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Old 08-26-2007, 02:30 AM   #1
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Valplast partial wearers! I need feedback quick!

In my ongoing saga of dental woe I am now to be the proud recipient of a removeable partial. My prosthodontist recommends I shell out $12,860 to get a gold metal and resin partial ( allergic to metal ) and 7 crowns. .....rrrright..... I'm going in monday to start getting gooped up and need some answers quick!!! I am just coming out of a year of agony from the replacement of a 3 piece bridge with two root canals, both failed, found out I had a crack in one tooth's root the whole time after fifty bazillion x-rays were taken long before shelling out for the apico's duh duh etc. etc. etc. SO! I am looking in to Valplast. The Prostho didn't even breathe a word about these, could it be the $$$? I will be pulling 9 and 11 a canine and front with the space between long gone. I wanted to crown two teeth on either side and make a 3 space bridge with 4 crowns supporting it, have healthy teeth there. He nixed it. Said my bite was only hitting in three spots in my mouth and this is in turn was putting huge stress on my front teeth area...hence the need to "fix" my bite with crowns. He wants to make the notched fit type resin partial to not show the wires in front and I am SOOOOO paranoid about ANY drilling on any teeth, I am paralyzed as to what to do. If any valplast users out there could speak up and say, hey, luv em, hate em, this is what to expect or not, I would really appreciate it. I am not excited about a heavy gold partial, nor clips on to the back molars to "support the weight" of it. If my own Prostho is saying he wouldn't want to wear a partial....geez...I've read valplast is good for people with allergies. I am to many metals, dyes, latex. Also, can anyone tell me what's up with every dang dentist I've ever been to having you clack your teeth together while LAYING BACK in the chair to check your bite???? I am getting so frustrated with this as I have a crowned molar that I know is high, had it put on last year, it is buggin me, and when I am at an angle my teeth do not touch the same as when I am sitting up. The crown is hitting first thing in my mouth while sitting up but even the prostho says I'm "not even hitting it" while lsying back. Impossible. I mean, duh, I'm chewing on it for cryin out loud, it is taking a load. We don't chew reclining or live most of our life reclining so why can't they just check our bite in exactly the position we would be chewing? Mt. Peony, are you still out there?? Let's update!

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:59 AM   #2
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Re: Valplast partial wearers! I need feedback quick!

I will be getting Valplast dentures, but not soon enough to really help you. Hopefully the bottom will come in this week, but I must wait three months for the top one as I have just had a series of extractions. After wearing a normal bottom partial for about three years, I am really looking forward to this new one. The old one felt like I had concrete sitting in the bottom of my mouth and tended to stress out my entire jaw. My new dentist let me hold the Valplast ones - you can twist them, bend them, etc., so unlike the partial I had before. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they work and feel good. As for the cost - mine are $1600 for the top and $1600 for the bottom - about three teeth on each side. Yes, they are more expensive, but I am hoping they are worth it. A problem with them is that they can not be added to and material can not be added to them, like if they needed to be built up on one side. However, I am willing to take those risks for a more comfortable feel. I hope this helps you a little bit.

I am sorry for all of your dental woes. I have been going through a great deal myself, in fact every root canal I ever had done has now left my body - that includes root canals and apico's. Wow, the painm, the time, and the money I have spent over the years just to have them all pulled is pretty discouraging. So, I do understand. You don't need to make a hasty decision especially if you are not in pain. You are always free to get another opinion before beginning such massive work. A bridge requires root canals done on the anchoring teeth and crowns. This works for some people, like my husband, but for someone like me who has such difficulty with root canals I am so glad I never had that done.

Let us know what you decide, and I am so sorry and so sympathize. Pain is not fun and the decisions are difficult.

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Old 08-26-2007, 09:24 AM   #3
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Re: Valplast partial wearers! I need feedback quick!

Although I have never worn partials I have had anterior bridges supported by implants. My first set of bridges were light and thin and felt comfortable just like my own teeth. When I chipped them and got a replacement by another dentist he insisted we go to a more sturdy bridge - they were twices as heavy and not at all comfortable and despite him saying I would get used to this horrible bulky thing he put in my mouth - I developed muscle fatigue that led to tmj problems. Do not be talked into something that you know is not right for you. Sometimes dentist forget that big and stronger may add to the longevity of what they are making but may not be right for individual muscle function and facial structures.

With regards to bite adjsutments, since I have been to many specialists for my tmj and am having the same problem as you with regards to the adjustments being done while lying down - I was told by one dr that there are mainly 2 or 3 bite patterns - those that bite in the front only and their back teeth do not touch, those that bite on mainly on their central teeth and those that mainly bite on their central and back teeth. The bite adjustments done lying down generally only work with someone who mainly bites on their front teeth only. I have the same problem of things feeling enitrely different when standing vs lying down.

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Old 08-26-2007, 11:41 AM   #4
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Thanks Glowing 4, please keep me up to date on what you do. Have you looked in to thermoflex? I'm going to delay my decision until I lokk into all of this!!!

oh there you are Thelma-Louise! Thanks for writing me! Yeah, I'm busy looking at thermoflex on-line too. Don't know if it is better/worse than valplast. I am just so dang confused but know now for sure I will not be paying even the reduced $$ for just the gold partial. I couldn't handle my retainer after I got my braces off, so how am I going to handle a big wad of gold in my mouth? Yes, the bite thing. I am so at the end of my rope, SO at the end of my rope about this. I just posted an ad on craig'slist looking for a referral to dentist who actually LISTENS and doesn't have their head up their you know what. I have had two previous crowns on that molar and EVERY one of them, the dentist had to file it down on the outside edge, EXACTLY where it is banging now. Do you think I can get my now ex-dentist to do it??? Of course not, he shaved off some of my REAL tooth on the molar ABOVE.ARGGGGGHHH!!!!!! Which did nothing to the bottom one and on and on and on we go. I talked to my sister and she says she just sits up in the chair and says she prefers to sit up as she can't see out her glasses or some excuse and refuses to lean back. I mean what is it that they do this to everyone??? Can we scream it out to the world of dentists? As i always say, is it just that I am so smart, or is it that the rest of world is just so stupid???? Whew, sorry for the rant !!

 
Old 08-26-2007, 05:50 PM   #5
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Re: Valplast partial wearers! I need feedback quick!

I loved every minute of your rant - couldn't have said it any better.

 
Old 08-26-2007, 06:09 PM   #6
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Talking Re: Valplast partial wearers! I need feedback quick!

Hey any time Thelma-Louise! I should probably moonlight as a professional ranter, you know, go out and kick butt for all those people too tired out to do anything about it....it seems us message board users just keep going down these roads until we hit a roadblock, paying all the way of course, and then we have to turn right around and spend hours days weeks whatever trying to find the next "great dentist" etc., that is capable of fixing us. You want irony??? Of the three craigslist replies, guess what, one was for the guy I have right now! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Is there any hope out there? I'm tired of having to spoonfeed all these male egos, careful not to step on toes, say the wrong thing the wrong way, I mean the mental contortions one has to go through just to get a simple REQUEST for perhaps a little more attention or focus on one area you are having problems/pAIN/something not quite right, etc.,is enormous and exhausting. Why doesn't someone open up a message board as an open letter to all these professionals as a heartfelt attempt at communication so we can all improve our lives?! Oh, right, I forgot, um...one of the problems is they don't listen.....I'd better make sure I get that special resin material that doesn't react with alcohol because after all of this is finally over and done I am going to need a few stiff drinks!!!!! My finnish ancestors went the same route. I can remember my great aunties bitching about how the doctors wouldn't listen to them back in the day when there were only male doctors, and they'd get their vodka bottles smuggled in to the hospital if they had to, just to cope with the sheer idiocy of it all I am certain. God help us all. How's that for a postive yet toxic post? Ahahahahha gotta laugh. Cheers!

 
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