". Below this caption, the following statements were made. "Family physicians, surgeons, diagnosticians, nose and throat specialists, doctors in every branch of medicine...a total of 113,597 doctors...were asked: "What cigarettes do you smoke?" And more of them named Camel as their smoke than any other cigarette! Three independent research groups found this to be a fact."

Understand that when I write this to you, I no way endorse smoking or the use of any brand. I've never smoked, and I wish no one would smoke. But, I want you to see what mainstream medicine thought then over fifty-seven years ago. They must have thought it was safe! How many years did they think it was safe? Hundreds of years? Because something was used for such a long time, did that make it safe?

...just some things to think about.

 
Old 12-28-2004, 03:33 AM   #9
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For durability it goes like this....Gold inlays > porcelain inlays > amalgam fillings > resin fillings. At this point in time amalgams last about 2x-3x longer than composite fillings and gold last about 2x longer than porcelain. With that being said, for small fillings I would use a 'white' filling, and for large fillings gold.

 
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Ok fill me in; how do they make a porcelain inlay. I know that porcelain is a baked enamel on clay product. Obviously, you can't do any baking in the mouth. Are these pre-cast and then cemented in? If so that sounds even pricier than a crown. Or is their some way of making a faux-porcelain of some kind that is squooshed in like an amalgam and hardens in place.

I also recall reading somewhere about "glass resins"...I guess that sounds like fiberglass??. Anyone have an info on the "glass?"

Yesmik,
What does a gold inlay cost these days?

p.s. It's amazing all the info you can get on medical procedures on the web but how few sources of info there are about dental procedures...almost like you are dealing with a weird CULT and codes of secrecy!

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Old 12-28-2004, 06:39 AM   #11
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Hey Lenin, porcelain inlays are indirect fillings meaning that a mold is taken and the final product is cemented in. The price for inlays/onlays(3/4 crowns) is no more than a regular crown.

Glass isonomer fillings are usually used around the gum line for root fillings.

Gold inlays cost no more than a porcelain crown but they last a lifetime sometimes. The biggest problem most people have with gold is the looks but when its on a back tooth, I don't see the big deal. Gold is also more compatible with your gum tissue. One more good thing about it is that gold wears at the same rate as your natural enamel.....when you have a subtance, hard as porcelain on the biting surface of a tooth, the tooth on the top or bottom which comes into contact with the porcelain will wear out very fast...costing you more money.

 
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Thanks yesmik...now to get my stomach screwed on straight to brave a new dentist!

 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:10 PM   #13
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Hi, I had the toxic amalgam fillings (3) removed about 8 months ago. Since then, my health has gotten worse. Has anybody experienced this?? The Dentist supposedly took the normal precautionary measures, but it seemed to go up in my head. The constant brain fog, pressure, eye pain is really ruining my life. Please let me know if anyone out there has had this happen? Just knowing I am not alone, or going crazy, would help. Thanks....

 
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Hi,

I've written about this so many times. Apparently, I had a reaction to anti-mercury components right after I had my amalgams removed (or could it had been from the amalgam removal process?). I thought I was going to die. I was so sleepy, I thought I would not wake up. I had other symptoms as well.

Some articles suggest that the exposure to mercury is quite high, when these mercury fillings are removed. Did your dentist use a dental dam? What type of ventilation was used? Also, what complicates this issue so much, is that each person can have different reactions to mercury (and possibly other toxins) for reasons not known.

Some foods that help remove mercury are those high in vitamin C, such as fresh fruits and vegetables. I used to make large drinks of juices from fresh fruits and vegetables with my Vitamix (a food processor). Have you seen a doctor about this? Also know that a lot of doctors may not understand the reactions of toxins as such. But it could be something else as well. So seeing a doctor is important with any serious illnesses.

Even though we recognize that some doctors may not understand this much (the dental amalgam issue), I always see a doctor, to try and find out out as much information as possible when I'm sick. Then through a process of elimination, I've found help with my herbs and foods. But I'll never take anti-mercury components again. It scared me so much.

 
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Hi, thank you for getting back with me. The dentist did use a dam, but did not use ventilation. What do you mean by that and when you say anti-mercury are you talking about amalgam? I have so many other health issues also, which I have seen Doctors for. I had an eye exam for the pain in the eyes, that was normal, I have had numerous blood test, normal, I began seeing a homeopathic M.D. which after about the 20th colonic, I said "that's enough." Did have the toxicity test done. Mercury was slightly elevated. I had cat scans and a mri, normal, thank goodness. I just can't seem to find any relief. I am a single mother with two children, I cannot work, it is debilatating at times, the strangest symptom is I sleep well at night, 8-10 hours, BUT if I get up 10 minuntes to an hour earlier than normal, I cannot function. The brain fog, head heaviness is too much. The most weirdest symptom is when I sleep a full night and get up the next morning, after about 20 to 30 minutes later, the fog moves in. When I lay back down a few hours later, and if I sleep for even 3-10 minutes, then it alleviates the pressure!!! Any idea why??? Doctors look at me like I'm crazy. Well I'm getting there with all of these problems. I was so healthy up until 2.5 years ago. I moved back to Az. and then got the chronic fatigue and too many other symptoms too numerous to mention. If anybody has any suggestions, please help. Especially if they have any insight as to why after going back to bed in the morning and sleeping for a few minutes, WHY does it alleviate the pressure and I can carry on my day???????? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

 
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