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Old 10-19-2004, 12:56 PM   #1
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Energy Problems Help !!

Hello, I'm a healthy 26 year old man . I've been working out since i was 22. i was a heavy cigarette smoker from 16 to 22 . at which point i quit smoking and started doing weight lifting. though ever since about 16 i've had my current problem. my metabolism is VERY fast . dangerously fast. i have had times before where by accidently missing 1 meal i end up passing out.

many many many others i get very dizzy, light headed. i see spots before my eyes. and my hands go numb.

i have literally had days where i ate over 4,000 calories and passed out. one such day was when i got home from work at 5. started dinner, when to check email. i got up to check on dinner and when walking into my kitchen i passed out . only to awaken on the floor not really knowing what happened.

i recently broke my ankle this summer so i had to stop working out. now that i'm recovered i'm hitting the weights again. i have a Very hard time gaining weight now. and i get Very dizzy sometimes after completing a set.

i have gone in to the doctors to have my Thyroid gland checked, and to test me for diabetis. they say i'm fine. my vital stats are good enough for an olympic. standing heart reat of about 62 blood pressure was like 110/70 or something . i look very fit . people usually guess i'm about 175 or 180, but i actually only weight 160 . Oh i'm 5' 11" bare foot. i used to only weight 125-130 from 16 to 22. which i'm sure was becuase i was inactive and smoking cigarettes. (i was also only 5' 10" until age 22-23 i grew i afer i quit the butts)

now my diet is acording to FDA terms fantastic. breakfast is my only failing. usually i consume a protien shake cuase i don't allot more time in the moring. so i get 2 servings of whole or 2% milk. along with 300 calories from the shake. its got i think 41 grams of carbs and 20 ish of protien. combine that from the 300 calories 16 grams of protien/carb form the milk. not to mention i add a measuring cup of berries to that. i snack at work. eat a huge lunch. say a footlong sub from subway (3 days a week probally) or a bunch of tacos from taco bell (not the best but chicken soft shelled are not that high in fat as you'de think. WAY better then mcdonalds) i snack a nuts and fruit a lot. i'm sure i get 3-4 servings of fruit every day probally more. i tend to eat meat and potatoes for dinner. along with corn, carrots, brocoli. stir fry vegies. or i'll steam assorted frozen vegies. though i'm probally only hitting 2-4 servings of vegies. i also take multi-vitamans. i don't even like the taste of junk food so i don't touch the stuff. some days i can eat over 4,000 calories. and i still pass out.

What's wrong ??? i soooo don't understand it. i have just read a new book called "the maker's diet" though i haven't tried it yet. It basically explains about digetsion and micro-organisms that aid us in digestion... like maybe i'm eating all this food but i'm not absorbing enough nutrients from it becuase i don't have enough enzymes in my digestive track. and non-organic food does not contain normal levels of those... anyone a nutritionist who understands enzymes and absorbing digetsing our food ?

could it be my body is not grabbing what it should from the food i eat ?

any help would be greatly appriciated.

 
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:35 PM   #2
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Sounds to me like you have Reactive Hypoglycemia (RH). The best place to discuss this is "upstairs" one level in the Diabetes forum. There are already some active threads on this condition. I will gladly meet you there to help as I have lots of experience with this condition.

Here is the down and dirty on RH...
RH is a precursor to diabetes - a chronic metabolic disorder that is often not recognized or treated by the medical community. Unless you have a doctor who is nutritionally savvy or has a more holistic approach to health, you will likley not get treatment from a medical doctor.

Reactive Hypoglycemia is caused by a completely imbalanced metabolism. In simple terms, your body overproduces insulin in response to elevated blood glucose levels, and when your blood glucose bottoms out, your body overproduces cortisol in an effort to raise the blood glucose levels back up. The excess insulin causes shakiness, lightheadedness, dizziness, passing out, numbness and tingling, etc... and the excess cortisol can cause stress, anxiety, and often, panic symptoms.

RH typically occurs in the twentysomething age group and is brought about by poor eating habits. This could be a combination of eating carb-heavy foods, high fat meals, lots of sugar (even from fruit), fast food, etc, or from keeping a really bad meal schedule (skipping meals or working out on empty). College students and those who recently moved out on their own are at risk because the eating habits tend to be poor. But ANYONE can get this and it does take a bit opf focus and discipline to recover.

There is no medication that will cure RH - but you can overcome it if you make some lifestyle changes. The primary goal in a treatment plan is to rebalance the metabolism. Here are important steps to take NOW that will provide immediate relief:
1. Eat a small meal or snack EVERY 2 hours, regardless if you are hungry, starting when you awaken in the morning and continuing until bedtime. After you stabilize you will be able to eat every 3 hours, but you need to first gain control. This meal/snack must contain a combination of carbs and protein - preferably from high quality foods. Make sure your protein levels are adequate - about 30% of total calorie consumption with every meal/snack.

2. Eliminate ALL junk food and for now omit all bread (rolls, croissant, muffins, cakes, pastry, cookies, etc), pasta, potatoes, and all sugar products. Your carbs should consist of fresh vegetables, low-sugar fruits (apple, strawberry, blueberry - but not orange, banana, grape), beans, nuts, seeds, soy, brown rice, and whole grains (but not bread - for example triscuits or shredded wheat cereal are okay)

3. Do NOT drink juice or soda of any kind.

4. For now, skip the protein shakes for several reasons. Get your nutrients from real whole fresh foods. Drinking calories can cause the glucose levels to spike - you need to avoid this. There also may be ingredients in there that are causing you glucose to spike and plummet.

5. Make sure that you have a meal or snack 30-60 minutes before you excercise. Have a snack with you at all times and keep it handy during excercise (in your pocket if possible). If you feel like you are going to pass out, eat your carb/protein snack immediately, drink at least 12 oz of water, and do not resume excercise until 30-45 minutes has passed.

6. Make sure you are eating enough calories spread out evenly throughout the day. In other words, you can't eat 200 calories for breakfast and lunch and then 1000 calories for dinner!

7. Stay well hydrated. Drink pure water where ever possible.
It is possible that you do not have RH and that something else is wrong, but your symptoms, as you describe them, are "textbook RH." In any case, applying the abopve strategies will not hurt you in any way if it turns out to be another problem, so there is no risk in trying to see if this works. Results will not be immediate, and there are other important things to understand, but I will not get into that here.

Good luck, and meet me "upstairs" if you want further discussion on RH

 
Old 10-19-2004, 02:58 PM   #3
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oh yes i do drink a lot of coffee and soda. at least a cup a day or i'll get a nasty head ache.

and a few other things i've noted about my own metaboilsm is that yes often when i eat a lot of carbs i find that I get hungry Very soon after, and feel almost as if i didn't eat anything. for a short , very short while i tried to eat more carbs in the morning. one day even trying just a bowl of rice . but that definatly seemed to make things worse for me.
by upstairs for RH you mean i go up one forum topic? i'll peak around and look for that . or one more thread up is that one?

(i'm just now returning from lunch i ate a foot long sub @ subway and i almost feel hungry allready and ever so slightly light headed. )
i'll definatly read up on RH . it does sound in line with what my problems are. oddly i seem to have the light headed problem more with weight lifting then say basketball. though i think weight lifting puts bigger spikes on your body burning up energy then basketball does.

i'm not sure what normal body weight fluctuations are suppost to be. in the last 3 weeks i've weighted myself ... way to much . but i've ranged between 156 and 166 (actually all with in a week i've ranged that much) i'm not very consitant about weighting before/after a big meal water or going to the bathroom. i just sorta think that's odd , but then again maybe its very normal ... ?

well yeah i'll defaintly look for that thread

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Old 10-19-2004, 03:05 PM   #4
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Re: Energy Problems Help !!

btw thaks for all the concerned views, and for the advise

 
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oh yes i do drink a lot of coffee and soda. at least a cup a day or i'll get a nasty head ache.

and a few other things i've noted about my own metaboilsm is that yes often when i eat a lot of carbs i find that I get hungry Very soon after, and feel almost as if i didn't eat anything. for a short , very short while i tried to eat more carbs in the morning. one day even trying just a bowl of rice . but that definatly seemed to make things worse for me.
by upstairs for RH you mean i go up one forum topic? i'll peak around and look for that . or one more thread up is that one?

(i'm just now returning from lunch i ate a foot long sub @ subway and i almost feel hungry allready and ever so slightly light headed. )
i'll definatly read up on RH . it does sound in line with what my problems are. oddly i seem to have the light headed problem more with weight lifting then say basketball. though i think weight lifting puts bigger spikes on your body burning up energy then basketball does.
well yeah i'll defaintly look for that thread
Up one forum topic!

And yes - weight lifting will cause stronger RH reaction than any other activity. Nothing burns through glucose faster than a muscle workout.

 
Old 10-19-2004, 03:26 PM   #6
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Yeah i've been reading that RH thread. sounds more and more in line of what i may have.. given that i've allready gone in to my doctor and all i got was "eat more" (even though at the time i told my doctor i eat every time i was hungry and couldn't) should i go into a nutritionist ? or what type of specialist is going to actually help?

sounds like if this is my problem its diet related and i don't want to be given some prescription and sent home. or told i can't work out / gain weight .. setting new strenght and body weight goals and achieving them gives me a lot of sastifaction.

 
Old 10-19-2004, 03:53 PM   #7
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i have a cousin thats exactly like you only female..she never had energy just like you she went to see a dietition and, she told her to eleminate wheat and, grains to replace them with soy flour..exapmle: soy bread, soy snacks, everything soy also the pasta....she feels aloooot better ever since..its been over on e year now..and, she will never go back to eat like she was before..k
hope that helped..bye

 
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Yeah i've been reading that RH thread. sounds more and more in line of what i may have.. given that i've allready gone in to my doctor and all i got was "eat more" (even though at the time i told my doctor i eat every time i was hungry and couldn't) should i go into a nutritionist ? or what type of specialist is going to actually help?

sounds like if this is my problem its diet related and i don't want to be given some prescription and sent home. or told i can't work out / gain weight .. setting new strenght and body weight goals and achieving them gives me a lot of sastifaction.
It might help to see a nutritional counselor, but shop for one carefully. Make sure they have experience with RH. You might want to get some referrals from others. Are you in the US? If so, what state?

Regardless, you will not be given a prescription - there isn't one to give. This IS completely diet controlled, although there are supplements that will help you through this. First of all, make sure your multivitamin is comprised of high quality, natural source supplements. You want one with NO sugar, starch, binders, etc. Twin Lab makes excellent supplements that meet this criteria, but there are others. Additional supplements that will help support your metabolism include Chromium (200 mcg per day), a B-Complex (specific B vitamins to include are B3 and B6), magnesium (340 mg per day) and MASSIVE doses of Vitamin C (6000 mg per day!). Inositol is known to help control glucose levels as well as anxiety symptoms, which may indirectly help you since these symptoms are all tied to RH. Always choose natural supplements over synthetics - usually this means you cannot buy them in the grocery or local chain store.

I think I read that you drink lots of milk - you need to cut back. Milk is not only high in carbs/sugars, but it can deplete your system of magnesium, which can cause glucose levels to drop. There are so many little things like this, its impossible to cover them all. The bottom line is that you will benefit by applying as many strategies as you can to overcome this. Some people need to be quite strict, while others simply need to cut out the fast food and eat smaller portions more often throughout the day. Only with trial and error will you know for sure.

Anyway, I can help you a little further with diet, but first need to know your age, height, weight, and precise activity level and activity schedule. Also, tell me what your existing diet schedule has been like - I already know WHAT you eat, but I am asking how much and how often do you eat. How long between meals. That sort of info.

 
Old 10-20-2004, 10:39 AM   #9
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allrighty ! and thanks a bunch for the Help

I'm 5' 11" bare foot. just in the last week alone i've varied from 158 to 164 on the scale naked. (when clothes most peeps guess i'm like 175 though )

I am very active. my schedual changes from summer to winter when i can start snowboarding. but for non-winter i weight lift 4 days a week (mon-tues, rest on wednesday and thurs-friay) each day is a unique muscle group. I will also tend to play basketball between 2 -6 hours a week. and i will often enjoy some mountain biking , swimming, tenis on the weekends. depending on which friend i can talk into some physical activiy. i would figure i get a solid 4 hours of weight lifting and 5 to 15 hours of areobic a week.

last say 4 weeks i've been on this plan rather faithfully
breakfast is 16 ounces of milk with 1/2 a serving of Nlarge2 weight gainer (that amount is aprox 40 grams carbs, and 20 grams of protien) i'll add in 1-2 cups of frozen berries .
i'll have coffee at work. perhaps an apple or muffin for a snack
lunch is a footlong from subway (usually with extra cheese) or maybe 5 soft tacos from tacobell (some chicken) . sometimes i will get chineese or get a fancy sandwitch from a nice little cafe around the corner. i get salad with that.
I'll usualy snack on fruit and nuts int he afternoon. work out on an emtpy stomache ( probally not the best but i'm usually not hungry right at 5 so i'll work out and end up very hungry by 6, 6:30 ) dinner i try to have meat and potatoes along with asorted vegies. like cube steak , potatoes , carrtoes, brocoli, or steamed vegies. artichoke. i do eat a TON of red meat. almost all beef. and i'll have an other shake as i descrbied before bed. just looking at all the Raw ingridants of everything i eat. i would think i am getting everything i need. But apparently i'm not absorbing enough or my body isn't reacting well to my diet .

last night when working out i only had 1 slight moment of a little bit of dizziness and it subsided rather quickly. I don't go home or quit working out when that happens cuase honestly that could reduce my complete work outs to maybe 1 a week so i thought it would be best to fight through it and just sit down when ever that happens. though if its really bad (where i actally fear passing out) i will go home. usually its just a moment or two of dizzyness along with numb hands.

I definatly seem to get Very Very Cranky when i'm hungry too. too the degree i'm almost a different person when i'm feeling "starved" which could be as little as 2 hours after a meal...

i eat a LOT of peanuts at home. i eat some of them with the shell (i like the way it feels ) i'll like 1/2 deshell them . or fully deshell one and then eat an other with the shell on. (extra fiber?) bannas , apples and pairs though i try to mix up the fruit i purchase.
I do seem to have very regular bowel movents. when i first wake up . and then i'de say 60 minutes ish after lunch. and usualyl a 3rd one sometime at night though not always. (i don't know if that is a sign food is passing through me too fast ? ) the shakes add up to 1200 calories (not counting the berries in them) . lunch and dinner have to be in the 1,000s so i figure i must be eating no less then 3,200 a day probally more like 3500 to 4000 ...

i do manage to make some strenght gains at the gym, despite not being able to gain weight. but i imagine that can only go on so long . i've been stuck at my current weight for about 2 years now.. though i have been very on and off with the gym.

I've been doing some reading on goats milk . (raw goats milk) seems the human body digests it faster , it has less lactose, and more L-glutamine . though less folic acid. is that gonna be any better or milk is just not going to be good for me ? (ironic how much milk i've drank growing up. my parents used to have to force me to drink orange juice at breakfast, or i would litteraly pour a glass of milk to drink with my milk drowned cereal)

 
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I do see some immediate problems that should probably be addressed! Before I go on, I do want to clarify that obviously you cannot be diagnosed through a message board. The only way to know for sure if you really are suffering from RH would be to have a 5-hour Glucose Tolerance Test, or buy a glucose monitor and start testing at home before meals and then every 30-60 minutes after meals to chart your glucose levels yourself. For now, I am assuming RH is your problem as all your symptoms point to this.

I also want to clarify something based on a comment you made in your last post. You stated that you think you are not absorbing your nutrients or somehow not benefiting from the food you eat. I don't believe that this is the case, unless something else is going on. You are likely getting ALL the nutrients you would expect to get from your diet. RH is not about malabsorption of nutrients. It is strictly an issue of increased insulin production (in response to excessive carb consumption) resulting in low glucose levels, which triggers the symptoms you describe.

Lets look at your breakfast - The N-large2 powder is DEFINATELY contributing to your symptoms. It is EXTREMELY high carb and it's primary ingredient is maltodextrine which is a corn-based equivalent to pure dextrose. 1/2 serving is 45 carbs grams. 2 cups of milk is 30 carb grams. 2 cups of sweetened frozen berries is alone, over 100 carb grams! If the berries are unsweetened, closer to 30 carb grams. In a best case scenario, you are getting about 100 carb grams with breakfast - in a worst case scenario you may be getting 175-200 carb grams with breakfast! YIKES!

This breakfast, alone, is setting the stage for a glucose roller-coaster ride you will be on ALL day. Your morning snack is primarily carb - a muffin or apple and your body is probably craving these carbs as a result of your breakfast. The Subway foot-long sub has close to 100 carb grams - also a really high amount. The reason you are starving 2 hours after you eat is because your body has kicked in the insulin production (to compensate for the excess carbs you eat) and this causes your glucose levels to plummet. The more carbs you eat, the worse your symptoms will get, yet the symptoms cause you to eat more carbs to feel better, and then, more symptoms. Its a viscious cycle that needs to be broken.

The other thing I will comment on is that you said you try to work through the spells when you are working out. You cannot do this - it is EXTREMELY dangerous. They will not pass. Your body may attempt to recover from low glucose levels by increasing cortisol production, which in turn does trigger the release of some glucose into the bloodstream, but this is not an ideal scenario and it will only work to some extent. If you really push yourself too hard you could end up in a coma. When you feel the symptoms coming on you MUST stop all activity, eat, drink water, and wait for the glucose from your snack to be reabsorbed into your bloodstream. I also recommend that you explain to someone at your gym what's going on in case there is an emergency.

Low blood glucose levels are known to cause "personality changes" - another symptom you describe. Some people get so low they cannot remember who they are or where they are until the glucose levels return to normal ranges. You really need to be careful.

The best advice I can give you is that your diet must focus on stablilizing the glucose levels and breaking this cycle of carb dependency. You must prevent your glucose from spiking and falling as it has been. This will require a significant change in your diet. There are some simple rules you can apply to your diet that will help you gain control of your symptoms. I will post a recommendation later this evening (don't have time right now!). Don't worry - nothing too drastic at first.

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Old 10-20-2004, 03:05 PM   #11
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Thanks a bunch ..

yeah last night i had cube steak (organic buffolo) with a huge pile of brocoli . and then some raw sunflower seeds later. but i had some milk and muffin for breakfast... i need to figure out what i should try eating and sorta make a breakfast plan. the shake worked well cuase i could make it , drink it, and clean up all in 10 minutes. sounds likes i'll need to figure something completly else for breakfast though ...

I have an other meal suppliment . Myoplex i belive it is, that contains no carbs. i was using that before switching over. i don't know that i've seeen a huge diffence. well i guess my sytoms are a bit worse now. i more contributed that to my 4 months i was not working out (ankle injury) and my return to the gym. it does sorta seem that day after day its not as bad. then again maybe its depending on weather i eat taco bell or subway that day (actualy eat them both about 2 days a week for lunch ) and i know the taco bell isn't good for me but i figured a few times a week. heck maybe its better then the subway in my case cuase it has way less carbs.

 
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i ate some Eggs and Kefir this morning. last night i didn't feel too great. i had a beer on an empty tummy while watching some baseball and it really hit me fast. my friend later told me beer has Maltose the greatest insulin spiker of them all .. doh ! does that mean no more beer ?

 
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why do you want to drink beer..?? thats a waste of money...there is also malt in the beer, its loaded with crap..hmm really money not spent wisely..IMO/ ok bye..

 
Old 10-21-2004, 02:23 PM   #14
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btw thanks Losec20mg I'll try looking into more Soy stuff or at least avoiding the traditional carbs

uhm i actually really enjoy the taste of Sierra nevada and tend to drink 1-2 beers during a sporting event. such as last nights red sox vs yankees game. Yeah its not good for me and i actually try to not drink on days i weight lift (just trying to get the most out of working out) Figured i should conclude everything i consume , even if beer is on the list.

but yeah. when i don't drink for serval weeks i don't really notice any difference on me when i work out.

 
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Sorry for the delay...

Here I am offering a detailed recommendation that will require a bit of work on your part, but will likely result in complete elimination of all your symptoms and improve your health. I will only add that if you continue eating as you have been you may become a diabetic - you need to do everything you can to prevent that from happening. Also, my recommendation is that you try this type of diet ofr a period of 4 weeks and see how it goes. If you feel 100% better, then you can perhaps gradually add additional foods back in, but as soon as your symptoms return, you will have a failry clear picture of what you did that triggered them.

I am assuming that you probably need to consume about 3200-3500 calories per day, based on your physical structure and activity level. You don't need to count calories or change the quantity of food you are eating. But you do need to ration the amount of carbs, especially sugars, you consume in an effort to stabilize your glucose levels. Try applying the following rules to your diet for the next 4 weeks and see how you feel.
1. Eat 6-7X per day, every 2 - 2.5 hours. An example of a meal schedule might be: 7:30am (breakfast), 10am (snack), 12:30pm (lunch). 3pm (small snack), 4:30pm (important snack before workout!), 6:30pm (dinner), 9pm (snack). The purpose of this frequent eating schedule is an attempt to rebalance the metabolism and stabilize the glucose levels. You want to avoid your symptoms before they occur. This means you can NEVER be running on empty.

2. Limit your carb consumption to no more than 50g in any meal and no more than 30g in any snack, with the exception of the 4:30 snack which can have 50 carb grams because of your muscle workout. So for example if you follow the above schedule you would have:

7:30 am - 50 carb g with breakfast
10am - 30 carb g snack
12:30 - 50 carb g with lunch
3pm - 30 carb g snack
4:30 - 50 carb g snack
6:30 - 50 carb g dinner
9pm - 30 carb g snack

Also note these are maximums - its okay to have less carbs, but I suspect you will struggle a bit at first to meet these numbers.

Some people may look at this and think this is still WAY too many carbs, and for most of us it would be. But for you, it is cutting your carb consumption down by 1/3 or 1/2 and aiming at a carb consumption of 40-45% of your total calories.

3. You must never eat carbs without a decent portion of protein. For example, no muffin or apple unless you also include protein like nuts, meat, or cheese.

4. Omit from your diet wherever possible all sugars, muffins, donuts, cakes, candy, sweetened fruits (frozen or canned, for example),honey, molasses, and table sugar. Also omit alcohol, especially beer (if you do have alcohol that COUNTS towards your carbs!). Ingredients to omit in packaged foods include corn syrup. dextrose, fructose, sugar, molasses, honey - so you will have to read labels and be more aware.. In looking at your current diet, I don't think you need to eliminate bread, rice, pasta, or potatoes. But you do need to measure your portions of these foods carefully in order to stick to the carb quantities listed above. Choose breads that do not have sugar, honey, and molasses added - always be aware of how many carb grams are in the bread you eat and everything else you eat. You can use the USDA food database to determine how many carbs are in a variety of foods you eat. You can google search "USDA Food Data."

5. Some veggies are "free" meaning you can have as many as you want and they don't count towards your carbs. These include lettuce, cucumber, onion, spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, squash. Some veggies are higher in sugar and starch and DO need to be counted towards your carbs. These include corn, peas, carrots, beans, potatoes, tomatoes, nuts, seeds, etc.

6. Eat whole fresh fruits with a low glycemic index including apples, pears, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries. Do not eat oranges, grapefruit, bananas, pineapple, grapes. Never eat sweetened fruit such as canned or frozen. No fruit juice AT ALL! Also remember that you must count all fruits towards your carbs.

7. Remember that you are not trying to reduce or control calories - just carbs/sugars. So this means you need to eat more protein and fat to maintain your calories. Eat lots of meat, chicken, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese - as much as you want. Include nuts and cheese with your snacks.
Keep in mind that you need to be aware of the food you eat when you are out. Most 6" subway subs contain 45-50 carb grams, so its safe to assume that a 1 footer has 100 or more carb grams. I looked up the Taco Bell soft tacos - 5 of them has 105 carbs. I will tell you that I definately do not recommend eating these foods, however, given a choice, your best bet is to have a 6" subway sub at lunch and another one at 4:30 before your workout - but do not eat a 1 footer all at once! Also, skip the chinese food - lots of carbs in the sauce (corn starch) as well as MSG, sugar, and then the rice. Better off avoiding it for now.

This gives you some stuff to work with for now. If you want I can post some carb portions of foods so you have an idea of how much certain carbs ou can eat.at any given time. Your life will be much easier if you avoid foods where nutritional info is not available for example eating italian food out in a restaurant. Always choose foods that have carbs listed on the label or where you can look up values on the web (like Subway, for example). Remember that beverages contain carbs like milk, beer, sodapop - you MUST keep track of quantities and count them towards your carb quota.

I really believe that this will help you feel better. This is not a strict method of controlling RH, but I do believe this will be effective for you.

 
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