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Old 06-09-2008, 06:18 AM   #16
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Re: continual aching teeth

hi sue...I really hope you can find someone who can find the cause of your pain soon! How frustrating that must be. I've noticed that different specialists don't always agree on what the others prescribe or suggest...sigh. What tablets were you taking? Did you find that taking them helped at all? What kind of soreness do you have in your tongue?

I went to see a neurologist in March who also was a nice enough guy...he had me take my jeans off and walk on my heels at one point...slightly embarassing and I wondered what the heck that had to do with my 'paralyzed' face! My oral surgeon's face popped into my mind at that point...I was 'thanking' him for putting me in this position..grrr...lol. As you can see, I haven't quite forgiven him yet! Time will heal that as well, I guess.

Have you thought about looking around for a new dental specialist? How many have you seen so far?

 
Old 06-12-2008, 07:14 AM   #17
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Hi Charlotte,
No, doctors seem to like to disagree with each other, and make life even harder for patients. The tablets she gave me are called Carbagen, another name for them is Carbamazepine.It seems to mainly be for treating epilepsy, but can also be a help for pain caused by trigeminal neuralgia (nerve pain) or even to treat depression! As I don't have any of those, I can't see how they were supposed to help. I did think it helped the jaw a little-but as there was not 'that' much change when I stopped taking them, I don't think it did much at all, and it didnt do anything for the toothache. The first week I took them I was like a zombie, I couldn't seem to keep awake, and always felt tired.
I didn't have to take my jeans off though-but I assume it was something to do with the nerves, and checking whether they were working ok. Mine did have me take my shoes and socks off though-pity I have ticklish feet. Lol
My tongue and mouth have been sore now for about 4 years, the first doctor I saw said it was oral thrush and gave me a mouthwash-which did nothing, then the dentist said it wasn't oral thrush!
So far I've seen about 5 dentists and 4 different jaw/facial specialists. Haven't had the blood test results back yet-so don't know if anything will show up in that-I'll let you know.
How are your problems coming along?

 
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:18 PM   #18
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Re: continual aching teeth

Boy do I sympathize with you. I also have been in pain from a simple replacement of a filling between teeth #5 and #6 in Jan 07. I started having gum soreness 3 weeks after the filling and was told that I neeeded a root canal on #5. The root canal failed and had to go to a Endo dentist for a apico procedure, this too failed.

I ended up having the tooth extracted last August and was fitted with a temp bridge. I continued having soreness in the gum tissue between pulled tooth and #6. Also, the apico procedure was not healing and I had to go to an oral surgeon for another surgery to clean out the apico site.

I had the permanate bridge placed Dec 26 and was still having pain. I was put on Neurotin for nerve damage,didn't really help. Off to the endo dentist again and he said I now needed a root canal in#6. Had that done May 21st, I continued having pain and the dentist wanted to do another apico. I said no way since the last one failed. I'm going to a Neurologist tomorrow to see what he has to say. I'm totally frustrated and in pain 24/7. Sometimes I think I'm loosing my mind and I've been to numerous dentists and they all have different remedies. None seem to work.

I hope you get an answer to your problem, it sure seems there's alot of other people out there with messed up mouths.

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Old 06-24-2008, 01:43 PM   #19
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Re: continual aching teeth

i seem to be in same boat as you .i'm in constant pain and no dentist seems to be able to find out why? or dont want to one or the two
i got to go back thursday.he wants to attempt to do a root canal,.on a mobile tooth
one dental hospital says it is possible whats causing the pain
another hospital says no deep root cleansing needs doing
one dentist says nothing is wrong another one says different

in mean time i am starting to lose weght again and cant sleep most of the time having to use sleeping aids
i have no faith in dentists now ,one i am going to at moment ive lsot confidence in him
as he broke my tooth as he took one next to it out
and apparantly been told i cannot have another crown fitted as the post will break
so ,when i go thursday ,to have a root canal done ,he also says he cannot guarantee the tooth wouldnt break
so possible it would break ,but also not only that one tooth will he break ,my other teeth eoither side?

so i come out surgery gummy
im at my wits end fed up with all this pain ,but no dentist seems to be able to or want to get to bottom of whats happening why im in so much pain and discomfort

i hope you get your problem solved and hopefully there be a solution for me too

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Old 06-25-2008, 09:17 PM   #20
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Hello, Well I went to the med school to see the nurologist yesterday and got mixed vibes on his views. He put me on nuerotin for two months to see if the pain will diminish. If this does not work he wants to do surgery a procedure called motor cortex stimulation. This involves drilling a hole in the cortex of the brain and implanting a devise in my chest to regulate it. OUCH!!!

No way do I want this procedure done and the success rate is only 70% . I'm thinking of trying acupunture. I'm still not sure that the problem is all nerve damage. It seems like it's in my gum tissue behind one tooth and at the root end on the same tooth. I had a root canal a month ago on that tooth and the nerve is suppose to be dead yet it's now sensitive to cold and hot and touch.

Boy, it's been 18 months of so many dentists and different surgery with no success. I'm not one to get depressed but this is wearing me down both physically and mentally. It just seems like it will never get better and heaven forbid if I have another problem with another tooth!!

Keep me posted on how your doing. It's so nice to have a web site where we all can vent our frustrations.

 
Old 06-26-2008, 08:20 AM   #21
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I'm just wondering if you know or could you find out what type of filler was used when you had your root canal done? Also, had an xray been taken of the tooth that had the root canal after it was completed?

 
Old 06-26-2008, 09:13 AM   #22
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Yes, a x-ray was taken after the root canal and of course everything looked good! My MD sent me for a MRI with contrast which would show the brain and also nerves around the teeth.

I took the MRI report to the Neurologist at the Med school and he said that it really doesn't show the nerve damage. However, he did note that I had a sinus infection in the left side of my sinuses. The problem with my teeth is on the right side so I don't think it is related to all the problems I have been having.

As far as the filling used on the root canal I don't know what was used. Do you know if cold and hot to the root canal tooth is normal in the healing? I did not have this prior to the root canal which was 5/21/08. So now I not only have ache,burning and sometimes throbbing pain I'm also sensitive to hot and cold in that area. Also, When flossing around the bridge and under the phony tooth it is really sensitive and aches.

Any advise would be appreciated Thanks,Donna

 
Old 06-26-2008, 09:42 AM   #23
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Re: continual aching teeth

hi gwen, maybe you know this already, but there's a paste being used in the States for root canals. It's called Sargenti Paste and has formaldehyde in it...people are being advised to ask their endodontists, etc what they are using as a filler or sealer before having a root canal done. That's why I asked if you knew what had been used in the first root canal that you had done. If there is an accidental overfilling of the root with this paste..it can cause a lot of problems apparently.

I'm sorry I don't know much about how a root canal should feel like weeks after with respect to heat and cold...all I know is that I had one done years ago and had no problems with that tooth or gum area since.

It just seems wierd that the pain you're experiencing seems to be located mostly at the site of the original work that you had done in 07?

 
Old 06-26-2008, 12:33 PM   #24
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I would recommend finding a new dentist, one who listens, and asking if your teeth show signs of grinding. If so, get a splint as soon as possible.
that is the problem with dentists today ,they dont listen to what the patients are telling them ?
and if they cant see ,what is causing the problem ,they cant be bothered to send them, to someone who does,as they will lose money by sending them to someone else.

you would of thought ,if a dentist couldnt see a problem but there is obviously aproblem as the patient is telling them ,you would of thought by trying to investigate further,even though it might be time consuming ,but surly its a challenge for future patients and also teaches them something new in their skills as a dentist

certain things are known in dentistry and all are taught ,by what they know ,from previous ,but it is possible ,certain things are not known then when teaching ,so surly by finding a problem and trying to get to the bottom of the problem and hope solve it ,surly makes you a better dentist
but now days dentists are not into a cure its just purly money money
and while your going back and forth ,to see them ,and they wont listen ,they are gettign money from you !!

 
Old 06-29-2008, 01:24 AM   #25
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Boy do I sympathize with you. I also have been in pain from a simple replacement of a filling between teeth #5 and #6 in Jan 07. I started having gum soreness 3 weeks after the filling and was told that I neeeded a root canal on #5. The root canal failed and had to go to a Endo dentist for a apico procedure, this too failed.

I ended up having the tooth extracted last August and was fitted with a temp bridge. I continued having soreness in the gum tissue between pulled tooth and #6. Also, the apico procedure was not healing and I had to go to an oral surgeon for another surgery to clean out the apico site.

I had the permanate bridge placed Dec 26 and was still having pain. I was put on Neurotin for nerve damage,didn't really help. Off to the endo dentist again and he said I now needed a root canal in#6. Had that done May 21st, I continued having pain and the dentist wanted to do another apico. I said no way since the last one failed. I'm going to a Neurologist tomorrow to see what he has to say. I'm totally frustrated and in pain 24/7. Sometimes I think I'm loosing my mind and I've been to numerous dentists and they all have different remedies. None seem to work.

I hope you get an answer to your problem, it sure seems there's alot of other people out there with messed up mouths.

I really hope that you get your problems sorted out soon-I hate all this toothache and no one seems interested enough to find out a cause. It's just "well, it's not this or that" but they don't want to find what it 'actually is'
Nothing I take for the toothache seems to make any difference at all. How did the trip to the neurologist go?

 
Old 06-29-2008, 01:29 AM   #26
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Yes, a x-ray was taken after the root canal and of course everything looked good! My MD sent me for a MRI with contrast which would show the brain and also nerves around the teeth.

I took the MRI report to the Neurologist at the Med school and he said that it really doesn't show the nerve damage. However, he did note that I had a sinus infection in the left side of my sinuses. The problem with my teeth is on the right side so I don't think it is related to all the problems I have been having.

As far as the filling used on the root canal I don't know what was used. Do you know if cold and hot to the root canal tooth is normal in the healing? I did not have this prior to the root canal which was 5/21/08. So now I not only have ache,burning and sometimes throbbing pain I'm also sensitive to hot and cold in that area. Also, When flossing around the bridge and under the phony tooth it is really sensitive and aches.

Any advise would be appreciated Thanks,Donna
I can't get used to these posts moving-so sorry, I missed that you had already been to the neurologist. Mine asked me if I had problems with my sinus-well, what do I know? I just said "I don't think so", but he never checked or anything.
I've had root canals done (3) some years ago, and never had sensitivity to hot and cold afterwards on that tooth. Maybe they missed a portion of root and didn't get it all out or something?
My problems with my teeth/mouth are all on the left side.

 
Old 06-29-2008, 01:37 AM   #27
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i seem to be in same boat as you .i'm in constant pain and no dentist seems to be able to find out why? or dont want to one or the two i got to go back thursday.he wants to attempt to do a root canal,.on a mobile tooth one dental hospital says it is possible whats causing the pain another hospital says no deep root cleansing needs doing
one dentist says nothing is wrong another one says different

in mean time i am starting to lose weght again and cant sleep most of the time having to use sleeping aids i have no faith in dentists now ,one i am going to at moment ive lsot confidence in him as he broke my tooth as he took one next to it out and apparantly been told i cannot have another crown fitted as the post will break so ,when i go thursday ,to have a root canal done ,he also says he cannot guarantee the tooth wouldnt break
so possible it would break ,but also not only that one tooth will he break ,my other teeth eoither side?

so i come out surgery gummy im at my wits end fed up with all this pain ,but no dentist seems to be able to or want to get to bottom of whats happening why im in so much pain and discomfort

i hope you get your problem solved and hopefully there be a solution for me too
I really can't understand just 'why' dentists these days of 'improved technology' can't even find out what's wrong with a simple thing like a tooth!

I have no confidence in my dentist any more either but as all NHS ones seem the same-there's not much I can do as I can't afford to go 'private'.

I was told a few years ago to have a 'deep root clean' and I hated it. It was so painful as my teeth were so sensitive, in the end she had to stop and I had to go back in again another day but have injections to deaden the nerves beforehand. It didn't do anything to stop the aching though.

I just wish that 'someone' could come up with a solution to stop it all. I even thought I'd have all of them taken out-but the neurologist said it wouldn't stop the aching! I would have thought that if the tooth was gone-and it's not a neurological thing-what is going to ache? No one knows about my sore mouth either-and no one seems to care. It's not a life-threatening thing-so why bother I guess.

 
Old 06-29-2008, 08:12 AM   #28
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I really can't understand just 'why' dentists these days of 'improved technology' can't even find out what's wrong with a simple thing like a tooth!

I have no confidence in my dentist any more either but as all NHS ones seem the same-there's not much I can do as I can't afford to go 'private'.

I was told a few years ago to have a 'deep root clean' and I hated it. It was so painful as my teeth were so sensitive, in the end she had to stop and I had to go back in again another day but have injections to deaden the nerves beforehand. It didn't do anything to stop the aching though.

I just wish that 'someone' could come up with a solution to stop it all. I even thought I'd have all of them taken out-but the neurologist said it wouldn't stop the aching! I would have thought that if the tooth was gone-and it's not a neurological thing-what is going to ache? No one knows about my sore mouth either-and no one seems to care. It's not a life-threatening thing-so why bother I guess.

well,it's not just the NHS ,that dont want to know its private sector as well.all theyre interested in is getting your money while your going back time after time
they dont seem to be interested what could be causing it ,i think there should be a investigation into dentist ,and look into their books,and if they find a patient going back time after time ,and paying money after money.for them to investigate why the patients problem hasnt been solved?

then maybe ,all dentists would get to the bottom of their patients problem or by refering them to someone who can work out whats causing the pain and solve it !!

trouble is we havnt got that safe guard ,and we are in their hands ,i think it be more honest of dentists to tell their patients if they cant solve the problem and investigate it further until they do have a solution

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Old 07-17-2008, 12:57 AM   #29
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well,it's not just the NHS ,that dont want to know its private sector as well.all theyre interested in is getting your money while your going back time after time
they dont seem to be interested what could be causing it ,i think there should be a investigation into dentist ,and look into their books,and if they find a patient going back time after time ,and paying money after money.for them to investigate why the patients problem hasnt been solved?

then maybe ,all dentists would get to the bottom of their patients problem or by refering them to someone who can work out whats causing the pain and solve it !!

trouble is we havnt got that safe guard ,and we are in their hands ,i think it be more honest of dentists to tell their patients if they cant solve the problem and investigate it further until they do have a solution
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I do agree with you, there needs to be some body of people that can investigate claims impartially, and then maybe we could all get improved teeth or less toothache-that would be good.
No one is interested though-there must be too much money to be made in teeth and they don't want it to disappear-they don't seem to care about the patients anyway.

 
Old 06-22-2010, 05:55 AM   #30
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Re: continual aching teeth

hello,
I have the same problem. It started 3 years ago as a mild teeth ache. It was like a throbbing sensation all day every day in all my teeth. It's not very painfull but it is present and anoying. The last 3 months it got worse. Now throbbing is more painfull and it's starts to cause real discomfort. I went to the dentist and the medschool and both of them didn't find anything wrong. But like everybody already said....there is something wrong, because we feel it and we say it. They just don't know what it is. If you think logicially you would know, that it is a problem with the nerves. What i think it could be is that the bloodvessels in the roots became bigger(varicosed) or just became bigger and wider than they should be. The nerves are laying in the same root with the bloodvessels and they are strangled with eachother. the bloodvessels compres against the nerves and that's making the nerves to get irritated, and send the painsignals to the brains. This is my opinion.....so it also could be false. When I went to the dentist 3 years ago he made 5 fillings. Maybe the fillings are causing the pain. in the past many people had problems with their amalgam fillings, but I don't have them...I have the white ones.
Maybe someone of you have venous weakness, or took something that caused the vessels to grow. I truely think that's the reason. all the luck to everybody. I'm going to see my dentist next week, and willtell him what I think. What I could recommend to everybody or at least try are supplement that improve bloodflow and support the veins. (omega 3, verasel)see if it helps. bu the way I am just 25 and my teeth all look normal from the ouside

 
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