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Old 07-18-2002, 01:54 PM   #1
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So I went to the prosthodontists yesterday(I have a second opinion tomorrow).
I know many of you have heard my story of the bad time I've had with (9)air abrasion tooth shaving and microfillings gone awry.

The prosthodontist told me that my molars are not "normal" in that they are "too short" and don't touch my top molars. In other words they don't fit right together. THus all the bite problems, tooth shifting weak bite etc;

I know many of you have mocked me and wondered how fillings could cause so much damage well I'll explain:

The air abrasion micro decay removal process operates(before the early decay creates a hole in your tooth) by putting a hole in your tooth and removing a chunk of the enamel/dentin just to get at the microdecay. The filling that is put into the tooth not only fills the new hole but the surface of the tooth(creating an occlusal imbalance so to speak if not done correctly).

Now never in my wildest nightmares did I know that this was done to my teeth -- bonding is usually best done on the front teeth(like if you have a chip). The back chewing molars don't withstand the pressure as well.

SO two of the bottom molars need "more bonding" material put on them at a cost of $450.00 per filling not to mention the prosthodontist fee for the bite adjustment as needed -- TOTAL COST --- $2000.00. Of course I'm maxed out on my dental insurance.

So the end is that I am enslaved to molar maintenance for the rest of my life if I want to have a regular bite. Now I ask why was this even done??? Molars could have survived with just a little brown on them.
It was done to keep me a paying victim of a quack dental system till my dying days(unless I get them pulled before -- like you said Deb47). I won't be able to afford maintenance on them.

I hope someone is spared the evils of the air abrasion molar microfilling experience I have gone through.

 
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Old 07-18-2002, 03:10 PM   #2
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Antoni,

Sorry to hear about the bad experience. I hope this dentist can do a good job of fixing your teeth. I guess I'm so lucky to have had a good dentist when he converted my mercury-silver dental amalgams to white fillings.

I have been following your stories. It sounds like so much like a nightmare.

Again, I hope everything can be repaired and you feel better.

 
Old 07-18-2002, 04:29 PM   #3
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Antoni, I can relate some what, I had a silver filling replaced with a white one and it made my bite a little off and I went back to dentist and he took more off it and really felt like too much cause other teeth were bumping that usually didn't so I went to another dentist to get my bite checked out and he adjusted my bite on oposite side to match and cost me $175.00 just for that. It still got on my nerves some but finally got use to it.

One worse than that was one time about 20 years ago I went to dentist to have wisdom tooth extracted and wound up in the ER with an oral surgeon finishing the job. I called the Dental Board to complain about the dentist and found out he was just a student with no license and should not of even been working on me with out supervision. So now when I walk in an office I look for their license and check to see if they even graduated from dental school.

I was at the dentist office today with an on going problem with a tooth with 3 root canals done to it in the last 18 months and now they say go see a peridontist for a possible extraction and implant.

I am the only one in my family with real teeth and always thought I was the smart one but now beginning to think my family were smarter to extract every problem tooth and go false.

Good Luck to you, I really do feel for you and understand the mental stress that dentist and dental problems cause.

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Old 07-18-2002, 10:25 PM   #4
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Hi, Antoni. I know you probably hate me; but after reading your post it made me wonder if you shouldn't instead go for crowns on those molars. This will heighten the teeth; and hopefully your bite can be corrected this way. Wouldn't this be better than to pay such a high fee for just building up the teeth? But, if the building up is said to last for years and years, that's another matter. I am very familiar with the bite being wrong. I had a bridge put on today...my dentist told me to wait till Monday; if it still doesn't feel right, to come back, and he'll adjust the bite. My bite definately is off; but not by a lot. I probably could live with the way it is, now. Usually, when I would get a crown put on, the dentist would adjust the bite then and there for me...but this time, I was told I had to wait. I really AM sorry you are having problems. It doesn't make me happy to see anyone suffer with their teeth. I should not have jumped on you like that. Obviously, you were having problems, or you wouldn't have posted so much about it.
If nothing else, you put out a warning, not to get that new air abrasion treatment for cavities. I apoligise for my rudeness....these boards are a place we can "vent"; and I sure have done my share of that in the past! Good luck to you...Deb47

 
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Thanks Deb,
Hows your bite with the bridge????

No actually when I read your previous post I laughed and laughed -- it cheers me up. When I start thinking about the teeth too much I think what is the alternative just get them pulled. It would make life more livable than being molar obsessessed.

It will cost quite a bit but I am hoping this will last ten years. The prosthodontist said if they wear out in a few years there's other materials like porcelain that will last longer at that point I will try some different material. So it's not the end of the world.

Also, do to my anger I am going after the dentist who did the procedure -- although I'm sure he will lie or ignore me, but I feel he's the one who should have to pay. I mean I have to get all this work done and it's just a little over a year???? I have contacted the office about getting some sort of refund -- but it's in my dreams!!!But I feel better making a stink about it...

I'll post if the prosthodontist really do a good job in restoring the bite -- hopefully it won't backfire and be a scam for the money. But I mean whenever someone has multiple crowns or bridges, whatever done the bite is crucial and that' what they are experts at.



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Old 07-25-2002, 08:11 AM   #6
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Antoni,

I tried to reply earlier to this post, but was unable to due to error messages. Very frustrating. I, too, feel as though my problems started with poor dental technique and now I'm a victim for the rest of the life of my teeth. It's all about preservation and longevity, but it still feels like I'm going to be involved in, as you say, molar maintenance for the rest of my life. I have also become one of the tooth-obsessesed lately, and it's a difficult position to be in--especially when everyone around you seems to have trouble-free (or relative to your teeth) teeth.

I'm glad you went to the prosthodontists, it's making me wonder if I ought to seek a consult with one myself due to some ongoing issues with dual crowns opposing each other.

I hope this all works out soon (and well) for you.

Sim

 
Old 07-27-2002, 02:29 PM   #7
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Hey Sim,

Thanks for replying. I know it's awful being tooth obsessed. I never was like this before now it's like all these negative dental changes are with me 24/7.
I swear it's affected my whole life in like I am more depressed and feel that something really changed on me for the worse. I found another posting on the internet that had the same exact thing happen as me and he didn't know what was going on with the jaw discomfort and he had 10 teeth done. It was like from a year ago and there's no way to contact him.. He said he was suicidal from the strange discomfort. I think with this air abrasion dentistry unfortunately not alot of people have had it done and the public is not aware of it's negative consequences yet. I hope it becomes illegal one day.

The one prosthodontist said that once you have multiple work done on teeth the teeth will always be in flux and every couple of months I will be aware of the change. IT stinks.

All is not lost if worse comes to worse I may look into getting gold inlays and have it done once and for all and not have to go in for alot of maintenance with lying money grubbing quacks. I have seen enough dentists to last a lifetime. With you if it is just 2 teeth maybe it won't be so hard to fix(as in my case multiple teeth). But prosthodontists are bite specialist and they will tell you stuff general dentists can't.

I have an appointment with the prosthodontist to go over all my teeth and which need to be redone on Thursday. I am apprehensive about if it will really work. BUt I figure I will have to pay to get the damage corrected.

Even when people lose teeth and having nature destroy the teeth is different than having trauma done through bad dental procedures. That's why I think our situation may be worse thatn just being born with bad teeth.

 
Old 07-30-2002, 08:44 AM   #8
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Hi Antoni, I just wanted to tell you that I went to the orthodontist and they have decided to do a buildup on the nightguard that I am already wearing. I go back to tommorrow to have the work done. I am so frustrated by the whole situation.

I have to say that I can understand about you being tooth obsessed. I have been that way too for the last year. I just want my teeth to close together properly the way they used to. I just want the jaw aches and headaches to go away. They are starting to get alot worse and starting to interfere with my life.

I do have a list of questions for the orthodontist tommorow. Up until now I have just always gave my complaints to my dentist or endodontist and then listened to what they said was wrong. Now I have some questions of my own and I have done more research and will be asking about the possibility of seeing an prosthodontist to have my bite built back up maybe. (if it's possible)

Well, thanks for listening. It helps to have a support system. Hope everything goes okay for you at the prosthodontist. Keep us posted. Michelle

 
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