The docs say my partners depressed but theres more to it!
Hello, I have been in a relationship for just under 5 years with the love of my life, when we first met we were both in current relationships, myself for 6 years and her for 2 (but he was in prison so only saw him a few times a year), she got pregnant and we had a beautifull daughter, all was going really well, we got engaged, house, car. cat etc, it was the best thing that had ever happened to me, we never argued, constantly toild each other we loved eachother etc, we really wanted another child together so started trying, we tried for approx 1 year but she had endemetriosis so this was not helping the matter so we thought we would book for IVF, funnily enough just after booking she was pregnant the natural way, we were so excited and happy about this as we didnt think it was possible, 3 months into the pregnancy she started to bleed slightly so went to hospital to check it out but all was ok, 2 weeks later she had severe pain and had a misscarraige in hospital, it was very upsetting at the time (jan 07) but we thought hey, we still have a lovely health 3 year old, we werent going to try again just get on with life and live it to the max, in feb 07 she received an email from her friend advising her that her ex boyfriends mother had recently fallen ill and died a ew days earlier, she advised when the funeral was, as soon as this email was received my partner decided to get on a flight to goto the funeral, her ex had been out of prison for about 6 months now, when she arrived she went to the funeral and stayed for a few days, constantly calling and taxting me for hours on end, she also went to see her father when she was in the country and was still calling etc, when she flew back to the place where she originally was she went very vague, was constantly drunk when ever I called or she called, theer was no emotion, she had been there for 2 weeks and was due to fly back to us, she called to say that she wasnt getting the flight that day due to serious period pains, fair enough, then nothing for 3-4 days, whenever I called she hung up, she was gone for just over 3 weeks and then I got a text saying that she will be on the plane etc and gave me the numbers etc, when she returned it was like me looking at a complete stranger, she was very heavily drinking, eating once or twice per week, drinking some days from 7.30am all through the day and night then just sleeping it off and doing nothing whatsoever, she was very paranoid about things, kept her phone with her at all times, deleted internet history constantly, her phone was constantly ringing and texts coming in and she was very vague, she decided to goto the docs as she was not herself, he dianosed her with depression and put her on prozac, she was advised not to drink while taking but she still did telling me that it wont make any difference and was rubbish!! later on she told me that she was still in love with her ex boyfriend and when she got to the funeral all her feelings came flooding back, I was moirtified, she also said at the same time that she did not love me and wished our daughter had never been born which was not her because she was a great loving mother before she went away, as the weeks went on she slowly started to becomer herself again, loving to me and our daughter, I thought this was great then I realised that she was only being like this to me when she was drunk or the morning after she had been drinking so it didnt really seem real, she assured me and swore so many times that nothing happened when she saw her ex boyriend but I just wanted to believe it and still hope it now in a way, 2 days ago I was looking for my daughters baby dinosaur when I found a letter on a pad for him saying that she thinks about him 24 hours a day, waits for his morning text messages and calls and she will be with him in a few months etc etc, I was deverstated, I left the pad by her bedside and went to work, 20 mins later I received a message saying she was leaving, I rushed home to talk, she had been caught out, I asked her why she lied to me and all she could say was that she is confused and does love me but did need to go away again to see her dad and see what she wants in life, she said she felt ashamed etc, I believed her and said that I will always love her and as long as she is truthfull and honest with me then I will still be with her and never mention it again, she said that she had to do it or it would be in 2 weeks 3 weeks 6 months but it had to be done, I was not going to stand in the way of that, she wanted top tak our daughter but that was a big no as for 1 I did not want my daughter around another man that I do not know but hate so much and 2: she was not mentally stable enough to look after herself so there would be no change o lookinf after a 3 year old aswell, she agreed and booked the flight or yesterday just in her name (to the town that her ex is not her dad!) we spoke all day and I understood some things that she was saying but not others about why she needed to get away, in a way she is choosing between him and me, he is 35, still lives at home with his parents because he spends all his money on booze and fags, I work very hard, have commitments am a loving father to our daughter, I know that material possessions are nothing where love is involved but the grass is not always greener on the other side and I am starting to get the feeling that she is going back in time to where she had no commitments and thinks that she can run away from the hurt of losing a baby into a fresh start with no problems etc, I am so confused and dont really know what to do with myself, I feel like I have been a single father for the last 2 and a half months and our daughter is picking up on that and I dont want her head to be messed up aswell, I want to wait for the next 2 weeks till she comes home and tells me her decision but all I can see is bad things happening, the last thing she said to me at the airport was ''dont worry'', does anyone want to swap lives because I didnt see this one coming!
Re: The docs say my partners depressed but theres more to it!
Wow! First of all, congratulations for keeping your daughter safe
That is all you can do right now. The only person that will be able to help her is herself. What you need to do is go on with your life...raise your daughter and meet someone who is mentally stable. And don't for one second think that you'll never love someone that way again...because you will, I promise.
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I wouldn't give up on her just yet.
It seems to me that she may have had a delayed reaction to your babies death as many people do. I personally have a problem with blocking things out and I have always found that they come back with a vengence. If she is seriously depressed as it seems she is, she may be pushing you away because she doesn't think she's good enough for you and your daughter. The problem with depression is that a lot of the time you are not thinking rationally at all. Everything is your own fault and you deserve everything bad that happens to you. Maybe she doesn't feel she deserves your love and by going back to her ex you will let her go. (Well thats what happens to me)
This can't be easy for you. All you can do is support your daughter the best you can and hope she gets better and comes home.
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Heres an update, she landed at her destination, no call, 4 hours later I called her to see if she was ok, she couldnt talk, cut me short saying she would call back and never did, I tried calling her again this morning, as soon as she answered and knew it was me she hung up so my depressed alcoholic partner has run away and I dont know how I can help anymore as she is on the other side of the world.
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hi there confusedguy,
you seem like a wonderful dad and partner!!! glad you kept your daughter with you--i agree with the other posters about that!
your wife seems to be going through some sort of an early midlife crisis--at least that's what is sounds like. even though she's got a good home, a loving husband, and a wonderful daughter, she's itching for "newer pastures," that are actually old, trodden-down, dirty streets, if you know what i mean. i think she's thinking things are more (they only seem more) exciting with this guy who just got out of prison, who's drinking and doing God-knows what, and who apparently still lives at home with his parents at the age of 35. what can he offer her now, with a prison record, and when he still lives at home? when you look at it in a factual manner (which she definitely cannot do), all you get is a picture of a woman who's thinking that she's going back to re-visit her youth or something similar.....as if the grass is greener, as if those days still exist, etc. i think she'll be in for a very crude awakening!!!! oh, she'll probably be fine with him for a few months, but after all the "newness" of it all wears off, she'll be coming back to you...i'm willing to bet on it...saying how silly she was for even thinking of doing this. she's testing waters, and she feels she must do this to see how it goes...perhaps because she didn't get the chance to end things the way they should've ended. i don't think anybody would exchange a good / better life for a less nicer one.
keep your chin up. you're worthy of much more than this!
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Originally Posted by veryconfusedguy
Heres an update, she landed at her destination, no call, 4 hours later I called her to see if she was ok, she couldnt talk, cut me short saying she would call back and never did, I tried calling her again this morning, as soon as she answered and knew it was me she hung up so my depressed alcoholic partner has run away and I dont know how I can help anymore as she is on the other side of the world.
Just let her go. I'm sorry but in my world anyone who abandones a child isn't worth it!
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ok, its been just over a week, £1400 spent on hotels, she has called me a few times and been nasty and vague with me, I sent an email so that I could get my point across to her, she said that after the misscarraige all she could do was blame herself for having 2 drinks of alcohol and also blamed and resented me where she could not stand me because I had killed our baby, she now knowes she has not been herself and is very sorry for the way she has treated our family, said that she loves me deerly and wants to get on with life, change her mobile/cell number, go and get councelling and go back to work when she gets back on the 8th April, I am not turning this into a blogg/journal, I am thinking know that when some people are depressed etc they are not always text book and everyone is different and has different cases, she has been on prozac for about 5 weeks now and I dont know if its that that's making things better or not drinking as much, I hope this is a happy ending and I wont be back in a few months with something else, thankyou for everybodies support as I have learnt so much from what has happened and other peoples advise.
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ok, my last post was happy, she was coming home and loved me,was so sorry for what she had put everyone through and just wanted to make things right. Wrong, she saw her sister and her sister mentioned thta her parents had been in contact and were also worried, she tool this the wrong way like I was running off to tell tales? I have been 100% supportive throughout the whole year and not kept any secrets and been totally honest about everything, she told me that she hated me and was staying there forever to start a new life, tried to talk some reason and explain that people love her, didnt listen, called me back a ew hours later telling me she still hates me, sounded so drunk, and was coming back in a ew weeks to take our daughter to australia to live with her and her so called ex boyriend and there was nothing whatsoever I could do to stop it because we are not married (wedding cancelled when found out she was pregnant) and I have no chance, kept asking me what I was going to do about it and I didnt answer.....
I dont know what I would do without my daughter especially if she was 20,000 miles away in Australia, I am dreading answering the phone because I never know what is coming next and this is so confusing for me and my daughter, she keeps crying (daughter) and I cant keep making excuses and it really hurts so much.
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Hey guy,
What a knot you are in. Sorry things are not working out the way you would like them to. And your daughter, it must be really difficult for her at such a young age. Maybe being somewhat truthful to her; mommy is trying to figure things out and hopefully someday all will work out. Reassure her you are going no where. I would also think you'd be able to get custody of her instead of her mother. I assume others know what has been going on and can back you up?
Also, to me, it sounds as if she either really doesn't want anything to do with her life with you, or, she enjoys you chasing her? Maybe put it in plain, simple terms that she can come home to her family and seek help, or if she wants to move on with her life she can without you and your daughter. It's not healthy for you to play these games with her. It's only dragging you down even more. You can't make anyone do anything, you need to think about and take care of yourself and your daughter. Maybe some day she will come around, but for now you may have to move on with your own life and do what's best for the both of you, without her.
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Hi, I'm new here. I don't remember if I have ever posted or not but I thought I would offer some hard advice.
This woman is stringing you along. I think you should leave this relationship and not put up with it for one more day. Accept no calls or invitations for contact. It will hurt for a while but then you'll be glad and relieved you left and wonder how you could possibly have put up with it for so long.
Maybe try and keep the relationship with your daughter together with limited contact but regarding the two of you, for your own sanity you should leave. This woman is also in no position to parent effectively.
Use therapists, meds, and whatever support system you have to help you through this. You WILL come out okay on the other side.
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Thankyou again for all your support (all those that have replied), since my last post I cut contact, sent mo more money to her, changed the locks, seeked advise from the courts and solicitors as a back up, didnt speak to her for 4 days so that she would have nobody to chase her or nobody to help her apart from her friends, she called me a few days ago crying, lost, not been taking her meds, been drinking instead of eating and was so sorry and loved us and wants to come home? what a mindblower, she has agreed to seek help when she returns because allot of this is now down to alcohol aswell as depression, not drunk for 2 days (as far as I know) coming home on Wednesday 18/04/07, I feel very numb now and dont really know what to think or say as I really care about her and she is the love of my life but its extra speacial because she is the nother of my child and that will always be the case, I want to help her and I know that she needs to see the docs when she gets back but I will never let myself be treated like a doormat again, I never imagined Depression,alcohol abuse could be like this and have really learnt allot from this website and peoples advise and support, I know its far from over and I know I have already posted a post saying that its all hunky dory and all going to be better but from now till next week is along time and anything can happen again, more relapses etc..................still confused........but little daughter starting to forget and stop asking about mummy, I keep reminding her that mummy still loves her and will be coming home soon but its hard to have a conversation with a 3 year old that cares more for ''land before time'' and dinosaurs!!!
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She could have bipolar brought on by the loss of your unborn baby. I have been through a miscarriage at 3 months, I had a "mini delivery" according to the Dr. It is very hard to handle mentally, and it's pretty traumatic physically as well. I also have a bipolar husband, I was a "veryconfusedgirl" for quite a while. The diagnoses was a relief, atleast I knew what the problem was.
I suggest you go with her to a psychiatrist. I'll be thinking of you, take care!
PS Most bipolars have problems with alcohol before they get diagnosed and on the proper meds.
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Yes me again, she called me form the airport saying 1 hour to go, I called her 2 hours later and she sounded blind drunk and said that she had missed the plane! the pain continues, I have no parental responsibility of my daughter and an unfit mother due to drink and antidepressants! dont know whats going on and have not spoke to her since then, very confusing..AGAIN...
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Yes me AGAIN, 4 days later and still nothing from her, I have been reading and reading all sorts, I have looked at some of her family history and her sister has bipolar disorder and apparantly people with this have alcohol problems before there diagnoised? I may be looking for excuses but I just dont know, our daughter is deverstated because she has not seen her mother for over a month with no contact, apart from when she wants something, her father hads also not heard anything either which is strange because they were very close before all this happened, I dont know what she is doing for money, where she is staying, I have a pretty good Idea!! I dont understand how she can call me form the airport telling me that she has 1 hour till the flight, then misses the flight and doesnt contact whatsoever? god damn it this is confusing, I am trying my best to get on with things but its always on the back of my mind and I just want her to hit rock bottom and have some remorse but on the other hand I dont want her o come back all of a sudden and take our daughter while she is in this state of mind because that would not be fair on anyone, I am just going to have to wait and see I guess.
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hi there confused,
yeah, she is definitely "out of it" with the booze and other "stuff" she may be doing there (i remember you said the guy who just got out of prison was/is an illegal/legal drug user)...her being there is (God forbid) her downfall..and she will def. hit rockbottom soon, but in the meantime, i hope you've contacted a lawyer and explained the situation, so that in case she does come back with the single thought of taking your daughter with her and going back again, you can be prepared to do something, and not let it be a last-minute thing....
i'm very sorry!!! please take care of yourself and of your daughter. the woman chose to do this. nobody pushed her. she probably keeps calling you to see if the door is still open, as it goes....i'm thinking she wasn't even in the airport when she called....she just wanted you to think so!!
again, i'm truly sorry, but please try to find out all that you can do NOW, from the legal aspect, when and if the time comes for her to come back and try to take her/your child with her. she is def. an unfit mother, and she needs help more than anything. that may take a long time, and you never know how it will turn out.
p.s. with the state of mind she's in now and with her past history, i don't think any court would give her custody of a child at this point in time!!!!!!
with best wishes,
dakota
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Thanks Dakota, The ex boyfriend was in prison for killing a passenger in the car while he was drunk and driving! not heard from her in 5 days, her father called me this morning to say that she has also not contacted him and he doesnt know why, her sister has been in contact with her and apparantly she will be getting a flight within the next week, I have contacted a solicitor and they hagve been very helpfull but it will get pretty nasty if/when it goes to court, in the uk of a child is born before december 2003 the father has no parental rights but I can fight for this in court if the worst comes to the worst, I am sure that it will come to this as it feels like I am not being contacted because she obviousilly thinks that I have dont something wrong? I know I havent, our daughter is getting allot better now and not asking for her mummy as much as I am trying to keep us very busy by going out and seeing friends and family, I just want what is right for our daughter and if the mother does decide to come home and get help then I will help her but I know she will come back thinking that the world is against her and she is pretty convincing about things so I really dont know whats up her sleeve next but I do know for sure that she is being a very bad mother by leaving our daughter for a total of nearly 2 months this year and not caring about anyone but number 1. will have to see what happens next and I hope it doesnt get too messy. I have been taking a herbal remedy called Calms for the last few months and I think that these have really helped me as I have stopped having panic attacks and they do what they say on the bottle..
Thanks again
Giuseppe
Last edited by veryconfusedguy; 04-22-2007 at 05:53 AM.
Re: The docs say my partners depressed but theres more to it!
hi giuseppe,
at least that herbal remedy has worked for your anxiety, so that's good!!
what did the solicitor tell you?
if i were you, i'd try to find any and all pieces of "evidence" (any past hospitalizations, drug/alcohol use, other neglectful behavior towards her daughter-- like what she's been doing for the past two months) --that i could about her being not "well," just in case this may go to court in the future.
if you feel she hasn't contacted you because you've "done something wrong," then it's truly completely and utterly wrong of her to leave the child alone with you for such a long time!!! (i'm only saying this for your information, and i don't mean to say you've actually done s.thing wrong). i would gess this would be considered neglect (on her part) from the authorithies' point of view!!!!
also, if you think that she may use anything at all against you, since she knows you the best, and it seems the woman can turn things around with little effort, then you must be very honest with your solicitor!!! he/she must know everything, in order to know how to proceed and what to tell you to do, if you do intend to go for custody of your daughter. i'm not sure i remember if you are legally married or not...
do you think her father would stand behind you in all of this?
i am hoping she will come back and be willing to get the help she needs, since she most definitely needs a lot of help now!!!!
p.s. it's good that you're engaging in all these activities with your daughter, by going out and seeing relatives and friends, and playing with her. the more attached she becomes to you and the happier she is, the better for her, and ultimately, the better for you in the future!!!!
God bless, and keep us updated!!!
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Last edited by Dakota_Skye; 04-22-2007 at 07:36 AM.
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Thanks again Dakota
My solicitor said that it is a pretty fast thing and I need to take the papers to court and they get a temporary injunction against my daughter leavinbg the country until the case goes to court but as soon as I hand the courts papers in they get a private investigator to personally hand the papers to my so called Fiance then the court date is set, they can temporary allow custody of my daughter with me until she has been anaylised by a doctor but once the papers are handed to her then there is no turning back as we would need to goto vourt nomatter what happens as the child may be at risk etc, I have not done this yet mainly because of the costs of the solicitors and with the trips to Australia, spending etc this has been around £5000-£8000 in total so its affected us in more ways than one, I can also contact social services when she gets back to demand that she sees a doctor before she can just alk back into my daughters life, I am still holding hope for my daughter to have a stable mother BUT I am NOT holding hope for the relationship I had before because this has been going on for 4 months now and I am sick of chasing and trying to make her better if she obviousilly doesnt want my help and has also turned into a person that has lied to us, let us down, cheated (well will se about that) and just been so cold and nasty with everyone only putting herself first.
Last edited by veryconfusedguy; 04-22-2007 at 12:53 PM.
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hi confused,
well, i think you've done everything you could do so far! you've gotten the information you need, and you're set to go. if you can contact social services and "demand" that she sees a doctor before she can spend time with her child, well, that's good! i didn't know this can be done!
i'm glad that you are firm in your decisions now. before, in your other posts, you still held out hope, but now i can see that you won't allow for this person to be in your life anymore, the way she has treated both you and her/your daughter. and you're right, a child should definitely have "access" to her mother, but not if this would be more disruptive to that child!! good thinking, and good for you!!!
about the cheating--from my point of view, i wouldn't say she did not. after all, he was her boyfriend before, and you know how people get when they're using. i'm sorry to say it this, but i can't help but think it. it's just my opinion, and you don't have to believe it whatsoever!!!
p.s. the amount of money spent with those trips to australia is pretty incredible...
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