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Old 06-26-2005, 10:20 AM   #21
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Re: conflicting info - soy products in diet good or bad?

I won't quote the Lenin post from above ... for several reasons. 1. length 2. it is just cut and paste Soy propaganda. I didn't see any information about aluminum contamination (1000's of times higher than breast milk) excitotoxins that are known to destroy brain tissue especially the hippocampus, the adverse effects of isoflavones and its estrogenic effects, or how about the haemaggluttins, or high phytates or maybe the protease inhibitors. One thing is sure, the soy that is eaten today was an industrial invention that is quite recent and bears no relation to the fermented products consumed in traditional asian diets. What about the study that found a relationship with soy use and early onset dementia? There is a reason for the Japanese folk wisdom that says to feed a wayward husband tofu (yeah, cuts down his libido). Think about this, the very isoflavones that soy proponents say can help with menopausal symptoms (estrogen effects) are also supposed to be good for males, children and infants of both sexes. This is rubbish. Soy, its oil, and the waste that becomes the various soy components of just about every packaged food is not fit for human consumption. Indeed it is not fit for animal consumption, Parrot owners found soy feed produced beak deformities, early coloration (maturation) and infertility, the same infertility has been documented in cheetahs on soy feed. There are recent accounts of infertility in humans because of soy use. The dangers to your thyroid are clear, as little as 1 cup of soy milk a day can cause measurable changes in blood Thyroid Stimulating Hormone. The association with continued soy use and thyroid disorder is well documented. The association with pancreatic disorders is also well established. Add to this that about 85% of the soy produced in the US today is Genetically Modified and you have a clear call to avoid this stuff as a potent health risk. The soy industry would have you believe in the balance beam of scientific credibility, where who has the largest number of studies prevails. The Soy Industry has done much with its checkbook studies to make every negative about soy into a positive but don't be fooled. There is good science and crap. It is clear that soy is crap as is the so called science that promotes it.

 
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:29 AM   #22
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Re: conflicting info - soy products in diet good or bad?

Hmmm, it seems like there's both good and bad to everything. I think I'll go have that California burger.
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:32 AM   #23
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Re: conflicting info - soy products in diet good or bad?

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I have no idea!! But I've heard that soy has phytoestrogens (plant estrogens) that can cause female problems. I have uterine fibroids, which can be caused by estrogen dominance. One source said I should eat soy, which would replace the "bad" estrogen with "good" estrogen. Another source said I should avoid it and use progesterone cream to level out the estrogen. I don't know what to do!!

A lot of people use soy milk to replace cows' milk. It can actually cause just as much mucus build-up as cows' milk and savvy pediatricians will not recommend it for children. It's also heavily processed, just like cows' milk.

Everything I read & hear is SO confusing that my mind is going in circles. I've come to two conclusions: 1. Everything in moderation, and 2. everything organic. There is no silver health bullet.
LOL, Yeah I agree. IT is SO confusing and YESSSs, everyting in moderation. Don't LIVE off of soy AND or cows milk!!!LOL Still eat lots of fruits and veggies, moderate proteins, good whole grains(I think whole wheat, not a lot, is good for the young ones including teens), and drink your MILK!!!lol

 
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