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Old 01-27-2002, 08:47 AM   #1
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Unhappy Loose Teeth, any hope?

Hello,

I have chronic fatigue which has worsened very much over the last few months. I had problems with my gums for years now, had some surgery and scaling years ago. Since I have been sick it is difficult for me to go places and over the last few months my gums have gotten worse, abcesses and now a few teeth are lose. Is there anything I can do to help them? I know my immune system is low and I have lost weight, I try to take vitamins and eat well but now I have trouble chewing. Ester C is what I am starting but not sure if that is the best form? I also started irrigating with the Vitapik, it gets down into the pockets and you can put salt water or hydrogen peroxide in them. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I with you all health and happiness.

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Hi,

I had loose teeth, gum disease, and a host of other problems that are similar to fibromyalgia. I have written about this many times.

I linked all of this about 8 years ago to my mercury-silver dental amalgams, and now run almost 20 miles a week, after being told by a doctor to not run more than a hundred yards in 1978.

It's a long story which spans decades for me. There are a lot of non-believers out there concerning this, however we must recognize that we are all individuals, and each case should be weighed separately. I don't expect everyone to have what I had, or to react exactly the way my body did to these amalgams, but I can say what has happened to me.

You may want to investigate this for yourself, as well. If you want to know more, please let me know.

My teeth were so loose, before I had the mercury-silver dental amalgams removed and replaced by white fillings that I thought I could pull them out with my hands. Today, I have minimal gum problems and all my teeth are tight. That, for me, was the quickest and most noticeable affect that I had, when my amalgams were replaced.

 
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For me there is no false hope. My teeth are very tight in my mouth after having my mercury-silver dental amalgams removed and replaced with white fillings. I do not know the precise scientific reason why. This is what I have observed.

If anyone has any questions about this, I'd be glad to elaborate. My story spans decades, until I linked my health problems to eight mercury-silver dental amalgams. The pain and suffering I had with this, was enormous.

If anyone else out there, has gotten better, after having their dental amalgams replaced with non-toxic ones, I'd like to hear from you too. Thanks.

 
Old 01-29-2002, 07:07 PM   #4
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Also, from what I have read, the reason that patients who are allergic to mercury-silver dental amalgams do not get well right after removal, is because only one source of the toxins have been eliminated. Now, you have to remove the mercury that has been accumulating in your tissues for years. You need to see a medical specialist to help you, if you suspect that you have this problem.

I did not get immediately well, after my mercury-silver dental amalgams were removed, but I noticed that one of the first and greatest noticeable improvements was the tightening of the teeth.

 
Old 01-29-2002, 07:36 PM   #5
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Rhody,
read my post under sick from root canal. I am wondering if the filler from the root canal could be causing the blocked filling in my nasal passages and the sticky feeling. THere was a perforation in the root of the tooth during the root canal and the filler is leaking out. Although I have seen some improvements, the sinus issues continue to bother me. DO you know anything about this. By the way I read in a herbal book that a dental rinse of golden seal and mryh can tighten your teeth and kill the bacteria that causes gum disease. Gum disease is a major cause of loose teeth. You can get these herbal extracts at whole foods in major cities and smaller health food stores. It also said that some people has good luck with rinsing their mouth with collodial silver. I do believe that mercury in the mouth is a major contributer to ill health. THanks for all your previous posts.

 
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loula,

It's hard to say whether the filler from the root canal is causing you problems. I mostly can relate to problems with dental amalgams from personal experience. Was your filler that latex material?

All I know, for myself, is that I'm very careful to stay far away from any toxic materials, such as mercury. Mercury is extremely toxic, even in the very smallest amounts, especially when it is methylated.

I have used herbs for years, since I was sick for such a very long time. It wasn't until I had the mercury-silver dental amalgams replaced with white fillings that I got better enough that I didn't need to use herbs as much.

The bulk herbs that I used were licorice, damiana, queen of the meadow, marshmallow root, and ginger. There were other herbs that I took as well, that I can't remember. I made large batches of this herbal tea and consumed a lot of it when I was very ill. Today, I only take a small amount of herbs. I also changed my diet to a healthy one. I tried everything that I could for years and years until I linked all of my chronic illnesses to my dental amalgams.

When I had those dental amalgams, with my loose teeth, I had gum disease. This disease usually started at the roof of my mouth, and then spread throughout my gums like "wildfire". The gums got very red and imflammed. To cure myself of this malady, I used to gargle a lot with salt water solution, and then rinse my mouth with anti-septic solution. Sometimes, I would have to do this many times a day, for days at a time.

Now, being healthy, and free from mercury-silver dental amalgams, I almost never do that anymore. I probably should rinse my mouth with a mild salt water solution once in a while, although, because it seems to clean up everything so well.

I hope that you can solve the problems that you are having with your root canal filler. It seems that there are so many things that we have to be concerned with, when it comes to dental restoration materials. A lot of us can have sensitivities to various components and react differently to them. With latex materials, for example, some people don't have any problems with it, for other people it can be very dangerous.

 
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Bethany, you need to see a periodontist. No doubt about that. The longer you wait the worse it will become. Tooth loss is inevitable if you don't. Explain your medical problems to the doctor so they can work those factors into a treatment plan. Please don't wait.

 
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Originally posted by rhody:
Hi,

I had loose teeth, gum disease, and a host of other problems that are similar to fibromyalgia. I have written about this many times.

I linked all of this about 8 years ago to my mercury-silver dental amalgams, and now run almost 20 miles a week, after being told by a doctor to not run more than a hundred yards in 1978.

It's a long story which spans decades for me. There are a lot of non-believers out there concerning this, however we must recognize that we are all individuals, and each case should be weighed separately. I don't expect everyone to have what I had, or to react exactly the way my body did to these amalgams, but I can say what has happened to me.

You may want to investigate this for yourself, as well. If you want to know more, please let me know.

My teeth were so loose, before I had the mercury-silver dental amalgams removed and replaced by white fillings that I thought I could pull them out with my hands. Today, I have minimal gum problems and all my teeth are tight. That, for me, was the quickest and most noticeable affect that I had, when my amalgams were replaced.

 
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Rhody, I understand that anything is possible. There are people who may have certain metal allergies. It is great that you improved so well from your treatment; however, the majority of the population do not have metal allergies and get along fine with their fillings. Why not reccomend a proper cleaning, evaluation, and possible referral to a periodontist first? To not try that first is very negligent. Replacing amalgam fillings with composite fillings can be very expensive. Composite fillings can be more sensitive too. Lastly, if the teeth have lost too much bone support there is no use replacing a filling. Of course, only a periodontist or dentist can tell if the tooth is worth restoring. I have seen people spend alot of money to replace their fillings in hopes of curing a disease only to be greatly disappointed. Telling your story is good, but can be instilling false hope in some. Reccomend the basics first cleaning, periocharting, and exam first.

 
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Here's what I wrote.

"I don't expect everyone to have what I had, or to react exactly the way my body did to these amalgams, but I can say what has happened to me."

Please don't read into it more than that. Thanks.

 
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I was not reading more into what you have stated, you just did not state the importance of proper dental hygiene (cleanings and exams). You seem to want to blame only amalgams. Teeth can loosen from a host of other problems that a cleaning and proper dental care can take care of. Why not reccomend those first? From there a person can eliminate the problems step by step and determine a possible metal allergy only after the scientifically proven methods were tried and failed?

 
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Rhody, why not post your experience on the message board rather than reply it. That way people who have exhausted the scientifically proven methods first can explore your experience next.


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lvnmyboys,

Welcome to our group. Peridontal care was mentioned, so that I didn't have to repeat it. Sorry, if you felt I should mention everything about dental care. You certainly can ask me a question or two, before making assumptions.

Please be mindful that we are here to offer our opinions and support, not to argue repeatedly or attack other members. Thanks.

 
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lvnmyboys,

I have posted this separately many times about my experiences. You can see how long that I've been here, and how many times that I have written. It impacted a large part of my life, and influenced so much of my decisions concerning healthcare.

If you would like to know more about it, please let me know. Thanks.

 
Old 03-08-2002, 12:13 PM   #15
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Rhody, sorry about the attack. I guess I feel as passionatly about my beliefs as you do about yours. This has fueled my desire to continue school and work towards a degree in the dental field.
Thanks!

 
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