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Old 05-03-2007, 02:29 AM   #1
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dentures!!! immediates??? permanent??? what's the difference???

Hello To All,


I don't understand what people mean when they refer to their immediates, and then their permanents.

Did they have two separate dentures made? Or were their immediates relined?

My dentist made an impression for my lowers before I had my last 5 teeth removed.

My new lower denture went home with me after my extractions were completed.

I was told that in six months I would return for a reline.

Five months later, my lower denture, fractured. How the fracture occurred, I can't quite remember. At any rate, I called the dentist, made an appointment for early the next morning, and had my repaired, and supposedly reline, lower denture back that afternoon.

Now I have felt, and told my dentist, from the very beginning, that I thought that the denture was way too big!

If no adhesive is used all I have to do is open my mouth to take a bite of anything and the denture almost pops out of my mouth. If I were to cough ... it could quite possibility fly across the room.

Whenever I eat anything, adhesive, no adhesive, doesn't matter, food accumulates between the denture gum and my cheek! Like I am a chipmunk.

My tongue is too short to reach this accumulation of food, and unless I want to excuse myself several times during a meal, I have to stick my finger in my mouth to remove the debris.

Does everyone go through this or could the denture be too wide?

I only way this denture is even tolerable is with the use of a product called "Cushion Grip" a thermoplastic denture adhesive, (distributed by Schering-Plough HealthCare Products).

I have, on occasion gotten a really good fit with this product, but if I want to eat in public, 99% of the time I still need a traditional denture adhesive, also.

I have called my dentist to tell them this thing is too big, but all I get is . . .
it has already been relined, nothing else we can do.

Was the impression taken too early? Should I have had an immediate denture, later another impression, then the permanent denture?

Do I have any recourse? Can I demand anything? Do I have to get implants to make it a snap-on denture? If so it will still be too wide!!! Or is the width thing something everyone has to live with?

HELP! HELP! HELP!
kurango

 
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:42 AM   #2
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Re: dentures!!! immediates??? permanent??? what's the difference???

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Hello To All,


I don't understand what people mean when they refer to their immediates, and then their permanents.

Did they have two separate dentures made? Or were their immediates relined?

My dentist made an impression for my lowers before I had my last 5 teeth removed.

My new lower denture went home with me after my extractions were completed.

I was told that in six months I would return for a reline.

Five months later, my lower denture, fractured. How the fracture occurred, I can't quite remember. At any rate, I called the dentist, made an appointment for early the next morning, and had my repaired, and supposedly reline, lower denture back that afternoon.

Now I have felt, and told my dentist, from the very beginning, that I thought that the denture was way too big!

If no adhesive is used all I have to do is open my mouth to take a bite of anything and the denture almost pops out of my mouth. If I were to cough ... it could quite possibility fly across the room.

Whenever I eat anything, adhesive, no adhesive, doesn't matter, food accumulates between the denture gum and my cheek! Like I am a chipmunk.

My tongue is too short to reach this accumulation of food, and unless I want to excuse myself several times during a meal, I have to stick my finger in my mouth to remove the debris.

Does everyone go through this or could the denture be too wide?

I only way this denture is even tolerable is with the use of a product called "Cushion Grip" a thermoplastic denture adhesive, (distributed by Schering-Plough HealthCare Products).

I have, on occasion gotten a really good fit with this product, but if I want to eat in public, 99% of the time I still need a traditional denture adhesive, also.

I have called my dentist to tell them this thing is too big, but all I get is . . .
it has already been relined, nothing else we can do.

Was the impression taken too early? Should I have had an immediate denture, later another impression, then the permanent denture?

Do I have any recourse? Can I demand anything? Do I have to get implants to make it a snap-on denture? If so it will still be too wide!!! Or is the width thing something everyone has to live with?

HELP! HELP! HELP!
kurango
Hi Kurango,

Ask the dentist what kind of reline did he/she use on you? I understand there are 2 kinds of relines, SOFT/HARD. tHE SOFT RELINE IS CONSIDERED TEMPORARY, while the "hard" reLINE is more lasting!!! iF YOUR DENTIST INSTALLED YOUR LOWER PLATES immediately after extraction, those are called "immediates."....I'll be going thru the same process too very soon...Each dentist has different ways of treatments as you know...According to what my dentist told me, my immediates will be worn till my gums are totally healed, 9-12 months, and another denture will then be fabricated after this healing period......I'm sure something can be done about your lowers...it may have to either be rebased, HARD reline, and or an entirely a new set made. If you're that unhappy with them, I'd definitely discuss your options, with him, or another dentist.....Vergie

 
Old 05-06-2007, 07:37 AM   #3
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Re: dentures!!! immediates??? permanent??? what's the difference???

Kurango, Im not sure if youre reading up on your replies any longer since this is an older thread but I know exactly what youre going through. I have a full upper and lower denture. I got my last 6 lower teeth pulled about 2 years ago and walked out with a lower immediate denture. I know that dentists dont like pulling the bottom teeth because its always a struggle for them to get a good fit with a denture. The top denture is usally a breeze. I went the past 5 years going through relining them and using adhesive too. I know what its like to get food under them and have to cover your mouth in public to remove the food from under the denture. And yes, when I yawn by teeth will pop up. Two months ago a dentist sent me to a Prosodontist because of my ill fitting lower denture. I was told that I needed a surgery on my lower ridge because it is way to high. He said this was contributing to my problem as to why they wont fit good. I guess what I am saying here that maybe get a second opinion with a specialist like a Prothsodontist or a Cosmetic Dentist who specializes in fitting dentures properly. Also you can expect to lose bone density in your gums throughout the years. You will need to get relines about every two years or a new denture, which ever is best for you. You also might want to consider implants on your lower gums someday. I am saving for this procedure for the near future. This will eliminate much suffering and discomfort. Hope this helps.

 
Old 05-08-2007, 11:36 AM   #4
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Re: dentures!!! immediates??? permanent??? what's the difference???

Kurango, you don't say whether you also have an upper denture! If you are still wearing the original lower they gave you when they pulled your teeth and more than a year has gone by it is probably time to have another denture made. Lowers can be troublesome so it is very important to have that denture fitting as well as it possibly can. It sounds like they did half the job and are now blaming the wearer for the problems. Many people just accept a poor fit because the penalty for dental problems is wearing dentures. It might be time to seek a second opinion.

 
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