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Old 10-19-2004, 01:56 PM   #1
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Energy Problems Help !!

Hello, I'm a healthy 26 year old man . I've been working out since i was 22. i was a heavy cigarette smoker from 16 to 22 . at which point i quit smoking and started doing weight lifting. though ever since about 16 i've had my current problem. my metabolism is VERY fast . dangerously fast. i have had times before where by accidently missing 1 meal i end up passing out.

many many many others i get very dizzy, light headed. i see spots before my eyes. and my hands go numb.

i have literally had days where i ate over 4,000 calories and passed out. one such day was when i got home from work at 5. started dinner, when to check email. i got up to check on dinner and when walking into my kitchen i passed out . only to awaken on the floor not really knowing what happened.

i recently broke my ankle this summer so i had to stop working out. now that i'm recovered i'm hitting the weights again. i have a Very hard time gaining weight now. and i get Very dizzy sometimes after completing a set.

i have gone in to the doctors to have my Thyroid gland checked, and to test me for diabetis. they say i'm fine. my vital stats are good enough for an olympic. standing heart reat of about 62 blood pressure was like 110/70 or something . i look very fit . people usually guess i'm about 175 or 180, but i actually only weight 160 . Oh i'm 5' 11" bare foot. i used to only weight 125-130 from 16 to 22. which i'm sure was becuase i was inactive and smoking cigarettes. (i was also only 5' 10" until age 22-23 i grew i afer i quit the butts)

now my diet is acording to FDA terms fantastic. breakfast is my only failing. usually i consume a protien shake cuase i don't allot more time in the moring. so i get 2 servings of whole or 2% milk. along with 300 calories from the shake. its got i think 41 grams of carbs and 20 ish of protien. combine that from the 300 calories 16 grams of protien/carb form the milk. not to mention i add a measuring cup of berries to that. i snack at work. eat a huge lunch. say a footlong sub from subway (3 days a week probally) or a bunch of tacos from taco bell (not the best but chicken soft shelled are not that high in fat as you'de think. WAY better then mcdonalds) i snack a nuts and fruit a lot. i'm sure i get 3-4 servings of fruit every day probally more. i tend to eat meat and potatoes for dinner. along with corn, carrots, brocoli. stir fry vegies. or i'll steam assorted frozen vegies. though i'm probally only hitting 2-4 servings of vegies. i also take multi-vitamans. i don't even like the taste of junk food so i don't touch the stuff. some days i can eat over 4,000 calories. and i still pass out.

What's wrong ??? i soooo don't understand it. i have just read a new book called "the maker's diet" though i haven't tried it yet. It basically explains about digetsion and micro-organisms that aid us in digestion... like maybe i'm eating all this food but i'm not absorbing enough nutrients from it becuase i don't have enough enzymes in my digestive track. and non-organic food does not contain normal levels of those... anyone a nutritionist who understands enzymes and absorbing digetsing our food ?

could it be my body is not grabbing what it should from the food i eat ?

any help would be greatly appriciated.

 
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Re: Energy Problems Help !!

Sounds to me like you have Reactive Hypoglycemia (RH). The best place to discuss this is "upstairs" one level in the Diabetes forum. There are already some active threads on this condition. I will gladly meet you there to help as I have lots of experience with this condition.

Here is the down and dirty on RH...
RH is a precursor to diabetes - a chronic metabolic disorder that is often not recognized or treated by the medical community. Unless you have a doctor who is nutritionally savvy or has a more holistic approach to health, you will likley not get treatment from a medical doctor.

Reactive Hypoglycemia is caused by a completely imbalanced metabolism. In simple terms, your body overproduces insulin in response to elevated blood glucose levels, and when your blood glucose bottoms out, your body overproduces cortisol in an effort to raise the blood glucose levels back up. The excess insulin causes shakiness, lightheadedness, dizziness, passing out, numbness and tingling, etc... and the excess cortisol can cause stress, anxiety, and often, panic symptoms.

RH typically occurs in the twentysomething age group and is brought about by poor eating habits. This could be a combination of eating carb-heavy foods, high fat meals, lots of sugar (even from fruit), fast food, etc, or from keeping a really bad meal schedule (skipping meals or working out on empty). College students and those who recently moved out on their own are at risk because the eating habits tend to be poor. But ANYONE can get this and it does take a bit opf focus and discipline to recover.

There is no medication that will cure RH - but you can overcome it if you make some lifestyle changes. The primary goal in a treatment plan is to rebalance the metabolism. Here are important steps to take NOW that will provide immediate relief:
1. Eat a small meal or snack EVERY 2 hours, regardless if you are hungry, starting when you awaken in the morning and continuing until bedtime. After you stabilize you will be able to eat every 3 hours, but you need to first gain control. This meal/snack must contain a combination of carbs and protein - preferably from high quality foods. Make sure your protein levels are adequate - about 30% of total calorie consumption with every meal/snack.

2. Eliminate ALL junk food and for now omit all bread (rolls, croissant, muffins, cakes, pastry, cookies, etc), pasta, potatoes, and all sugar products. Your carbs should consist of fresh vegetables, low-sugar fruits (apple, strawberry, blueberry - but not orange, banana, grape), beans, nuts, seeds, soy, brown rice, and whole grains (but not bread - for example triscuits or shredded wheat cereal are okay)

3. Do NOT drink juice or soda of any kind.

4. For now, skip the protein shakes for several reasons. Get your nutrients from real whole fresh foods. Drinking calories can cause the glucose levels to spike - you need to avoid this. There also may be ingredients in there that are causing you glucose to spike and plummet.

5. Make sure that you have a meal or snack 30-60 minutes before you excercise. Have a snack with you at all times and keep it handy during excercise (in your pocket if possible). If you feel like you are going to pass out, eat your carb/protein snack immediately, drink at least 12 oz of water, and do not resume excercise until 30-45 minutes has passed.

6. Make sure you are eating enough calories spread out evenly throughout the day. In other words, you can't eat 200 calories for breakfast and lunch and then 1000 calories for dinner!

7. Stay well hydrated. Drink pure water where ever possible.
It is possible that you do not have RH and that something else is wrong, but your symptoms, as you describe them, are "textbook RH." In any case, applying the abopve strategies will not hurt you in any way if it turns out to be another problem, so there is no risk in trying to see if this works. Results will not be immediate, and there are other important things to understand, but I will not get into that here.

Good luck, and meet me "upstairs" if you want further discussion on RH

 
Old 10-19-2004, 03:58 PM   #3
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Re: Energy Problems Help !!

oh yes i do drink a lot of coffee and soda. at least a cup a day or i'll get a nasty head ache.

and a few other things i've noted about my own metaboilsm is that yes often when i eat a lot of carbs i find that I get hungry Very soon after, and feel almost as if i didn't eat anything. for a short , very short while i tried to eat more carbs in the morning. one day even trying just a bowl of rice . but that definatly seemed to make things worse for me.
by upstairs for RH you mean i go up one forum topic? i'll peak around and look for that . or one more thread up is that one?

(i'm just now returning from lunch i ate a foot long sub @ subway and i almost feel hungry allready and ever so slightly light headed. )
i'll definatly read up on RH . it does sound in line with what my problems are. oddly i seem to have the light headed problem more with weight lifting then say basketball. though i think weight lifting puts bigger spikes on your body burning up energy then basketball does.

i'm not sure what normal body weight fluctuations are suppost to be. in the last 3 weeks i've weighted myself ... way to much . but i've ranged between 156 and 166 (actually all with in a week i've ranged that much) i'm not very consitant about weighting before/after a big meal water or going to the bathroom. i just sorta think that's odd , but then again maybe its very normal ... ?

well yeah i'll defaintly look for that thread

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Re: Energy Problems Help !!

btw thaks for all the concerned views, and for the advise

 
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Re: Energy Problems Help !!

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Originally Posted by Kiowas72
oh yes i do drink a lot of coffee and soda. at least a cup a day or i'll get a nasty head ache.

and a few other things i've noted about my own metaboilsm is that yes often when i eat a lot of carbs i find that I get hungry Very soon after, and feel almost as if i didn't eat anything. for a short , very short while i tried to eat more carbs in the morning. one day even trying just a bowl of rice . but that definatly seemed to make things worse for me.
by upstairs for RH you mean i go up one forum topic? i'll peak around and look for that . or one more thread up is that one?

(i'm just now returning from lunch i ate a foot long sub @ subway and i almost feel hungry allready and ever so slightly light headed. )
i'll definatly read up on RH . it does sound in line with what my problems are. oddly i seem to have the light headed problem more with weight lifting then say basketball. though i think weight lifting puts bigger spikes on your body burning up energy then basketball does.
well yeah i'll defaintly look for that thread
Up one forum topic!

And yes - weight lifting will cause stronger RH reaction than any other activity. Nothing burns through glucose faster than a muscle workout.

 
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