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Old 07-29-2006, 04:00 PM   #1
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TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

4 years ago I had my last child. The entire pg I had and increase of saliva and had to spit all the time. By the time I had my son I started tongue thrusting and forgot how to swallow even when my saliva came back to normal.

I grind my teeth at night, my face hurts all the time from the thrusting and grinding and I can't swallow normal anymore.

I'm seeing an oral and maxillofacial(sp?) specialist in 2 weeks to discuss all of this. I realize I will likely need all sorts of help, but can the TMJ specialist help me with this or am I going to have to end up going to my dentist or orthodontist for treatment? My regular insurance covers the TMJ specialist, but my dental insrance is for dentist and orthodontist. I want to be treated as if this is a medical problem, not a dnetal problem. So, far my PCP thinks this is a very bad medical problem and that the only person I should be seeing is a Oral TMJ specialist. I'm glad she has that opinion because I'm hoping that somehow my medical insurance will cover all of my oral problems.

My oral problems have gotten so worse there is pressure in the bridge of ny nose and in my entire face. I experience major dizziness, jaw pain, ear pain, and pain everywhere else in my face. It has gotten out of hand.

Does anyone know if a TMJ doctor will be able to treat all of this and can they also do braces for medical issues, I do not want to have to use dental insurance as I will be having to pay our of pocket for any dental care with them. At least with my medical insurance it is nothing but copays of $30.00.

So, if anyone can give me opinions or help I'd appreciate it. My poor face has been through so much if I don't do something about it now it will get worse and I will be in bad shape!

 
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:02 PM   #2
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Re: TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

i have had cronic dry mouth and tmj for the las 3 years. I have been to naturalists, acutupurists,oral drs etc with no avail. Im taking evoxac which helps for just a couple of hours and is extremely expensive. I chew trident all day long.

I go through stages of dry mouth; cotton mouth and times when its like having gliceryin or dry bubbles.

Has anyone had this problem and what if anything has helped.

im going nuts

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Old 06-05-2008, 09:53 PM   #3
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Re: TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

Yes - the tmj dentist or dr will be able to treat all your symptoms and most will be covered by medical unless it involves actual dental work such as building teeth up or orthodontia to permanently reposition the teeth. There is a tmj forum on this board if you need more info or support regarding tmj.

For dry mouth - hopefully you have been to your regular medical dr and ruled out any medical conditions or illnesses that can cause it such as diabetes. Certain prescription meds can also cause it as can smoking. Have you tried using Biotene dental products - they make a tooth paste, oral rinse and gum that helps with the dry mouth - I used it when I had temp crowns in place which had a rough texture to them and made my mouth quite dry and irritated.

 
Old 06-05-2008, 10:03 PM   #4
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Re: TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

Thelma- Louise, are the Biotene dental products over-the-counter and can I find them at places like Wal-Mart, Longs, or Walgreens? I've been wearing temporary crowns and porcelain crowns with temporary cement for more than seven months and had no idea this could be causing my dry mouth. Thank you.

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Old 06-08-2008, 02:10 PM   #5
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Re: TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

Yes - they are sold OTC where other retail dental products are sold. It has a bit of an odd tase at first but once you get used to it its really not too bad and I found I did look forward to using it since it did help ease the dryness.

Temp material for crowns or bridges is usually a more porous material than the procelain and/or other durable materials used for perms - I wore my temps long term as well (12-16 months) while I waited for implants to heal and found that asking my dentist to remove them and professionally clean and polish them every 2-3 months helped a bit with the dry mouth as well as the staining and yellowing issue I had with them.

 
Old 08-04-2008, 08:15 AM   #6
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Re: TMJ, Tongue thrusting, dry mouth

I continue to look for soluition to my problem. I am now going to a tmj specialist that uses electrode therapy, then deep ultrasound therapy concluding with facial massage. In addition I see a Psycologyst that is teaching me how to relax not only the jaw but the body by using bio feedback. I will let you know how it goes

 
Old 08-07-2008, 07:29 AM   #7
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It is my third session with the new tmj therapist. It seems to be helping but what I feel is helping the most is the excercises to take away the stress from the jaw. What they make me do is gently place my tounge against my front two teeth, loosen the jaw, teeth should not touch and paractice this as much as you can. What helps to practice are the reminders placed all over my house and office. Just some blue decals, every time I see one to remind me to do the exercize. As time goes one you start doing it automatically when you feel any kind of stress in the jaw. The idea is to teach you body that there is an alterative to clenching. With time I hope this becomes the norrm. The ultrasound deep therapy, electrodes and massage also help.

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