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Old 02-05-2007, 09:57 AM   #1
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what is this feeling in my gut?

Hey everyone(: I suffer from depression and some days worse than others but thats not all of it. I have this feeling in my heart or stomach like a nervous or hollow feeling. What is it? I mean I know I have GAD too but this feeling really bothers me. I get nervous when going anywhere, the store, out to eat etc. Does anyone else have these feelings and what have you found that helps that nervous feeling in your stomach? Thank you

 
Old 02-05-2007, 10:19 AM   #2
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hey jan,

do you take any meds (i assume you're taking an AD) for anxiety? often, drs. prescribe an AD, saying that it will work on the anxiety as well, but just as often, it won't work as well on that.

well, i think it's best to ask the dr. about it. but till then, i found that deep breathing exercises work, as well as meditation and yoga. i also have anxiety--panic, more precisely. anyway, when you breathe, breathe through your nose, and take in as much air as you can, letting your stomach inflate like a baloon, hold for a count of five (or more if you can), then slowly release the breath, making sure all of it is out. do this a few times, slowly. yoga is very good at centering the mind, so you won't pay too much attention to extra stuff that's going on around in the body our outside of it.

i know how you feel, so you're not alone. but i think talking to your dr., like i said, is the best thing you can do!!!
good luck, jan.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:29 AM   #3
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Hey Dakota thank you for your reply. Well currently I am taking generic prozac. Up until last night I was taking seroquel with it but felt terrible yesterday so I'm trying to find something that helps. I have such a problem with these meds and give up really quick on them. I'm headed to the health food store to find something??? I will try the breathing exercises. Thank you bunches (:

 
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Janart, are you in therapy? Have you always been anxious? Are there any places where you feel secure or with any people in peticular?

 
Old 02-05-2007, 11:31 AM   #5
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hey jan,

seroquel for GAD? maybe 'cuz it has sedative properties, but i still think it's a very heavy duty medication to take (it's an antipsychotic, for crying out loud). and you're right, it can have many side effects--that's why you probably feel worse on it. i hope you see a specialist, not a primary dr. for these prescriptions.

in the short term, hopefully you can find something at the health food store to alleviate your negative feelings.
p.s. also, must you take the generic type of prozac? some people say it truly does not work as well as the "regular" one does.
keep us posted, jan!
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:33 PM   #6
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Sannah,
I guess the only place I feel at ease is at home. I'm due to start a new job soon and I'm scared to death. I haven't worked much in the last 2 years. I can go to the store and out to eat but some days are harder than others. The job is in merchandising where I will be going into stores for it so I'm nervous, but anything "NEW" makes me uncomfortable. I have had therapy in the past but it didn't help too much. I haven't had the cognitive therpy people talk about. (:

Dakota,
The doc put me on the seroquel because it helps with sleep and helps with appetite. I actually was thinking that this generic prozac wasn't working good. I was on symbyax a month ago which is prozac and zyprexa and I felt much better than I do on this one. The price difference is $2 vs $102. But I may try it anyway. I bought some of the inositol today and I take a b-complex but I will continue the prozac for right now at least. Unfortunately right now I'm seeing my family practice doc. He's really good but I'm sure it would be better to see someone else. So far I haven't been pleased with the ones that I've been to. Do you have any idea which med is good for GAD. I've been on many but can't remember what helped with it. Thanks yall (:

 
Old 02-06-2007, 06:23 AM   #7
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Janart, do you feel that you can protect yourself from others?

 
Old 02-06-2007, 06:24 PM   #8
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Yea I'm okay as far as that's concerned. I mean I get concerned too much about what people think about me. Except on PMS days then I couldn't care less lol. I guess the main thing about going out is not wanting to see people, like some family and people I went to school with ( certain people). I don't know really. I think I'm worse in my home town than like if I go some place where I don't know anyone.

 
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Janart, so you are paralyzed by what others might think about you? You know that you are giving your power away to others by thinking this way? Everyone has an opinion and if I worried about what everyone else thought there would be no ME left. It is much better to stay focused in your own mind and let everyone else have their opinions for themselves. Be strong and feel your own power!

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:26 AM   #10
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I know *exactly* how this gut-anxiety feels. This is the first time I've heard someone describe it like that.

I get this all the time -- it's the reason I have sought treatment. I can't stand it. It makes my entire lower part of my body tremble and feel like something is dreadfully wrong.

The only other time I have felt like this is when my father was first diagnosed with colon cancer. The knot in my stomach, the nausea... Only this time, it doesn't go away, and there is no reason whatsoever for the feeling. Nothing is wrong. My job is going well, I have a wonderful family. I had amazing parents. Loving husband. Smart and beautiful daughters... No rational reason for this gut-wrenching knot.

My doctor has prescribed Zoloft, and I am starting my third week. I don't feel much of a difference, though.

I live near a major metropolitan area, but you'd think I was in a 3rd world country -- it is so hard to find a psychiatrist who isn't booked until April. I had to wait several weeks for the one I am seeing now, and I know it is not a good fit. I am trying to find another doctor, but don't want to let this one go until I do. I feel so stuck.

I am seeking therapy, and have an appointment on 3/7 (again, a wait...).

In the meantime, I am trying to distract myself as much as possible, The gut feeling makes it hard -- hard to eat, sleep, concentrate. I have lost about 10 pounds since this started in December.

Anyway, no question really. Just wanted to chime in and let you know that you are not alone with this feeling. I hope things are going better for you.

 
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Needaplan, did this knot begin with your father's diagnosis? What was the outcome with your father and how long ago was he diagnosed?

 
Old 02-07-2007, 11:24 AM   #12
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Hi Sannah,

Thanks so much for your note. My apologies in advance for letting me go on and on...

The feeling I had when my father was diagnosed was the closest thing I could think of that felt like this gut feeling now. While his diagnosis (and death) played a part in all of this, that wasn't the only thing.

Actually, the last 5 years of my life have been hugely stressful, starting with my father's diagnosis in 2000 (and untimely death in 2004). Then, I became pregnant, but my baby was diagnosed with a fatal genetic anomaly in my 4th month. I carried her to term, knowing she would die -- she lived for a week, and frankly, as stressful as it was, her life brought us so many blessings.

Anyway, the year my father died, our family was supposed to move to the middle east. My husband went ahead, and I handled the move-out. Literally the day after movers emptied my household goods, we got the call that we could not move due to terrorist threats. This was a move that I was very much looking forward to. I wan't bore you with the gory details of getting our furniture back, buying another house, blah, blah, blah.

I did, though, hit a wall that summer (2004), and I can pinpoint that time as when a lot of this started. I have also been dealing with chronic pain in my right arm for about a year (2 surgeries in the last 7 months). I know that chipped away at any mental defenses I had left.

I am normally such a strong and independant woman. I have a high profile job that I enjoy, and get to work most of the week from my home office. My family is amazing. There isn't anything wrong anymore.

But this feeling still persists, like even though there's nothing wrong anymore, my body thinks there is.

I know I have an anxiety disorder, and while I thought I had dealt with everything over the last 5 years, my body and brain is probably suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. The dx is all well and good. It's the gut-wrenching sensation that causes such mental hell.

Thanks, again, for letting me go on and on...

Allyson

 
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Do you have any idea which med is good for GAD. I've been on many but can't remember what helped with it.
hi jan,

well, the best drugs that reduce the symptoms of GAD and anxiety in general are actually the benzodiazepines (i.e., valium, klonopin, ativan, xanax), but they're also the most addictive. then there's buspar (it's not addictive and you won't feel dizzy or "spaced out" --or actually anything at --i was on it for a while and it didn't change my anxiety level one bit, but you may react to it differently). then there are the anti-depressants that they use for anxiety. there's effexor, that treats both depression and specifically GAD; then there are your various SSRI's/AD's: prozac, zoloft, lexapro, celexa, and paxil. there're also the older AD's (the tricyclics, such as tofranil-- prescribed to treat panic disorder and GAD, and anafranil, prescribed for ocd. sometimes beta-blockers, like propanolol or nadolol are used to combat the anxious feelings. i think the best treatment would be a combo of a benzo with an AD, plus therapy. this was actually the best thing for me. don't think i could've managed otherwise.
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:09 AM   #14
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Dakota thank you for your feedback. I wrote some of these down. I've tried most of the SSRI'S. Currently prozac but its not helping the nervous feelings at all and my headaches are daily so its not helping with that. Thanks again!


Allyson you and I sound so much alike. These feelings started with me when my Grandmother and Mom got sick with cancer at the same time. I was my Moms caregiver for year and a half and it was really bad. For her and for me. They both passed away and not only have I not gotten over losing them but just the traumatic feeling of the whole sickness and suffering has really taken its toll. I really think no matter how much med or therapy I will never get over this. And this feeling in my gut or where ever it is is there now as I'm writing you and always there. Its got to be anxiety, I just don't know if I'll ever get better. Just wanted you to know you are not alone (:

 
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Janart, I think that you can get better if you understand what happened to you. Suffering through an illness with someone does affect you. My daughter was born with an illness called Leaky Gut Syndrome (she is almost 6 now). It causes progressively worse food allergies until you are allergic to all food. It also caused a lot of stomach pain and I did have to stick her with an epipen once when her throat was swelling shut from peanut butter. I was nervous every day. What was I going to feed her? What other foods was she going to get too allergic to to feed her anymore? Was she going to go into anaphylaxis again? I was wound pretty tight most of the time. Well, I never gave up hope that I could find a doctor to help her. I searched and searched. When she was 4 I finally found that doctor. He treated her for one year and cured her! She and we can finally have a normal life now! But you know what. If I talk about her ordeal to a certain point or read here about a child who has leaky gut and the food allergies just like she had, I get sent back emotionally. I get really upset all over again. I tell myself "It's over! She's better!" I think that it just left quite an imprint on me emotionally because we suffered for so many years with this nightmare. I do believe with time that it will pass, however. (The ordeal just ended this last fall). Maybe if you write here about what happened with you and your mom and your grandmother it can help you resolve your feelings a bit?

 
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