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spyer 04-04-2004 07:51 PM

ANXIETY with a touch of DEPRESSION
 
Hi All,

I have just became a member and this is my firts post. I Have suffered from a form of Anxiety all my life and I didn't even know what it was untill last year when I was doing some research under 'shyness'. My research led me to believe that I suffered from Social Anxiety/Phobia.

I was glad in a way that I found out, because I knew that there was such a condition and that I wasn't the only one in the world suffering from it. But sad because it is a rather serious mental problem and it was getting more and more difficult to live with as I was getting older. I am now 22 years old by the way.

Any how I finally plucked up the courage about 6 months ago to seek profssional help, and since then I have been through various drugs including BUSPIRONE and PROPRANALOL. Soon after that I realised that I wasn't being taken very seriously by my GP, so I made a complaint and was put through to another experienced GP, who I felt was brilliant in understanding my condition and only 2 weeks ago he prescribed me EFEXOR XL - Venlafaxine Hydrochloride.

I have been put on 75mg capsules once a day (they are extended release, so less side effect and last longer), and have been feeling some inprovement.

I havn't really suffered from depression, as I have had SA all my life and learnt to live with it, but lately I have been feeling very down with thoughts in my head such as, 22 years old, no girlfriend, unable to confront people, can't say no to people, and staying away/hiding from people all together.

One main problem with SA is the heart beat, when I'm anxious my heart will just beat away like drums, so loud I can feel them. That has now stopped thanks to Venlafaxine.

But the major problem is looking people straight in the eye. When I do, I get watery eyes, so bad that it looks like I'm crying. This also happens when I'm being humiliated, criticised, or when meeting new people. I also feel very week above the ankle depending on how bad the situation is. In other words, I'm very emotional, and Venlafaxine doesn't appear to be helping me in this department. But its only been 2 weeks, so there's still time.

In the last couple of days I have been taking 2 doses of 75mg of Venlafaxine, once in the morning and once before bed. My doctor doesn't know this so I'll have to get in touch with him first thing tomorrow, and find out what he has to say. He probably won't be too happy but I'll have to wait and see. I havn't had any extra side effects as a result by the way.

The only major side effect I'm still having is Impotency. As hard as I try, I cannot ejaculate succesfully, only after a few days I can somehow manage it, but it takes quite a while. I've also lost about 60% of my sexual interest.
How embarrasing, sorry guys.

And that finally brings me too my question for all you good people-

Is taking 2 doses of 75mg of Venlafaxine twice a day harmfull? considering that I was told to take only one dose of 75mg once a day, and have been doing so for the last 14 days.

Sorry for making it so long, but I thought there might be other Social Anxiety sufferers out there who might respond to this post for a general chat even, as I have never spoken to another SA sufferer.

Thanks guys :angel:

Spyer :wave:

Foxbluff 04-04-2004 08:08 PM

Re: ANXIETY with a touch of DEPRESSION
 
Hi Spyer. Glad you found this board!

Doubling up on the meds, huh? You already know what I'm going to say, right?!? STOP doing that!!! (is that about what you expected to hear?:)

And DO call your doc tomorrow as planned. I'm not a male, but know that sexual side effects are one of the biggest complaints about anti-depressants. Sooo, there's another reason you shouldn't be taking more of that drug than the doc prescribed.;-)

Your doc will probably tell you that not enough time has gone by for the med to have taken full effect. Some of the symptoms you're having may very well lessen after more time on the drug. I hope so! Keep posting. Fox

spyer 04-05-2004 11:45 AM

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Hi Fox and everybody else,

Thanks for the reply. I suppose it was a stupid question to ask, only some one insane would have suggested to keep taking double doses. :rolleyes:

I called my doc and at first he went over the roof, and pretty much told me off. Anyway I told him that it has been exactly 2 weeks today, since I've been taking the med, and that I wasn't having any bad side effects from the extra dose which I've been taking for the last 3 days, and he asked me too stop taking the extra dose and to go and see him next week for a check-up, and then maybe he'll prescribe me 150mg of Venlafaxine. :bouncing:

I have now stopped over dosing and am back to 75mg a day. :D

I have realised that watery eyes and feeling very emotional, isn't actually a normal symptom of Social Anxiety or any other form of Anxiety.

Is anyone able to provide me any information on this.

Thanks again guys,

Spyer :wave:

Foxbluff 04-05-2004 04:52 PM

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[QUOTE=spyer]
I have realised that watery eyes and feeling very emotional, isn't actually a normal symptom of Social Anxiety or any other form of Anxiety.[/QUOTE]

Hi Spyer. Thanks for reporting back & for making that call to your doc. Am very relieved to hear that you'll following the doc's orders again. Whew!!!

Abt the problem in the quote: Did the doc actually tell you that those 2 symptoms are unrelated to Social Anxiety or did you decide that from another source?

I am quite unfamiliar w/both of those symptoms, but then, I don't suffer from social anxiety and am not up on the symptoms of that condition.

If you haven't specifically asked the doc abt those 2 symptoms, please do so. Also, it it's the doc that said it was unrelated to social anxiety, ask the doc what could be causing that. Please let us know what you find out. Fox

billy7772 04-05-2004 10:53 PM

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Hi Speyer and welcome :wave:
I'm gonna recommend to you what I recommend to everyone... Get involved in CBT :bouncing: I was on meds for many years before I found cbt and it cured me and got me off meds in a remarkably short period of time. Best of all once you learn the tools in cbt you have them forever so you are able to give yourself relief almost instantly whenever you are feeling stressed, anxious or down. It's all about using the tools to learn to think more clearly and accurately about things and once you do your anxiety, panic and depression will miraculously begin to lift before your eyes. My favorite starter book on cbt is "been there, done that? Do this! By sam obitz. The more you put in the more you get out of cbt.

Billy

soconfused 04-06-2004 09:50 AM

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[QUOTE=billy7772] My favorite starter book on cbt is "been there, done that? Do this! By sam obitz. Billy[/QUOTE]


Billy, I hope you don't mind my asking this, but I keep seeing you recommend that book. Are you sure you're not somehow associated with it??? "Inquiring minds want to know"...

Foxbluff 04-06-2004 10:50 AM

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[QUOTE=soconfused]Billy, I hope you don't mind my asking this, but I keep seeing you recommend that book. Are you sure you're not somehow associated with it??? "Inquiring minds want to know"...[/QUOTE]


*Fox joking* Maybe he's the son of Sam?!?:)

spyer 04-06-2004 10:50 AM

Re: ANXIETY with a touch of DEPRESSION
 
Guys,

First of all, I can't believe how many people have replied to this thread, thanx guys. Now here I go again.

I am a member of the Norwich Union Private Health Care Sceme ( In England, London) through my employer, which is a sort of company benefit.

This means that I will not have to be put on a waiting list to see a Psychologist/Psychiatrist, because I'll be doing it privately. Which of course is good. :bouncing:

But the thing is, my Doc told me that I needed a Psychologist and that he would put me through to a local one ASAP, and in the mean time, he put me on Efexor to calm me down a bit, and told me that the Psychologist may change this and prescribe me something else. After he had sorted it out, I found out that my Private Health Care doesn't cover me to see a Psychologist, but however, they will allow me to see a Psychiatrist instead. What to do? :confused:

So I got back in touch with my Doc, and he was puzzled and couldn't understand why they could do one and not the other. After cursing them he then reffered me to a Psychiatrist, who I am now waiting for to call me and arrange an appointment.

So I lost a couple of weeks just running up and down to see my Doc.

And Foxbluff, I told my Doc the first time I saw him about all the symptons I have, and he didn't really say anything about the emotional side of things not being related to SA. This I found out from reading stuff on many websites that deal with SA. And watery eyes and just feeling like crying at the slightest criticism, is not a symptom of SA.

Unfortunately, this is the main problem I have, otherwise my SA isn't as bad as to cause me to sit at home and avoid the rest of the world. I'm now going to wait to see the Psychiatrist, which should be sometime this week, and ask him about this.

And finally, CBT is more than likely to be the treatment I'll be recieving.
But I'm a little confused about the whole Psychologist and Psychiatrist thing. My Doc says I need a Psychologist but he aslo says that a Psychiatrist can also help me.

Thanks to you all again and hope to hear from you soon.

Spyer :wave:

Foxbluff 04-06-2004 11:10 AM

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[QUOTE=spyer] I found out that my Private Health Care doesn't cover me to see a Psychologist, but however, they will allow me to see a Psychiatrist instead.

So I got back in touch with my Doc, and he was puzzled and couldn't understand why they could do one and not the other. After cursing them he then reffered me to a Psychiatrist, who I am now waiting for to call me and arrange an appointment.[/QUOTE]

Spyer, I'm clueless as to why the ins co. won't cover psychologist...seems it would have been cheaper! However, I think that it's a positive thing that your doc views your problem as one that can be handled by a psychologist rather than needing a psychiatrist! Look on the bright side...w/the pdoc, you're be getting someone w/more education and training than the psychologist!:) Glad to hear that you won't have to wait 6 wks to see the expert. Sounds like you have a real good benefit w/your private ins. Fox

billy7772 04-08-2004 12:36 AM

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[QUOTE=soconfused]Billy, I hope you don't mind my asking this, but I keep seeing you recommend that book. Are you sure you're not somehow associated with it??? "Inquiring minds want to know"...[/QUOTE]

Hi Soconfused-
Why would I be offended, it's a legitimate question! No I am not associated with it unless you consider re-reading it and using the tools in it being associated with it, but I know that's not what you mean :jester:
I find it to be the best book for introducing CBT to people (and that's what I want to do on here so they can get where I am today) so naturally it is the book I suggest. Maybe I should write and ask for a commision though :p
I used to recommend my other favorite book "Feeling Good" by David Burns with the Obitz book but I found people responded more favorably to the Obitz book as the Burns book overwhelmed many as a starter book on CBT. The Obitz book is short and easy and written from a sufferer's POV so it is easier for people to identify with and get going on. I still recommend Burn's book too but usually not until people have had some success with the tools and are less likely to become overwhelmed by it. They are the two best CBT books out there for my money and they are both relatively cheap.

Let me know if you have any other questions?

Take care!

Billy

billy7772 04-08-2004 12:37 AM

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[QUOTE=Foxbluff]*Fox joking* Maybe he's the son of Sam?!?:)[/QUOTE]

LOL! That was pretty funny Fox :eek:

Billy -from my prison cell :jester:

billy7772 04-08-2004 12:40 AM

Re: ANXIETY with a touch of DEPRESSION
 
[QUOTE=spyer]Guys,

First of all, I can't believe how many people have replied to this thread, thanx guys. Now here I go again.

I am a member of the Norwich Union Private Health Care Sceme ( In England, London) through my employer, which is a sort of company benefit.

This means that I will not have to be put on a waiting list to see a Psychologist/Psychiatrist, because I'll be doing it privately. Which of course is good. :bouncing:

But the thing is, my Doc told me that I needed a Psychologist and that he would put me through to a local one ASAP, and in the mean time, he put me on Efexor to calm me down a bit, and told me that the Psychologist may change this and prescribe me something else. After he had sorted it out, I found out that my Private Health Care doesn't cover me to see a Psychologist, but however, they will allow me to see a Psychiatrist instead. What to do? :confused:

So I got back in touch with my Doc, and he was puzzled and couldn't understand why they could do one and not the other. After cursing them he then reffered me to a Psychiatrist, who I am now waiting for to call me and arrange an appointment.

So I lost a couple of weeks just running up and down to see my Doc.

And Foxbluff, I told my Doc the first time I saw him about all the symptons I have, and he didn't really say anything about the emotional side of things not being related to SA. This I found out from reading stuff on many websites that deal with SA. And watery eyes and just feeling like crying at the slightest criticism, is not a symptom of SA.

Unfortunately, this is the main problem I have, otherwise my SA isn't as bad as to cause me to sit at home and avoid the rest of the world. I'm now going to wait to see the Psychiatrist, which should be sometime this week, and ask him about this.

And finally, CBT is more than likely to be the treatment I'll be recieving.
But I'm a little confused about the whole Psychologist and Psychiatrist thing. My Doc says I need a Psychologist but he aslo says that a Psychiatrist can also help me.

Thanks to you all again and hope to hear from you soon.

Spyer :wave:[/QUOTE]

Hi Spyer-
I hope you are right and it will be CBT you are getting :) That is weird that they want you to see a Psychiatrist instead of a psychologist but I like Fox's optimistic take on that :bouncing:

Keep us posted!

Billy

Elana 04-09-2004 10:57 PM

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hi foxbluff, I recommend the obitz book a lot too does that me "daughter of sam?" :confused:
Seriously spyer I hope you are covered by a cbt specialist!

Foxbluff 04-10-2004 11:47 AM

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[QUOTE=Elana]hi foxbluff, I recommend the obitz book a lot too does that me "daughter of sam?" :confused:
Seriously spyer I hope you are covered by a cbt specialist![/QUOTE]

Hi there, Elana! ***Fox joking*** "dau of Sam"? Well...maybe so! Though "dau of Sam" wouldn't be nearly as bad as being "Son of Sam". Afterall, Sam's sister wasn't the one that believed the barking dogs on postal route were telling her to kill people!LOL Billy Boy is going to come after me now for sure and I don't think that his response will be accompanied by those leaping frogs:( ***Fox joking***

index.html 04-10-2004 12:20 PM

Re: ANXIETY with a touch of DEPRESSION
 
[QUOTE=Foxbluff] Billy Boy is going to come after me now for sure and I don't think that his response will be accompanied by those leaping frogs:( ***Fox joking***[/QUOTE]

Wanna put any money on that FoxBluff??? I'm betting the leaping frogs will be there...


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